FantasticMrFox&Son Posted 18 February 2020 Posted 18 February 2020 What do you think ? £80,000 a year enough for them, or do you think they are "supplementing" their wages ? Given what FIFA and UEFA officials have been doing AND the money earned by agents and players, do you believe that ref's are happy to earn a crust when everyone else is dining in style? Thread merged or hidden ??
Fightforever Posted 18 February 2020 Posted 18 February 2020 I think they have tommorows headline in mind when they make decisions(clattenburg admitted to this when it came to the Chelsea vs Spurs game that won us the title) but I dont think they're courppt personally. Too much negative pr for any club or entitiy that attempts that.
TheLittleBigMan Posted 18 February 2020 Posted 18 February 2020 There are global match fixing syndicates at play across most sports. I doubt it happens top end as much, if at all, more lower leagues with less risk at getting caught. Yes match officials are a part of this. Personally I trust the prem officials not to be partaking in such skull duggery.
Dan Posted 18 February 2020 Posted 18 February 2020 Not convinced sadly. That earlier was just inexplicable and it's not the first time this season.
Nalis Posted 18 February 2020 Posted 18 February 2020 Anyone who has watched the first episode of the new Inside No 9 series will have the answer.
Chrysalis Posted 18 February 2020 Posted 18 February 2020 For some people whatever money they have is never enough. There is billionaires who still actively try to save every penny and avoid tax, so yes someone earning 80k can easily have their head turned. I think the one oddity here is that clattenburg mysteriously quit the EPL mid season. That was a very bizarre thing. If I was the FA and found one of my refs to be corrupt, to minimise the bad press, I would make the referee quit, which is what he did. There is also the fact that probably at least half of the football fans in this country are supporting either man utd, liverpool or arsenal, meaning that if a ref isnt born in those locations there is still a moderate chance they have a liking to one of those clubs and that could potentially sway decisions made. We cant have the game ref'd only by robots though so we stick to what we have, but the goal line technology is clearly a step in the right direction.
Mike Oxlong Posted 18 February 2020 Posted 18 February 2020 Not if they’ve sat on the toilet seat after Savage
st albans fox Posted 18 February 2020 Posted 18 February 2020 3 hours ago, Nalis said: Anyone who has watched the first episode of the new Inside No 9 series will have the answer. was brilliant ......
Lesta2014 Posted 18 February 2020 Posted 18 February 2020 3 hours ago, Nalis said: Anyone who has watched the first episode of the new Inside No 9 series will have the answer. You stole my response on a serious note 80k is a very tidy wage, they also get travel etc to the games paid for so their expenditure for work is limited! In the lower leagues you get a 22000 retainer and then a decent match fee every game! They are well looked after/backed by the FA, they’ve no need to cheat/be corrupt! Although I do question some of the woeful decisions!!
Scotch Posted 18 February 2020 Posted 18 February 2020 I have no doubt that it goes on but in top level english football? I just don't see it. I sometimes think the exact opposite. Sometimes I dont think fans consider that almost all referees do their job for ( a decent wages, yes but) a genuine love for the game. They love football just as much as we do, no chance would they do that job if they didn't.
st albans fox Posted 18 February 2020 Posted 18 February 2020 If they aren’t then the game is dead .......... we put our faith in the authorities that they make sure that refs are clean ...... I believe that they are but the betting industry allowing stuff that is irrelevant to the game to be bet on isnt helping to keep it that way ...... slippery slope ......
coolhandfox Posted 18 February 2020 Posted 18 February 2020 Having referred a few games it surprising what you see differently to other people.
Bossman Blessed It Posted 18 February 2020 Posted 18 February 2020 Trying to contemplate with human error alongside potential bias is in my book, something that's actually enjoyable especially when going to watch Leicester play live. The rawness of the emotion that transpires, for instance, when Jon Moss sent Vardy off against West Ham was in hindsight, a moment that unearthed a level of passion I didn't even realise I had for the game. Nonetheless, with the introduction of VAR and essentially less scope for referees to make mistakes, I don't believe that the aforementioned are worries at this point in time.
davieG Posted 18 February 2020 Posted 18 February 2020 Well history tells us it's not entirely unknown. But people make mistakes, have bad days and see things differently to others from different perspectives so there's bound to be a lot of differences of opinion. Then of course we all have our own biases.
ealingfox Posted 18 February 2020 Posted 18 February 2020 Corruption is endemic in every other industry in the world where anything like the sort of money in football is involved. It is naive to say the least to believe that there is no corruption in football. Exactly how far it goes is the question. Consider that a former PL referee openly admitted to fixing the outcome of a match of his own accord last year - nobody batted an eyelid and there were no ramifications.
Legend_in_blue Posted 18 February 2020 Posted 18 February 2020 They can't make consistently correct decisions when each of them takes turns in the Stockton Park chair. If they're not prepared to even review decisions on the pitch using the screens, how can they be expected to review incidents properly in Stockton Park? It's a great piece of technology but it's implementation has been executed very poorly. Hence, it's open to corruption, the very thing we all thought it would take away.
Ollie93 Posted 18 February 2020 Posted 18 February 2020 28 minutes ago, Legend_in_blue said: They can't make consistently correct decisions when each of them takes turns in the Stockton Park chair. If they're not prepared to even review decisions on the pitch using the screens, how can they be expected to review incidents properly in Stockton Park? It's a great piece of technology but it's implementation has been executed very poorly. Hence, it's open to corruption, the very thing we all thought it would take away. I still don't understand why they don't use the screens, it baffles me.
Foxxed Posted 18 February 2020 Posted 18 February 2020 The wage should be enough for most. But greed exists in the most comfortable when they run side-by-side with players earning a ref’s yearly wage in a month.
Rusko187 Posted 18 February 2020 Posted 18 February 2020 No, I genuinely think they are just incredibly bad!
Big Dave Posted 18 February 2020 Posted 18 February 2020 No, I don’t think that the vast majority of match officials are corrupt. I just think that many of them are not as good at their jobs as they need to be, and not all can handle some of the high pressure environments that they need to work in.
Guest Markyblue Posted 18 February 2020 Posted 18 February 2020 They are human beings making decisions, and as humans those decisions are influenced by personal feelings and moods. Lets put it this way if I'm a referee and forest have a shout for a penalty..well then its obviously not a penalty. But personal feelings apart i believe the vast majority are not bent but just not very good.
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