Vardy transfer request rumour

[Ric Flair]

32 minutes ago, OhYesNdidi said:

Morgan is clearly in the team for his leadership as it’s 100% not his ability or performances. 

Hes actually having a decent season, those two sending us off which one was harsh and the other was poor on his part but all in all he's doing ok. 

[cityfanlee23]

8 minutes ago, volpeazzurro said:

If Kopp has been at Liverpool since 2015 before getting to this stage on their journey and Guadiola since 2016, why do Leicester City fans, who's club had some quite serious relegation threatening issues, think any manager can come aboard in 2017 and sort things out in even less time? Big problems at a little club take time to solve and implement a coherent future plan. The next messiah would need at least 18 months and yet another budget for his vision.

Especially considering both of those clubs had more genuine world class players before the coaches arrives, Puel has joined a club that had done amazingly with what we had, but make no mistake we were a club that had lost it's spark and are very one dimensional. We had 1 world class player when Puel came in, and he was throwing a moody whenever he did not get his own way. 

[funkyrobot]

37 minutes ago, cityfanlee23 said:

Especially considering both of those clubs had more genuine world class players before the coaches arrives, Puel has joined a club that had done amazingly with what we had, but make no mistake we were a club that had lost it's spark and are very one dimensional. We had 1 world class player when Puel came in, and he was throwing a moody whenever he did not get his own way. 

I’m a bit confused, surely Trevor Benjamin left the club way before Puel joined us??

[Babylon]

2 hours ago, Ric Flair said:

This isn't any old 32 year old though, he's one of the most extraordinary players we've ever had. I personally find it sickening any fan would dismiss the loss of Vardy of theres a rift being caused. It's this sort of nonchalant attitude that would see us suddenly be faced with relegation and not understand why, everyones frustration with Morgan not being replaced dont understand sometimes the importance of what they bring on and off the field.

 

The magic of what happened, you cant learn or teach and to get rid of it all has to happen at some point but we are so weak mentally amongst this group of new players that I'm genuinely fearful of what's happening with us. The balance isn't right and I dobt trust the methods right now. Vardy is still INTEGRAL to us and ought to be way in to his mid thirties, hes a freak of a player.

Who has is or dismissing Vardy, you've missed the point. The point is if you get rid of Puel and someone else comes in, the chances are you're going to be faced with the same issues. They won't like all the players, players will ends up with their noses out of joint and their long term planning is most probably not going to include a 32 year old striker who has carried niggles for 6 months, and the club have embraced the move to possession football. So the next person, if they have any sense will follow the same format. So all you are going to get is leaks about "this player isn't happy", that player isn't happy. 

[splinterdream]

If he has handed in a TR, then i wouldn't blame him, he doesn't want to play this dreadful football, Puel has to go, he really does.

[Babylon]

2 hours ago, MPH said:

 

 

see above.

And see my comment about him not having to say anything at all. He doesn't need to toe any line, he's hardly a shy and retiring fellow. 

[somebum]

My source says that he has, but club are furiously attempting to aplease him. He's got no time for Claude Dull apparently.

[jammie82uk]

1 hour ago, Leicesterpool said:

Say for example Puel left the club how quickly Vardy's injury would recover? 

what a ridiculous thing to say i think we know enough about the guy to know there is no way Vardy would fake a injury as to not play

[Ric Flair]

16 minutes ago, Babylon said:

Who has is or dismissing Vardy, you've missed the point. The point is if you get rid of Puel and someone else comes in, the chances are you're going to be faced with the same issues. They won't like all the players, players will ends up with their noses out of joint and their long term planning is most probably not going to include a 32 year old striker who has carried niggles for 6 months, and the club have embraced the move to possession football. So the next person, if they have any sense will follow the same format. So all you are going to get is leaks about "this player isn't happy", that player isn't happy. 

Apologies, I misread your post. I thought you were insinuating that the club shouldn't still build their project around Vardy. I'm sure some would say we shouldn't but I still think he's got plenty left in the tank and longevity wise will be here as long as the hotshots who if they are a success here will bugger off anyway. He's still our main man and should be for as long as possible. He is the club.

[1972 Fox]

1 hour ago, volpeazzurro said:

If Kopp has been at Liverpool since 2015 before getting to this stage on their journey and Guadiola since 2016, why do Leicester City fans, who's club had some quite serious relegation threatening issues, think any manager can come aboard in 2017 and sort things out in even less time? Big problems at a little club take time to solve and implement a coherent future plan. The next messiah would need at least 18 months and yet another budget for his vision.

It's been at Anfield as far back as I can remember. 

[Foxxed]

7 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

Apologies, I misread your post. I thought you were insinuating that the club shouldn't still build their project around Vardy. I'm sure some would say we shouldn't but I still think he's got plenty left in the tank and longevity wise will be here as long as the hotshots who if they are a success here will bugger off anyway. He's still our main man and should be for as long as possible. He is the club.

For about another two years definitely but do we start to rebuild then and wait another two years until we're good without him? I'd rather have one legend change his game for the team rather than the team change their game for a legend.

[Dahnsouff]

8 hours ago, UpTheLeagueFox said:

Depends how much you want to believe everything is hunky dory behind the scenes 

This a funny old business for you maybe? You are a journalist and scandal, or a hint of sells, but you are a fan.

Apologies if I am being unfair, just thinking out loud.

[Ric Flair]

4 minutes ago, Foxxed said:

For about another two years definitely but do we start to rebuild then and wait another two years until we're good without him? I'd rather have one legend change his game for the team rather than the team change their game for a legend.

I dont think he does need to adapt his game, we all k how what he is exceptional at so why try and change that when as a team we are still one of the best, if not the best at counter attacks. We just need to have a clear intention with our play to mix up our style from counter attacking, to maintaining possession when we need to. At times we have done this really well, I often think the constant rotation of the team doesn't help anything. 

[Babylon]

18 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

Apologies, I misread your post. I thought you were insinuating that the club shouldn't still build their project around Vardy. I'm sure some would say we shouldn't but I still think he's got plenty left in the tank and longevity wise will be here as long as the hotshots who if they are a success here will bugger off anyway. He's still our main man and should be for as long as possible. He is the club.

I don't think any new manager would walk in and say I'm going to build my team around a player who is 32, when it could take that manager 2, 3, 4 windows to get the squad he wants around said player... he'd be 34 and you've basically ****ed up the long term planning unless there is a carbon copy player out there to replace him with.

 

[nettle]

1 minute ago, Ric Flair said:

I dont think he does need to adapt his game, we all k how what he is exceptional at so why try and change that when as a team we are still one of the best, if not the best at counter attacks. We just need to have a clear intention with our play to mix up our style from counter attacking, to maintaining possession when we need to. At times we have done this really well, I often think the constant rotation of the team doesn't help anything. 

You've got the first sentence spot on, why  try and change Vardy's game at his age the guy bangs in goals for fun in right system. But Claude obviously  knows best so we had better stick with that.

[Babylon]

3 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

I dont think he does need to adapt his game, we all k how what he is exceptional at so why try and change that when as a team we are still one of the best, if not the best at counter attacks. We just need to have a clear intention with our play to mix up our style from counter attacking, to maintaining possession when we need to. At times we have done this really well, I often think the constant rotation of the team doesn't help anything. 

We've scored more counters than anyone else and as many as we did in the title season already this season. That's without Vardy missing a bundle of chances that were counters as well. We still counter when we can. We've not lost that side of the game, we're just not very good at the other part yet, which is picking our way through packed defences. The one outlet we did have for that, we lost in the summer making it even harder. We are desperate for that creative CM and another top class winger. 

[Babylon]

Just now, nettle said:

You've got the first sentence spot on, why  try and change Vardy's game at his age the guy bangs in goals for fun in right system. But Claude obviously  knows best so we had better stick with that.

He scored 20 goals last season and has missed a bucket load this season. He has and still continues to get chance. Could we make more, sure we could, but IMO it's just wrong to suggest hoofing it over the top gets more from him, when the stats all point to that not really being the case. 

[cityfanlee23]

44 minutes ago, somebum said:

My source says that he has, but club are furiously attempting to aplease him. He's got no time for Claude Dull apparently.

He had time for him when signing a new bumper contract 4 months ago didn't he? 

 

Funny that? 

[fox_favourite]

43 minutes ago, somebum said:

My source says that he has, but club are furiously attempting to aplease him. He's got no time for Claude Dull apparently.

So if true...why did he sign a long term contract? Surely if he 'had no time for Claude' then he would want to leave before then or at least tell the club he'll delay his decision till the end of the season? Just curious.

 

I don't know if this is true, but would like you to elaborate on this statement

[Jaspa]

Can't be arissed to go through the whole thread.  Apart from OP's "a few people on twitter said" link, what have we got to base this on?

[st albans fox]

He has had this groin injury for ages and ages ..... flared up at the wc and he didn’t get enough time to rest it .... he probably told the medical people early on in the season that he was fine when he wasn’t ........ hence perhaps Claude is making the calls on how often he plays to try and keep him fit for one game a week 

[La-li-lu-le-lo]

Vardy is our best player, without him we’re literally ****ed. Bin Puel off. If true that is.....

[volpeazzurro]

1 hour ago, somebum said:

My source says that he has, but club are furiously attempting to aplease him. He's got no time for Claude Dull apparently.

So if Puel goes, do we have to run the potential next managers thoughts and tactics past Vardy before we employ him?

 

Vardy has not long signed a new contract so it presumably appears not to mortally bother him that much. There were rumours that he nearly didn't sign if Slimani was kept on, now this revelation? If true it sounds that the problem is starting to lie with Vardy and no player, aged 32 or not is bigger than the club, they are played handsomely to give of their best regardless. Personally I don't think Vardy has ever appeared to have given anything but his best, even when injured and give such rumours a wide birth. 

[Matt]

but but but, i thought all these players signing contracts because of puel....

 

naive, to say the least, rightly or wrongly, money talks.

[Ric Flair]

30 minutes ago, Babylon said:

I don't think any new manager would walk in and say I'm going to build my team around a player who is 32, when it could take that manager 2, 3, 4 windows to get the squad he wants around said player... he'd be 34 and you've basically ****ed up the long term planning unless there is a carbon copy player out there to replace him with.

 

What are Barca doing with Messi, Juve with Ronaldo, Bayern with Lewandowski, what were Roma doing with Totti, or Liverpool with Gerrard, the list goes on. When you've got an exceptional player for your team, you build around them. Whether you need a plan for life after that player or not, you still utilize that rare talent. Before Vardy we didnt have a striker score 20 goals in the top division for about 3 decades (I'm possibly wrong there). We have shown with Mahrez that we dont seem to plan much for life after great players so why do it now with Vardy off the back of a great season from him?

 

I also challenge the recruiters at this club who haven't managed to sign a single successful striker for many years, Ulloa aside and he was up to a point limited. I see no evidence that this is about to change given Puel seems uninterested in getting more options in up top, he stripped out all of our fringe forwards. Iheanacho and Okazaki have about 5 goals in 65 games combined, its diabolical. Vardy is top boy and long may that continue, he could play until he's 38.