Leicester 2019/2020 Kits

[HighPeakFox]

I entirely take the point here, but if I refuse to buy a top at cost, but then buy it cheaply later, am I 'literally stealing' too? Or is it just lazy language in order to emphasise the point? 

[Nick]

39 minutes ago, HighPeakFox said:

I entirely take the point here, but if I refuse to buy a top at cost, but then buy it cheaply later, am I 'literally stealing' too? Or is it just lazy language in order to emphasise the point? 

Why would that be stealing?

 

Surely that would be buying it in a sale?

[adejo92]

I buy kits from DH Gate every year, and similar sites, and I stream every match in full HD. 

 

I rest assured that my hard earned money isn't going to pay idiots like Iheanacho. 

 

I'm certainly not the mug here. 

[HighPeakFox]

22 minutes ago, Swan Lesta said:

Why would that be stealing?

 

Surely that would be buying it in a sale?

My point exactly. I was being a pedant about buying a fake kit being 'literally stealing'. Literally stealing is walking in to a shop and... Oh you don't need me to spell it out ?

[Nick]

17 minutes ago, HighPeakFox said:

My point exactly. I was being a pedant about buying a fake kit being 'literally stealing'. Literally stealing is walking in to a shop and... Oh you don't need me to spell it out ?

Sure. 

 

I suppose the the real question we should be asking is ‘Is the act of making or purchasing copies/fake merchandise defrauding the football club or the KP brand and if so does this have wider consequences for the brand, the workers, suppliers and those who purchase these products?

 

I think that despite the notion that one wouldn’t buy an original shirt, supporting the purchase of fake merchandise at best isn’t helpful to both the football club, modern slavery issues and the KP brand and at worst perhaps an element of defrauding the football club and its, sponsors and owners.

 

 

[HighPeakFox]

12 minutes ago, Swan Lesta said:

Sure. 

 

I suppose the the real question we should be asking is ‘Is the act of making or purchasing copies/fake merchandise defrauding the football club or the KP brand and if so does this have wider consequences for the brand, the workers, suppliers and those who purchase these products?

 

I think that despite the notion that one wouldn’t buy an original shirt, supporting the purchase of fake merchandise at best isn’t helpful to both the football club, modern slavery issues and the KP brand and at worst perhaps an element of defrauding the football club and its, sponsors and owners.

 

 

Absolutely agree. 

[HankMarvin]

4 hours ago, AjcW said:

Christ I’m pleased someone finally said it!

 

It’s bad enough supporting poor labour conditions for people that make big brand kits.... can you imagine where this DH Gate crap is made?!?

 

Either buy the real thing or don’t! Or be sensible and keep it for a couple of seasons... no one will judge you! If you’re not able to convince your son/daughter they don’t need a new kit every season then they’re going to cost you a **** of a lot more in the long run than the cost of a real kit  

 

Its a similar situation to those who moan about ticket prices but will happily sink 15 pints before during and after the game at about three times the cost of the ticket....

Probably made in a sweatshop not far from the Adidas sweatshop 

[Jack1993]

20 hours ago, wardyfox86 said:

Emphasis on the word 'most'

 

This I agree with and in an ideal world great. But at the moment the biggest deal all clubs have is Sky TV money (unfortunately)

 

Stealing from your own club. The people that buy the fakes simply won't pay £55 for a top, so the club wouldn't get their hands on that, money either way.

 

I was given the pink top as a gift, but wouldn't personally pay more than £40 for it. I usually buy at the end of season sale.

If you can't afford it then don'y buy it Wardy mate, no need to get grumpy with those that can 

[Manini]

Can’t bring myself to wear fake merch, sorry. I bought a Hugo Boss top from Turkey once, nobody else could tell it was fake, it was a really good copy.....but I knew. Needless to say I binned it. 

 

I know ill get shit here for being a materialistic arsehole, but I like spending my money on branded stuff, I just do, I like the quality of it. I’ve nothing against people who want to buy copied stuff, it’s just not for me personally. 

[Jattdogg]

Just going to get a picture of the new kit printed onto a plain white tee for £5. Lol

[FoxyJim1987]

22 hours ago, dmayne7 said:

 

Often the stuff from DH gate is made at the same factory as the genuine articles. So the workers are getting paid the exact same and you're getting pretty much the same product for a fraction of the price.

 

And when you release a kit every single year, at £55 I don't think it's at all unfair for people to be sourcing them from unofficial outlets.

 

And how much money are we making from kits a year? Let's say 100,000 are sold which is probably massively over the top when you take into account our active fanbase and those who buy kits. Average it at £50 (again probably higher given children's kits will probably sell more) and that's £5m which sounds decent. Take off the fact Adidas will be charging £35 at least to make and distribute it and that's £3.5m knocked off. So we're left with £1.5m on an optimistic estimate. That's probably not even enough to pay weekly wages and is a slither of annual income.

 

You buy a membership for £40 you're already giving the club more profit than 1 shirt and go to one match a season on top of that and you're £70 at least and consider that there is no cost for that seat or membership so pure profit. So massively outdoing the money made from buying a shirt and you still can allow yourself to buy a fake shirt costing the club £15 (which you're not really, that's just their lost profit), still ending up on £55 profit for the club.

 

If you're Man United or Liverpool, yes global merchandise sales can make a huge impact and equally if you're outside the PL, it is an important revenue stream. But, for a club of our size, sitting in the Prem, picking up £100m a year for simply playing, it makes almost no difference. And this is coming from somebody that spent £70 in the club shop the other day.

 

If you're supporting the club actively in another way then so what? Simply buying a membership is giving the club silly money for nothing. It's actually a good bit of commercialist irony. The corporations ripping off the consumer and taking advantage of the workforce are now being cut out, at added benefit to the consumer and no detriment to the workforce.

 

I don't think you can blame people for going down that route. Especially when the Retail side of the club is poor (constantly out of stock of the common sizes and then overstocking uncommon sizes for one)

This is 100 per cent spot on, brilliant post. Clubs like Man utd Liverpool make a fortune because they sell stuff all over the world. A club like ours making 100 mill every year for nothing, shirt sales don't make a huge difference at all. I personally think certain branded stuff is ridiculously overpriced, and football shirts are no different, so if someone wants one for a fraction of the price to look pretty much the same then who cares, especially for kids, or dossing around in. Let's face it, I would rather people buy our shirts and want to support our club, fake or not, than buy Liverpool or arsenal shirts. 

Edited 27 June 2019 by FoxyJim1987

[wardyfox86]

3 hours ago, Jack1993 said:

If you can't afford it then don'y buy it Wardy mate, no need to get grumpy with those that can 

I think you're confusing "can't afford" with "won't pay" 

 

At no point did I get grumpy with anybody paying for the official merch, what they do with their money is nobody's business but their own. But me, personally, I work too hard for that £55 to justify exchanging it for a shirt. I happily buy from the club regularly otherwise. Including membership. 

 

The club should be looking at situations like this and considering the working person's 'biting point' as they are ironically losing out by trying to bump their profits.

 

I'm still walking around with KING POWER emblazoned across my chest at the end of the day, so they're still the winner here

[ozleicester]

Terribly sorry Mr Billionaire

[Jack1993]

50 minutes ago, wardyfox86 said:

I think you're confusing "can't afford" with "won't pay" 

 

At no point did I get grumpy with anybody paying for the official merch, what they do with their money is nobody's business but their own. But me, personally, I work too hard for that £55 to justify exchanging it for a shirt. I happily buy from the club regularly otherwise. Including membership. 

 

The club should be looking at situations like this and considering the working person's 'biting point' as they are ironically losing out by trying to bump their profits.

 

I'm still walking around with KING POWER emblazoned across my chest at the end of the day, so they're still the winner here

You don't have to explain or justify your financial situation to a stranger online pal, some can afford, some can't - absolutely no judgement to either party here  

[AjcW]

On 26/06/2019 at 16:02, HankMarvin said:

Probably made in a sweatshop not far from the Adidas sweatshop 

I mean that was literally the point I made in my first paragraph...  

[LinekersApples]

5 hours ago, Jack1993 said:

You don't have to explain or justify your financial situation to a stranger online pal, some can afford, some can't - absolutely no judgement to either party here  

Spot on. It’s also unfair to talk about such things or flaunt wealth. 

 

I gave both my driver and butler fake shirts last year and neither complained at all.

[wardyfox86]

10 minutes ago, LinekersApples said:

Spot on. It’s also unfair to talk about such things or flaunt wealth. 

 

I gave both my driver and butler fake shirts last year and neither complained at all.

Are your gardener and your personal chef unhappy about that? 

[dorsetboy]

cant be doing with fake shirts , always buy originals from the club and support my home team . 

 

if i cant afford one then i just wear last seasons   and im pleased to say this home shirt i purchased in 1994 is still going strong and looks new so as of yet i still do not need to buy one this season .......happy days .

[SemperEadem]

Would love it if we did a West Ham in that we sold two versions of the shirt, one with the sponsor and one without.

[FoxCal]

14 hours ago, SemperEadem said:

Would love it if we did a West Ham in that we sold two versions of the shirt, one with the sponsor and one without.

West Ham are obliged because of who their sponsor is. All adult shirts come with and all ‘Under 18’ and ‘Junior’ shirts without. It’s the same at Newcastle and anywhere else where the sponsor is a bookmaker.

[RoboFox]

Personally I always buy from the club shop, I wouldn't buy a fake but I understand why people would, especially if they're forking out for STs or tickets every few weeks. 

 

I don't make it to as many games as I would like these days so me buying the shirt pretty much every season is my contribution. 

 

But let's be honest, whether real or fake, stick 'em in the washing machine and they're both going to fall apart.

 

Edited 28 June 2019 by RoboFox

[Sol thewall Bamba]

3 minutes ago, RoboFox said:

But let's be honest, whether real or fake, stick 'em in the washing machine and they're both going to fall apart.

Unless they're 07/08 Jako home shorts, those things are indestructible. 

Edited 28 June 2019 by Sol thewall Bamba

[Guest]

If a person wants to buy a shirt that isn't an official club shirt then good for them. Can't stand those who come on here telling others what they should and shouldn't buy and do as if their shit is purer than anyone elses's. The price the club sells new kits , every year, for is ridiculous and aimed at ripping off the gullible. I really can't remember the last time I bought a new shirt for the season in progress. My last couple of shirts have been bought from the end of year sale. Now , however, as a point of consience I'm going to the DH site to look at what I can buy to stand in arms with my oppressed fellow City supporters who are being harangued by the "pure" City fans.

 

Looking now it seems the shirts are the same colours without the city badge - is that right? Not exactly fake reproductions are they?

[RoboFox]

6 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

Unless they're 07/08 Jako home shorts, those things are indestructible. 

 

That season's kit was probably the only one I washed before I wore it in the hope that the sponsor would peel off. 

 

Topps Tiles. BIN.

[Sol thewall Bamba]

42 minutes ago, RoboFox said:

 

That season's kit was probably the only one I washed before I wore it in the hope that the sponsor would peel off. 

 

Topps Tiles. BIN.

Aside from the sponsor it was alright, it gets way too much stick imo. At least the sponsor was a local company! 

 

Ruined mine though by having MATTOCK 23 on the back