inckley fox Posted 4 February 2019 Posted 4 February 2019 58 minutes ago, Stevosevic said: No. I mean, he has. He kept Carlisle up, kept Southampton up at our expense, did well enough at Hull for us to want to re-appoint him, and for them to get promoted 18 months later with the backbone of the side he assembled. It's not as spectacular as taking a side up two divisions, keeping them in the top flight and leaving them with a side assembled on a shoestring which would win the EPL a year later in the greatest upset in sporting history, I know. But those managerial spells were considered, to varying degrees, to be successful. And we shouldn't talk about his time at Leicester as if it's just a drop in the ocean of Pearson's managerial career, because it accounts for two thirds of it, and over two different tenures, with a largely different set of players at his disposal and a different set of owners in charge. I don't want to defend his failure at Leuven, but let's not get carried away. He's got his merits.
Guy Posted 4 February 2019 Posted 4 February 2019 Just shows you that certain managers tend to be a 'one club fit' only! Pearson has been the perfect fit for us in both his spells here but has failed miserably at Derby and in Belgium since his (very) unjust sacking for non related football reasons in summer 2015. Not sure if we'd have won the Prem. had he stayed though (probably not)….
trabuch Posted 4 February 2019 Posted 4 February 2019 2 minutes ago, Guy said: Just shows you that certain managers tend to be a 'one club fit' only! Pearson has been the perfect fit for us in both his spells here but has failed miserably at Derby and in Belgium since his (very) unjust sacking for non related football reasons in summer 2015. Not sure if we'd have won the Prem. had he stayed though (probably not)…. I'm not party to the details, but Vichai was a legendary chairman and I trusted his judgement on this. And it turned out quite nice.
Guy Posted 4 February 2019 Posted 4 February 2019 4 minutes ago, trabuch said: I'm not party to the details, but Vichai was a legendary chairman and I trusted his judgement on this. And it turned out quite nice. Well that debate will always exist, hence my last part of the post above! - when saying would we have won the Prem had media-unfriendly Pearson stayed and had media-friendly and genius tinkerman Ranieri not been hired when he was at the quintessential time for that one season only? - unlikely but as they say, "we'll never know"! Not wishing to get into any Pearson spell three versus Puel being kept on indefinitely debate here (with £100+million spent in the summer only to be in 11th spot and with a largely diminishing hope off finishing top six-seven now) but stranger things have happened - but perhaps not that strange as re-hiring him for third time! Of course it's common knowledge that Pearson owes his successful time here to Shakespeare and Walsh as his crew too as much as anything else, plus Mandaric bank rolling us with high quality loanees in League One ten years ago to ensure an immediate return to the Championship - then to Pearson and co keeping the momentum going into the next season when we reached the Championship play offs before 'that' failed penalty to eliminate us from the final was struck by cocky Kermogant! SPell two was even more successful under the same regime as before of course - and which undoubtedly lead to our 'one off' fairytale season. I just hope Nige re-finds his life vocation once again re jobs/clubs at wherever that might be as we have loads to thank him for compared to where we were a decade ago!
Stadt Posted 4 February 2019 Posted 4 February 2019 I love the bloke but he’s done as a football manager at a good level. Disastrous spell at Derby and even worse at Leuven. He needs Shakespeare and Walsh alongside him and I’m not sure any Championship clubs can afford the three of them nowadays. We’re his club, he managed us excellently but it was a serendipitous spell - the players, owners and management were all right for it to work out for him, mostly because of his decisions but everyone has a limit eventually. It’s not mutually exclusive but I’ve got more love for him than Ranieri which seems daft but he changed the landscape of the club but he can’t come back now.
Dahnsouff Posted 4 February 2019 Posted 4 February 2019 9 hours ago, fox in notts said: Unfair. Nigel was great for us. Have some respect. Who knows where we would be without him. Yep, he WAS great. Past tense. Move on for Gods Sake.
WigstonWanderer Posted 4 February 2019 Posted 4 February 2019 Sad as this is, it is entirely justified and should have been done earlier to give Leuven a better chance of survival. Wish him well and hope he bounces back, but will probably have to start again at League 1 or 2.
WigstonWanderer Posted 4 February 2019 Posted 4 February 2019 5 hours ago, Guy said: Just shows you that certain managers tend to be a 'one club fit' only! Pearson has been the perfect fit for us in both his spells here but has failed miserably at Derby and in Belgium since his (very) unjust sacking for non related football reasons in summer 2015. Not sure if we'd have won the Prem. had he stayed though (probably not)…. I suspect that if so much as a hair was parted differently on Tom Hoppers bollocks we might not have won the league
ThaiFox Posted 4 February 2019 Posted 4 February 2019 6 hours ago, Guy said: Just shows you that certain managers tend to be a 'one club fit' only! Pearson has been the perfect fit for us in both his spells here but has failed miserably at Derby and in Belgium since his (very) unjust sacking for non related football reasons in summer 2015. Not sure if we'd have won the Prem. had he stayed though (probably not)…. Agree. Slightly off subject, I think Eddie Howe is another who could be perfectly described as a 'one club fit'. After his poor Burnley spell I think Howe moving will be a big risk for both him and the club he joins.
desertfox2 Posted 4 February 2019 Posted 4 February 2019 30 minutes ago, ThaiFox said: Agree. Slightly off subject, I think Eddie Howe is another who could be perfectly described as a 'one club fit'. After his poor Burnley spell I think Howe moving will be a big risk for both him and the club he joins. Job security is about as good as he could get. It would probably take a really special offer for Howe to leave Bournemouth. Leaving to go anywhere else will be a big risk.
Arriba Los Zorros Posted 4 February 2019 Posted 4 February 2019 Obviously gerrimin!!! With CS and SW dream team.
danlcfc4ever Posted 4 February 2019 Posted 4 February 2019 Right at the end of the 100 days of mourning... Watch out Puel!
Guest bss9401 Posted 4 February 2019 Posted 4 February 2019 He needs a low to middling League One club without huge expectations to rebuild his managerial career. Good luck to him but if he reaches too far his managerial career could be over.
ealingfox Posted 4 February 2019 Posted 4 February 2019 Would love to see him get the band back together somewhere. If Puel's still here in a couple of years we can all jump ship to wherever they reform when they take our place in the PL.
norwichfox Posted 4 February 2019 Posted 4 February 2019 13 hours ago, abdul_fox said: Dismantled a bloated, expensive and recently relegated outfit in Hull and built a young and hungry side in only a year and provided a huge platform for Hull's eventual promotion under Bruce. Also factor in that he had to drastically reduce the club's wage bill at the same time. He did a brilliant job at Hull tbf. Yes, all his best work was done when he wasn't at the clubs.....let's keep it that way and let him not be at this club.
Xen Posted 4 February 2019 Posted 4 February 2019 4 minutes ago, bss9401 said: He needs a low to middling League One club without huge expectations to rebuild his managerial career. Good luck to him but if he reaches too far his managerial career could be over. He's a big enough name that it's hard to see him dropping down to that level, yet his stock has fallen too far to warrant anything higher. Puts him in an awkward position. Reckon he'll take some time away from the game again - at least until the summer - then make a decision. He seems a pretty modest bloke so wouldn't surprise me if he took the opportunity to retire rather than seek out another high-pressure job. Either that or a return to a former club like Carlisle/Shrewsbury/Middlesboro etc.
Guy Posted 4 February 2019 Posted 4 February 2019 15 minutes ago, norwichfox said: Yes, all his best work was done when he wasn't at the clubs.....let's keep it that way and let him not be at this club. Well he would hardly be sacked at a club one week then be re-hired at another some time after by the same owner - unless something had been in the pipeline for some time for that to happen! I'd be amazed if Pearson ever appeared here again in any sort of managerial/coaching capacity.
Samilktray Posted 4 February 2019 Posted 4 February 2019 You’d like to think the absolute car crash of a job he’s done in Belgium will stop all those morons who constantly pine for him to come back here, but I doubt it
That_Dude Posted 4 February 2019 Posted 4 February 2019 21 hours ago, Foxes04 said: Anyone else seen that Nige has been sacked by OH Leuven. Shows that Top isn’t afraid of sacking a manager... Your wet dreams won't be fulfilled any time soon.
Arriba Los Zorros Posted 4 February 2019 Posted 4 February 2019 3 hours ago, Samilktray said: You’d like to think the absolute car crash of a job he’s done in Belgium will stop all those morons who constantly pine for him to come back here, but I doubt it No such luck, we want our Nige back
Analysethis Posted 4 February 2019 Posted 4 February 2019 18 hours ago, volpeazzurro said: You seem to have forgotten the bit where he spent the majority of the season weaving his tactical magic to get us into the relegation zone in the first place! The jury is still out on how much influence he had in getting us out of it. After failing badly in his next job after us at Derby nobody appeared to be in a desperate rush to employ him. Leuven was a decent opportunity for him with our owners. Don't think he's covered himself in glory there and is a mere shadow of his former self without his two sidekicks. He didnt cover himself in glory but no one can doubt what he did for us.Its funny how he was at the helm and it was all his fault when we were in the relegation zone but when he managed us to that amazing run to get out of the relegation it somehow isnt down to him?!!
worthosoriginals Posted 4 February 2019 Posted 4 February 2019 1 hour ago, Arriba Los Zorros said: No such luck, we want our Nige back are you an ostrich?
FoxFossil Posted 4 February 2019 Posted 4 February 2019 11 hours ago, desertfox2 said: Job security is about as good as he could get. It would probably take a really special offer for Howe to leave Bournemouth. Leaving to go anywhere else will be a big risk. Hopefully Spurs in the summer then.
Sly Posted 4 February 2019 Posted 4 February 2019 Look at it this way, he’s finished with King Power, so we can finally put the nail in the coffin of him ever coming back here. In any walk of life, you need to adapt your style as the world changes. Managing a mellenial is different to managing a person born in the 80s / 90s. Mourinho went from a genius to a dinosaur in a short space of time. It can happen to anyone. I’ve long suspected that Shakespeare was the person, that the players confided in, turned to when they needed a shoulder. This lead to the bounce when he took over. No tactical noise though. Walsh identified talent through the scouting network he’d assembled. Knows a good player, not so great at sorting contracts and splashing cash to get them.
Lizhang Posted 4 February 2019 Posted 4 February 2019 On 03/02/2019 at 19:10, Beechey said: Well, taking them to joint last place on points is a weird way to show how good you are at football management. On 03/02/2019 at 18:09, Beechey said: They were joint bottom of the league on points though. Nothing "joint" about it, mate. Dead last (again) since this weekend's loss against a direct competitor at home. That was the final nail. On 03/02/2019 at 21:59, fox in notts said: Unfair. Nigel was great for us. Have some respect. Who knows where we would be without him. Well, i know were we (Leuven) would be without him
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.