Maddison

[La-li-lu-le-lo]

He’s a young lad who shows flashes of brilliance and flashes on inexperience, it’s what is to be expected on all honesty. I’m happy with him so far, and I’m confident he will improve.

[Gwyn]

He has the brain and ability to become one of the top players in the PL but needs a season to adjust from the stark contrast of difference between any other league he's played in.

If he could work on his speed and change of pace in the off season (a'la Chilly) he will be unstoppable. A clear stand out in any league he's played in bar the prem (so far).

[Goober]

Yeah now seems about the right time to go after one of our best players. I’ve noticed  Bert slating him on twitter in an attempt to seem controversial and blow smoke up his own arse and I now see others have followed suit. Nice one FT

[Facecloth]

Ive been neither impressed or disappointed in him. He's been ok, but he's a young player so I'm prepared to let him settle and improve. As with everything, people are starting to be overly critical in response to people being lavishing him with too much praise at the start. He's been neither as good or as bad a both camps are making out, he's just been ok, and that's fine for now. If it's the same this time next year or 18 months time then we're entering Gray territory and we have a problem.

[bfox]

Hes exactly what we need and in my opinion be building the team around. someone who gets the ball and drives forward, has the quality to find the right pass. Not the finished article yet no but thatd cost another 40mil on top

[siraaj_lcfc]

Boy Became Blooming Brilliant

[Bert]

Been saying he’s not all he’s been made out to be for ages but got slated for it. 

 

People don’t have to be up every single players arses 24/7 just because he plays for us. Great talent but loads to improve on. 

[The Doctor]

He infuriates me with how often he'll dummy when there's no support around him and a second defender coming in, then go down. Plays for free kicks too much

[Fosse93]

Iheanacho - confidence looks shot to pieces, fans jeering him at games.

 

Maddison - looks too confident, fan opinion is that he thinks he's better than what he is.

 

Which would you prefer?

 

We should be encouraging the type of 'arrogance' Maddison has, in the right way of course. All the top players have it.

 

He was visibly distraught when he missed that pen at the weekend, with a couple of team mates literally having to pick him up off the floor. 

 

He's confident in his own ability, unlike Iheanacho who looks frightened every time the ball is within 5 yards of him.

 

These lads are 21 years old ffs.

[lgfualol]

2nd top scorer (1 behind Vardy who has scored penalties mainly)

Joint top assister

Creates tons of chances

Trying to be a CAM in a team full of players that cant pass 5 yards.

 

Foxestalk: "He is not as good as he thinks he is"

 

The strength argument always feels like a football dinosaur criticism. 

[Farrington fox]

Just needs to brush up on his pens. He will go on to be an full International, absolutely no doubt!

[Finnegan]

It's pretty appalling that a team that won the league a couple seasons ago has recruited a child from the championship to run our whole game. I mean think about that for a second. Guy is twenty years old, has never played a premiership game and not only do we sign him and tell him he's a starter, he's our starting lone creator. 

 

To that end, we should probably be thankful he's got a bit of an arrogant swagger to him. Iheanacho and Gray could use a bit of his confidence. 

 

We should have signed some genuinely quality to play across that attacking three behind Vardy, to take the weight off Maddison and to give him some experience to learn from. Instead we've just over burdened him.

 

Of course there's areas he can improve, he's a child. His movement off the ball is appalling, I've complained a few times on here about movement and he's one of the worst. Maybe it's by instruction I don't know but he's far too far from the ball most of the time. 

 

It's not JUST his job to find through balls, it's his job to knit the entire attacking phase together. Okazaki seemed so valuable to us over the years because he constantly runs to support the ball carrier, offer a pass and then quickly move it on. Sometimes carry it a few yards but mostly find another attacker then move up the field to do it again. Pass and move. 

 

Watch Bobby Firmino, see how insanely deep he comes to get the ball and get things ticking. Watch the Silvas at City. Same as Shinji, come seek out the ball carrier and get us moving. 

 

The great thing about good movement is it doesn't require any technical ability, just work rate and a brain. Half of us on here with some good cardio could do the moving, that's the easy bit. 

 

But too often he's stood isolated up front holding Vardy's hand waiting for the ball to come to them. He wants to sit in that pocket and be more static like an old Italian 10. It might work with more direct football or with better players behind him but it's a waste for us. 

 

We don't know how much of this is him and how much of it is what he's told to do. 

 

But in either instance it sits with the coaching staff to recognise the problem and coach it out of him, either by accepting our tactical approach is flawed (if that's the case) or that our linchpin needs better direction (if that's the case.)

 

Either way, both Maddison and the team need to improve but he's the 20 year old. It's on the people around him to help him develop. 

[Gwyn]

1 hour ago, Finnegan said:

It's pretty appalling that a team that won the league a couple seasons ago has recruited a child from the championship to run our whole game. I mean think about that for a second. Guy is twenty years old, has never played a premiership game and not only do we sign him and tell him he's a starter, he's our starting lone creator. 

 

To that end, we should probably be thankful he's got a bit of an arrogant swagger to him. Iheanacho and Gray could use a bit of his confidence. 

 

We should have signed some genuinely quality to play across that attacking three behind Vardy, to take the weight off Maddison and to give him some experience to learn from. Instead we've just over burdened him.

 

Of course there's areas he can improve, he's a child. His movement off the ball is appalling, I've complained a few times on here about movement and he's one of the worst. Maybe it's by instruction I don't know but he's far too far from the ball most of the time. 

 

It's not JUST his job to find through balls, it's his job to knit the entire attacking phase together. Okazaki seemed so valuable to us over the years because he constantly runs to support the ball carrier, offer a pass and then quickly move it on. Sometimes carry it a few yards but mostly find another attacker then move up the field to do it again. Pass and move. 

 

Watch Bobby Firmino, see how insanely deep he comes to get the ball and get things ticking. Watch the Silvas at City. Same as Shinji, come seek out the ball carrier and get us moving. 

 

The great thing about good movement is it doesn't require any technical ability, just work rate and a brain. Half of us on here with some good cardio could do the moving, that's the easy bit. 

 

But too often he's stood isolated up front holding Vardy's hand waiting for the ball to come to them. He wants to sit in that pocket and be more static like an old Italian 10. It might work with more direct football or with better players behind him but it's a waste for us. 

 

We don't know how much of this is him and how much of it is what he's told to do. 

 

But in either instance it sits with the coaching staff to recognise the problem and coach it out of him, either by accepting our tactical approach is flawed (if that's the case) or that our linchpin needs better direction (if that's the case.)

 

Either way, both Maddison and the team need to improve but he's the 20 year old. It's on the people around him to help him develop. 

Everyone needs to sit back and realise we are a top 7/10th place side which is amazing considering we have a very mediocre squad . People want us to challenge for Europe, top 6 , f.a cups etc..

The Premier league is the same year after year, barring our one off season. The top 6 vie for supremessy and the mediocre teams try to scrape into Europa contention, while the bottom scrap for their lives.

Mediocre can be quite boring, but we are mediocre in the best league in the world, whilst beating the best teams in the league. Don't you people see??

WE CAN ONLY GET BETTER

 

Stop dreaming of that one season and join the revolution. As other posters have already said this is transition for us and it won't be a smooth ride, but if we keep the squad together for another year or so, whilst adding quality I can really see us leapfrogging spurs to say the least.

In short, it's boring being a mid table side, but at least we won't be crying come the end of the season

[Finnegan]

45 minutes ago, Gwyn said:

Everyone needs to sit back and realise we are a top 7/10th place side which is amazing considering we have a very mediocre squad . People want us to challenge for Europe, top 6 , f.a cups etc..

The Premier league is the same year after year, barring our one off season. The top 6 vie for supremessy and the mediocre teams try to scrape into Europa contention, while the bottom scrap for their lives.

Mediocre can be quite boring, but we are mediocre in the best league in the world, whilst beating the best teams in the league. Don't you people see??

WE CAN ONLY GET BETTER

 

Stop dreaming of that one season and join the revolution. As other posters have already said this is transition for us and it won't be a smooth ride, but if we keep the squad together for another year or so, whilst adding quality I can really see us leapfrogging spurs to say the least.

In short, it's boring being a mid table side, but at least we won't be crying come the end of the season

 

I'm not sure if you meant to quote me but if you did you seemed to wildly miss the point. 

[Kicky1981]

For me, I would play him with Silva. That’s if Silva could fit in anywhere. He’s clever and the only other player with a similar football brain we have is Silva. He would compliment Maddison and allow him to progress further up the pitch and stop him from coming looking for the ball. Problem is Silva is finished here. Maddison is an outstanding talent and is so clever with his use of the ball

[lcfc sheff]

I’ve never been more angry reading a thread than this, the man will probably leave us for more than double what we paid for him and people have the audacity to question his quality? It’s there for us to see he’s our best attacking player. 

 

Gray, Vardy, Ghezzal and Albrighton are the ones who aren’t doing enough or just aren’t good enough! If Maddison was playing for Tottenham he’d be a stand out player, but apparently not as good as some people think aye??

[ian_marshall]

In my view he's a decent player but that's about it. I appreciate he's young and will develop but if you compare him to the top player's in his position he's too slow mentally and needs too many touches on the ball. You can coach him to be more instinctive in his decision making which will improve him, but no amount of coaching is going to improve his intelligence which will ultimately prevent him from becoming one of the best.

[That_Dude]

1 minute ago, lcfc sheff said:

I’ve never been more angry reading a thread than this, the man will probably leave us for more than double what we paid for him and people have the audacity to question his quality? It’s there for us to see he’s our best attacking player. 

 

Gray, Vardy, Ghezzal and Albrighton are the ones who aren’t doing enough or just aren’t good enough! If Maddison was playing for Tottenham he’d be a stand out player, but apparently not as good as some people think aye??

He'd certainly wouldn't walk into Spuds starting XI at the moment but he's in no way as bad as some people make him out to be. He's suffering from the same problem Mahrez had i.e. being the only creative outlet. Add to that his age, the fact that he was playing in lower divisions until now and anyone would understand that there's little chance of seeing the finished product right now.

 

The impatience and need to single out a player from some fans to justify a collective failure is absolute madness.

[lcfc sheff]

Just now, That_Dude said:

He'd certainly wouldn't walk into Spuds starting XI at the moment but he's in no way as bad as some people make him out to be. He's suffering from the same problem Mahrez had i.e. being the only creative outlet. Add to that his age, the fact that he was playing in lower divisions until now and anyone would understand that there's little chance of seeing the finished product right now.

 

The impatience and need to single out a player from some fans to justify a collective failure is absolute madness.

Poch just like Puel has would shown the faith, around better players he’d have more goals / assists aswell as most probable a wider range of plaudits, probably our own fans who would be kicking themselves we hadn’t signed him.

 

 

[That_Dude]

Just now, lcfc sheff said:

Poch just like Puel has would shown the faith, around better players he’d have more goals / assists aswell as most probable a wider range of plaudits, probably our own fans who would be kicking themselves we hadn’t signed him.

 

 

Of course, but Spurs have much more quality than we have and I'm not sure that he'd be a regular starter there. Not this season at least.

 

It doesn't change the fact that he's, imo, a very good signing for us and we still didn't have seen the best of him.

 

[Grebfromgrebland]

As Leicester fans the last thing we want is a player who has self belief and confidence in his abilities.

 

Much better to knock our players confidence so we can moan about them and then blame Rudkin when they don't perform. 

[lcfc sheff]

Just now, That_Dude said:

Of course, but Spurs have much more quality than we have and I'm not sure that he'd be a regular starter there. Not this season at least.

 

It doesn't change the fact that he's, imo, a very good signing for us and we still didn't have seen the best of him.

 

Think they’d rotate a fair bit so perhaps I’ve gone a little OTT but somewhat I hope you see where I’m coming from. 

 

The best from him is yet to come, I fear however we might not see it if we don’t invest in the right attacking players to go with his talents!

[whoareyaaa]

looks like a good player, offers a threat for sure good at finding/creating space for himself, solid on dead ball's (bar penos) still lots to improve on though but will only get better.

 

if he scores that peno we take all 3 points and everything is rosy, maybe no one else wanted the peno so at least he had balls to take it.

[Captain...]

3 hours ago, Finnegan said:

 

But too often he's stood isolated up front holding Vardy's hand waiting for the ball to come to them. He wants to sit in that pocket and be more static like an old Italian 10. It might work with more direct football or with better players behind him but it's a waste for us. 

This is the biggest problem, isolated forwards and static players. I’ve been saying for a while Vardy needs to move more to move defenders create space for Maddison and others, but you’re right Maddison and others need to do that too. I don’t know if it is the coaching but it feels like players won’t move from the designated areas (unless they get a note from Puel). As soon as the chance of a counter breaks down and we try a patient build up we need players to move around.

 

As for the OP, Maddison’s confidence/arrogance one of the most impressive things has been his willingness to take responsibility. Set pieces, shooting from free kicks, penalties, it may sometimes be misplaced but give me a player willing to back himself over someone who doesn’t every day of the week.

 

He has a long way to go, but he is a difference maker and a match winner and they are invaluable to a team like Leicester.

[Nickfosse]

I think Maddison is doing just fine given his age and that it’s his first year in the Premier League where it’s much more difficult for attacking players to thrive. 

What I find baffling is how someone with so much obvious technical footballing talent, especially striking a dead ball from free kicks and corners, can take two such pathetic penalty kicks.