Kevin Russell Posted 1 August 2021 Share Posted 1 August 2021 23 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said: Would love to see him upgraded, but if he remains as a near starter, I for one will back him and relish the childish dummy spitting at every game he starts. I don’t think it’s ‘childish dummy spitting’ or ‘scapegoating’ when people express frustration that Perez gets a lot of opportunities despite making very little by way of positive contributions? I think it’s just rational feedback based on what fans are seeing? Most fans think there are preferable options in the squad and find it frustrating when Perez is selected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 1 August 2021 Share Posted 1 August 2021 1 minute ago, Kevin Russell said: I don’t think it’s ‘childish dummy spitting’ or ‘scapegoating’ when people express frustration that Perez gets a lot of opportunities despite making very little by way of positive contributions? I think it’s just rational feedback based on what fans are seeing? Most fans think there are preferable options in the squad and find it frustrating when Perez is selected. Critics need to also balance their views with admission of positives and not just the negatives, else it is just sh*t slinging. The usual way to dodge this is to say ‘well he did nothing good else iI would have’, but he DID a few little good things, mainly as usual to pressing and winning the ball back at the higher end of the pitch. However, he plays high up the pitch so for some bizarre reason, people only accept goals or assists as valid output. And no, I don’t count ‘He’s sh*t’ as rational feedback 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An Sionnach Posted 1 August 2021 Share Posted 1 August 2021 7 minutes ago, Kevin Russell said: I don’t think it’s ‘childish dummy spitting’ or ‘scapegoating’ when people express frustration that Perez gets a lot of opportunities despite making very little by way of positive contributions? I think it’s just rational feedback based on what fans are seeing? Most fans think there are preferable options in the squad and find it frustrating when Perez is selected. Perez is way off form, Rodgers still picks him, who's to blame? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 1 August 2021 Share Posted 1 August 2021 1 minute ago, An Sionnach said: Perez is way off form, Rodgers still picks him, who's to blame? Who should we play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An Sionnach Posted 1 August 2021 Share Posted 1 August 2021 Just now, Dahnsouff said: Who should we play? Just play Iheanacho on the right. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGLCFC Posted 1 August 2021 Share Posted 1 August 2021 Just now, An Sionnach said: Perez is way off form, Rodgers still picks him, who's to blame? I agree to a certain extent, but pre season is about getting up to speed and Perez is two games behind most, so unless he gets game time he is unlikely to hit any kind of form or fitness (I know there will be those that think he'll never be to the required standard) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Russell Posted 1 August 2021 Share Posted 1 August 2021 4 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said: Critics need to also balance their views with admission of positives and not just the negatives, else it is just sh*t slinging. The usual way to dodge this is to say ‘well he did nothing good else iI would have’, but he DID a few little good things, mainly as usual to pressing and winning the ball back at the higher end of the pitch. However, he plays high up the pitch so for some bizarre reason, people only accept goals or assists as valid output. And no, I don’t count ‘He’s sh*t’ as rational feedback He works pretty hard, but regardless of goals/assists he doesn’t really beat players or play many incisive passes - I’m sorry, but winning the ball now and again is no way near enough in the context of this current squad. It’s very difficult to pick positives from many of his games. There are some people who are overly harsh in the criticism, but most people express natural and entirely rational frustration that a player who regularly plays poorly gets so many minutes.Surely that I’d just blindingly obvious???? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 1 August 2021 Share Posted 1 August 2021 Just now, Kevin Russell said: He works pretty hard, but regardless of goals/assists he doesn’t really beat players or play many incisive passes - I’m sorry, but winning the ball now and again is no way near enough in the context of this current squad. It’s very difficult to pick positives from many of his games. There are some people who are overly harsh in the criticism, but most people express natural and entirely rational frustration that a player who regularly plays poorly gets so many minutes.Surely that I’d just blindingly obvious???? Reasoned, fair enough, but fully expect him to be around the first XI next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wasyls Pec Deck Posted 1 August 2021 Share Posted 1 August 2021 4 minutes ago, MGLCFC said: I agree to a certain extent, but pre season is about getting up to speed and Perez is two games behind most, so unless he gets game time he is unlikely to hit any kind of form or fitness (I know there will be those that think he'll never be to the required standard) Is that his excuse for the last 2-3 years? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kevin Russell Posted 1 August 2021 Popular Post Share Posted 1 August 2021 4 minutes ago, An Sionnach said: Just play Iheanacho on the right. Iheanacho, Albrighton, Praet when he was fit. One of the l young lads - so many options. Kel basically transformed our season last year, but he often gets dropped/hooked after playing badly for 60 mins. Perez can have 10 poor games on the bounce and still get picked. It baffles me, it really does. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGLCFC Posted 1 August 2021 Share Posted 1 August 2021 Just now, Wasyls Pec Deck said: Is that his excuse for the last 2-3 years? I did say there will be those who think he's not up to the required standard. I'm just pointing out why he is being given game time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Russell Posted 1 August 2021 Share Posted 1 August 2021 Just now, Dahnsouff said: Reasoned, fair enough, but fully expect him to be around the first XI next season. I agree - I hope his performances improve - especially as he puts a shift in. I’ll be the first on here to admit I was wrong if he puts a decent run of form together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmono84 Posted 1 August 2021 Share Posted 1 August 2021 This guy must tear it up in training! I really hope we see less of Perez, like lost I’ve lost my patience with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wasyls Pec Deck Posted 1 August 2021 Share Posted 1 August 2021 Even at Newcastle he was in and out of form, and I think the only indication of transferability there was that he could be a decent squad player elsewhere. His best return for Newcastle was 12 goals as their main man in 18-19. Prior to that it was 6, 7, 8 goals… Low and behold it comes as no surprise that he comes to a better club and he looks poor when persisted with. I’d love to know why we threw £30m or whatever it was to activate his release clause. Maybe I have forgotten, but I don’t remember anyone else being linked with him at the time - which was strange given his known quantity. Perhaps that is also telling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeskeyForever Posted 1 August 2021 Share Posted 1 August 2021 Amidst all of the quality signings that we have made over the past couple of years, Perez is without a doubt the standout flop. I actually think the signs were right to buy him - perhaps not for the amount that we paid, but a young attacker who clearly worked hard at the top of the pitch and chipped in with important goals was exactly what we were looking for. Sadly, he almost seems to have regressed with us, or not noticeably improved in any area of his game. Not looking too much into yesterday's woeful showing as it was his first game back after last season, however if he continues in the same fashion as he did last season, it would be bizarre to see him start as often as he did in the Premier League. Personally I would much rather Ricky or Albrighton play there if we fail to sign someone else at RW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turkish14 Posted 1 August 2021 Share Posted 1 August 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Kevin Russell said: I don’t think it’s ‘childish dummy spitting’ or ‘scapegoating’ when people express frustration that Perez gets a lot of opportunities despite making very little by way of positive contributions? I think it’s just rational feedback based on what fans are seeing? Most fans think there are preferable options in the squad and find it frustrating when Perez is selected. So the issue is with Brendan for selecting him, or top for not giving us more to spend on a winger? I agree Perez not good enough, but how is Perez to blame for not being good enough just to add I’m not complaining to Brendan or Top. just saying if a player isn’t good enough but still gets picked, should he be blamed or does the finger pointing go elsewhere. Edited 1 August 2021 by turkish14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corky Posted 1 August 2021 Share Posted 1 August 2021 The transfer fee has gone, we need to look at the player we've had for two years. He doesn't fit in with the style we want to play. Just carelessly gives the ball away and is quite slow in the game really. The returns haven't been impressive either. I get the reasoning for yesterday being his first match of pre-season and rustiness but let's be honest, it wasn't anything we hadn't seen before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 1 August 2021 Share Posted 1 August 2021 Unless we get a loan RW, looks like we are stuck with him, or we are playing a forward there, but pre-season suggests not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An Sionnach Posted 1 August 2021 Share Posted 1 August 2021 5 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said: Unless we get a loan RW, looks like we are stuck with him, or we are playing a forward there, but pre-season suggests not On and on we go, about the RW position but if we go 4-3-3 we may as well play Kelechi on the right . Barnes, Vardy , Iheanacho is probably the line up the opposition would least like to see. All of them proven goalscorers. Kel has a formidable left foot and a great first touch . Daka looks as though he could fill any of those front three positions , that all looks fine to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sol thewall Bamba Posted 1 August 2021 Share Posted 1 August 2021 23 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said: Unless we get a loan RW, looks like we are stuck with him, or we are playing a forward there, but pre-season suggests not I honestly believe any of our current squad would return better numbers than Perez did last year playing in the positions he did last season. 3 goal contributions all season is pathetic, Timmy had twice that playing full back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 1 August 2021 Share Posted 1 August 2021 2 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said: I honestly believe any of our current squad would return better numbers than Perez did last year playing in the positions he did last season. 3 goal contributions all season is pathetic, Timmy had twice that playing full back. Maybe that’s because you misunderstand Perez’s role? Along with everyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyN11 Posted 1 August 2021 Share Posted 1 August 2021 I may be on my own here but I thought Perez looked pretty good yesterday 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sol thewall Bamba Posted 1 August 2021 Share Posted 1 August 2021 13 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said: Maybe that’s because you misunderstand Perez’s role? Along with everyone else. I think the problem is he misunderstands his own role 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weller54 Posted 1 August 2021 Share Posted 1 August 2021 3 hours ago, Dahnsouff said: Who should we play? Praet perhaps? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpe's Fox Posted 1 August 2021 Share Posted 1 August 2021 I never liked this signing and had to convince people he was pants. Feels good to be right. Again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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