ajthefox Posted 14 July 2019 Share Posted 14 July 2019 Surely we aren't going to spend 5 million more on Dunk than we did on Tielemans. I mean really, could we be that stupid? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nepa fox Posted 14 July 2019 Share Posted 14 July 2019 Its not about market value anymore, thats for sure,its about how much your going to have to fork over to pry a player away from a club. Look at the deal with Harry. Tbh i dont think hes a £75m+ player,but that what hes gunna cost for us to let him go. We will end up over paying for whomever we get. In all likelihood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucey Posted 14 July 2019 Share Posted 14 July 2019 It bothers me if what Ashley said about him being close to Rodgers son is true. If we do get him in that context, it feels like jobs for the boys, 28 y/o Dunk on a dodgy price, just like Congers on a dodgy CV. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzzy_Larsson Posted 14 July 2019 Share Posted 14 July 2019 Dunk is a decent player imo but no more than that imo. £45m for him, even by EPL standards is bonkers imo, smells of them driving up the price as they know your about to get circa £80m for Maguire. A fit Benkovic is already as good a player as Dunk imo and with a year or two of EPL football under his belt will be far better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds Fox Posted 14 July 2019 Share Posted 14 July 2019 30 minutes ago, brucey said: It bothers me if what Ashley said about him being close to Rodgers son is true. If we do get him in that context, it feels like jobs for the boys, 28 y/o Dunk on a dodgy price, just like Congers on a dodgy CV. Rodgers being the manager will hold a lot of influence within the club, but I’m not sure he has £45m worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amfatty Posted 14 July 2019 Share Posted 14 July 2019 Dunk is expensive because Brighton do not want to sell him. He’s on a long contract as he’s extended at least once per season. You are talking about the guy that is about to Ben the captain and has posted consistently good numbers in both his PL seasons - admittedly he has more chances to block in a team like Brighton, still doesn’t take anything away from him £45m is madness, but £80m+ for Maguire is ridiculous also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srbfox Posted 15 July 2019 Share Posted 15 July 2019 I don’t think there is much in it between Dunk and Harry. We will need a CB to fit into the squad quickly who has EPL experience. Brighton know this and the price reflects that. Just like we have to in the Maguire deal, both clubs are having to pay for what they want which is a good thing.... no more bullying by the bigger club in both cases. It still beggars belief why Harry would want to go united at this point in their history. Another good season at us and a top four side surely will go in for him - but then that’s another year into his contract. Dunk had little resell value but that doesn’t bother me as long as he turns out a decent signing. But then didn’t WBA turn down 25m for Evans a couple of January’s back? Dunk might just win the Ballon’dor and Harry might end up shagging Neville’s wife. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 15 July 2019 Share Posted 15 July 2019 I would personally rather we bought a prospect CB and trusted in the 4 1st team CBs we have, but I have yet to own or manage a premier league football team, so my opinion is worthless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sly Posted 15 July 2019 Share Posted 15 July 2019 (edited) Dunk is okay, is he that much better than what we already have though? I’d rather not spunk the balance of the Maguire transfer on him. Edited 15 July 2019 by Sly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozartfox Posted 15 July 2019 Share Posted 15 July 2019 8 minutes ago, Sly said: Dunk is okay, is he that much better than what we already have though? I’d rather not spunk the balance of the Maguire transfer on him. Agree. If this is true, then I personally have serious concerns on the direction we are heading. He is 28 years with no resale value, plus we bought two young CB's last summer, both are Internationals for their respective Countries. Then we gave Wes a contract extension. WTF is going on in recruitment? Why did BR state last October that Benko was ready for the EPL? Surely this Dunk stuff is Red Top paper bollox? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPeakFox Posted 15 July 2019 Share Posted 15 July 2019 2 minutes ago, mozartfox said: Agree. If this is true, then I personally have serious concerns on the direction we are heading. He is 28 years with no resale value, plus we bought two young CB's last summer, both are Internationals for their respective Countries. Then we gave Wes a contract extension. WTF is going on in recruitment? Why did BR state last October that Benko was ready for the EPL? Surely this Dunk stuff is Red Top paper bollox? Panicking much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozartfox Posted 15 July 2019 Share Posted 15 July 2019 Just now, HighPeakFox said: Panicking much? Aren't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 15 July 2019 Share Posted 15 July 2019 The lad is nearly 28, in what world is he worth £45m? If we pay that for him, I honestly want us to pack in it. That's astonishing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPeakFox Posted 15 July 2019 Share Posted 15 July 2019 Just now, mozartfox said: Aren't you? Really, no. It's entirely outside of my control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 15 July 2019 Share Posted 15 July 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, mozartfox said: Agree. If this is true, then I personally have serious concerns on the direction we are heading. He is 28 years with no resale value, plus we bought two young CB's last summer, both are Internationals for their respective Countries. Then we gave Wes a contract extension. WTF is going on in recruitment? Why did BR state last October that Benko was ready for the EPL? Surely this Dunk stuff is Red Top paper bollox? Relax. Some fabulous, tantamount to mind blowing recruitment thus far, with seemingly more to come. CBs, I am not worried, trust the club. If we get Dunk, it will be because he is a good Harry replacement to slot straight in, but if we go with what we have, thats good too, means Brendan has seen enough to say so. Or we get a young un, great, or a prospect, thats great too. Basically, everythings great. Group Hug. Edited 15 July 2019 by Dahnsouff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haywood_6 Posted 15 July 2019 Share Posted 15 July 2019 We don't need him. And at £45 million. We REALLY don't need him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glebe_sydneyfox Posted 15 July 2019 Share Posted 15 July 2019 Whilst I can't fault Dunk for his performances I've seen and he's a decent PL defender - I don't want this signing to happen. £40-45mil is obscene money and we should trust in Benko/Soyuncu developing should Slab Head take the money and run. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozartfox Posted 15 July 2019 Share Posted 15 July 2019 If we do sign him, then hopefully Congerton also has a medical, because if he is behind this, he frigging needs one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 15 July 2019 Share Posted 15 July 2019 We won’t pay more than 25m for this fella if we go for him - there will be add ons which could make it look like a bigger deal but I would guess these would make any seemingly over inflated fee bearable given what we (and dunk) would have achieved to trigger them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indierich06 Posted 15 July 2019 Share Posted 15 July 2019 27 minutes ago, mozartfox said: Agree. If this is true, then I personally have serious concerns on the direction we are heading. He is 28 years with no resale value, plus we bought two young CB's last summer, both are Internationals for their respective Countries. Then we gave Wes a contract extension. WTF is going on in recruitment? Why did BR state last October that Benko was ready for the EPL? Surely this Dunk stuff is Red Top paper bollox? No point holding Rodgers to stuff he said about Benkovic last year when he had no idea he was getting the Leicester job. Of course he's going to big up any loanee that he's got to make it look like good business. Managers do it all the time. His opinion of Benko at Celtic and Leicester might be slightly different. I personally think Dunk will be a sound signing. Shame about the price, but as Man United have found out - if a club don't want to sell, it's pretty hard to buy from them at a price you seem to be acceptable. At 28, if we get four good seasons out of him then this will represent a good deal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozartfox Posted 15 July 2019 Share Posted 15 July 2019 10 minutes ago, indierich06 said: No point holding Rodgers to stuff he said about Benkovic last year when he had no idea he was getting the Leicester job. Of course he's going to big up any loanee that he's got to make it look like good business. Managers do it all the time. His opinion of Benko at Celtic and Leicester might be slightly different. I personally think Dunk will be a sound signing. Shame about the price, but as Man United have found out - if a club don't want to sell, it's pretty hard to buy from them at a price you seem to be acceptable. At 28, if we get four good seasons out of him then this will represent a good deal. Regarding your first comment, would such a glowing report not be an open invitation for the owning Club to press the 'recall' button in January? Plus Celtic were 'apparently' looking to keep him. You would think he would have played his ability down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Posted 15 July 2019 Share Posted 15 July 2019 Is there a stats guru out there who can do some comparative work on Dunk and Maguire please? I’d be interested to know why he’s allegedly our first target as a proven Prem CB. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monsell1976 Posted 15 July 2019 Share Posted 15 July 2019 We have plenty of cover at centre half with Evans and Morgan with experience, but give the Turk and benky a chance along side Evans, we have already spent a fortune on these two, why not run with them, 4 centre half’s is enough 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucey Posted 15 July 2019 Share Posted 15 July 2019 34 minutes ago, st albans fox said: We won’t pay more than 25m for this fella if we go for him - there will be add ons which could make it look like a bigger deal but I would guess these would make any seemingly over inflated fee bearable given what we (and dunk) would have achieved to trigger them Why would a mid table team sell their best CB for 25m? Whether or not there's add ons involved... whatever price they would accept for him would be more than we should pay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucey Posted 15 July 2019 Share Posted 15 July 2019 11 minutes ago, mozartfox said: Regarding your first comment, would such a glowing report not be an open invitation for the owning Club to press the 'recall' button in January? Plus Celtic were 'apparently' looking to keep him. You would think he would have played his ability down. Man management to encourage a kid plagued with injury? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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