Daggers Posted 29 February 2020 Posted 29 February 2020 9 hours ago, Ceirboy said: Squeaky bum time for him I’m aftraid. Great thread, would read again. 7.9/10
Tuna Posted 29 February 2020 Posted 29 February 2020 3 minutes ago, jayfox26 said: Mods can we ban people who cant spell Brendan Rodgers. Not trying to be the spelling police but if you cant spell the managers name of the club you support then questions need to be asked! Saw the spelling when the thread first popped up but couldn't be arsed to say anything, it's so frequent an occurrence.
volpeazzurro Posted 29 February 2020 Posted 29 February 2020 If Puel was our current manager this forum would be raging and calling for his head. But ... because Rodgers is a media friendly, media loved individual with the blarney of a conman he's excused, there no consistency. If Ranieri, according to some on the forum, was supposed to have leapt on Pearson's bandwagon then the same could apply here in regards to Puel and Rodgers. I'm not a 'get rid of Rodgers' individual but neither do I find myself convinced by him or think he's got a great managerial record, he's very flawed and I'm certainly worried about him and Congerton having much of a say in transfer targets as currently we appear to be doing things really well with the odd exception whereas Rodgers success in this area is doubtful to say the least. Is there currently really much difference between the tippy tappy styles of Puel and Rodgers even though Rodgers has arguably got a better squad of players to pick from? Time for his actions and managerial skills to match his mouth. We'll just have to see.
ithuriel Posted 29 February 2020 Posted 29 February 2020 If we were to slide out of the European places I think the fans down the stadium will turn on him, some of his subs recently have been a bit baffling to be honest.
BigGibbo Posted 29 February 2020 Posted 29 February 2020 26 minutes ago, volpeazzurro said: If Puel was our current manager this forum would be raging and calling for his head. But ... because Rodgers is a media friendly, media loved individual with the blarney of a conman he's excused, there no consistency. If Ranieri, according to some on the forum, was supposed to have leapt on Pearson's bandwagon then the same could apply here in regards to Puel and Rodgers. I'm not a 'get rid of Rodgers' individual but neither do I find myself convinced by him or think he's got a great managerial record, he's very flawed and I'm certainly worried about him and Congerton having much of a say in transfer targets as currently we appear to be doing things really well with the odd exception whereas Rodgers success in this area is doubtful to say the least. Is there currently really much difference between the tippy tappy styles of Puel and Rodgers even though Rodgers has arguably got a better squad of players to pick from? Time for his actions and managerial skills to match his mouth. We'll just have to see.
shade Posted 29 February 2020 Posted 29 February 2020 31 minutes ago, volpeazzurro said: If Puel was our current manager this forum would be raging and calling for his head. But ... because Rodgers is a media friendly, media loved individual with the blarney of a conman he's excused, there no consistency. If Ranieri, according to some on the forum, was supposed to have leapt on Pearson's bandwagon then the same could apply here in regards to Puel and Rodgers. I'm not a 'get rid of Rodgers' individual but neither do I find myself convinced by him or think he's got a great managerial record, he's very flawed and I'm certainly worried about him and Congerton having much of a say in transfer targets as currently we appear to be doing things really well with the odd exception whereas Rodgers success in this area is doubtful to say the least. Is there currently really much difference between the tippy tappy styles of Puel and Rodgers even though Rodgers has arguably got a better squad of players to pick from? Time for his actions and managerial skills to match his mouth. We'll just have to see. if puel had us third in the league i'm pretty sure people wouldn't have been calling for his head, well, I suppose there are always a few complete brainlets, trolls and opposition fans on here.
foxile5 Posted 29 February 2020 Posted 29 February 2020 My concern is that I don't think he's got a bollocking in him. Some of these players need to be told that they're performing way below expectations and that's not okay. I don't know if Rodgers is the manager to do that.
TheF1Bob Posted 29 February 2020 Posted 29 February 2020 LMAO Brendon Rodgers is the best thing what's happened to this club since Ranieri. I mean who else could of taken these lot to where they are now? I tell you... NO ONE. Everyone needs tho shut up and behave.
Marshall Cockney Fox Posted 29 February 2020 Posted 29 February 2020 He got Puel's squad playing well. Now he needs to show that he can motivate and reinvigorate the same lads on a slump. Stand up Brendan
red5 Posted 29 February 2020 Posted 29 February 2020 Said in his interview after the game that he doesn't know the handball rule, How can a premier league team manager not know the rules of the game, instant sacking.
StanSP Posted 29 February 2020 Posted 29 February 2020 2 minutes ago, red5 said: Said in his interview after the game that he doesn't know the handball rule, How can a premier league team manager not know the rules of the game, instant sacking. The referees don't know it either. Sack them too.
BigGibbo Posted 29 February 2020 Posted 29 February 2020 Just now, StanSP said: The referees don't know it either. Sack them too. And the players certainly dont know. In the bin one and all.
mozartfox Posted 29 February 2020 Posted 29 February 2020 Only had the nerve to log on to FT just now. Wish I hadn’t bothered. if you have supported this team as long as I have (50 years) perhaps your sense of perspective is more rationale. We will finish top 4. Just get behind the Team and Manager ffs.
volpeazzurro Posted 29 February 2020 Posted 29 February 2020 1 hour ago, shade said: if puel had us third in the league i'm pretty sure people wouldn't have been calling for his head, well, I suppose there are always a few complete brainlets, trolls and opposition fans on here. He did however take over a club in complete turmoil with a mismatched ill bought bunch of players. Rodgers had none of that and has better players. The current league position is of course brilliant but the 12 points in 12 games extremely poor for the quality of players he has at his disposal. Had it not been for early season form when such players were completely energised by his motivational skills I wonder where in the table we'd be? Motivation is a great and vital asset but if not matched with tactical nous, success can be short lived.
volpeazzurro Posted 29 February 2020 Posted 29 February 2020 1 hour ago, shade said: if puel had us third in the league i'm pretty sure people wouldn't have been calling for his head, well, I suppose there are always a few complete brainlets, trolls and opposition fans on here. There were people calling for his head before he'd even started the job in fairness such was the bias.
red5 Posted 29 February 2020 Posted 29 February 2020 15 minutes ago, StanSP said: The referees don't know it either. Sack them too. I disagree, the refs know the rules perfectly.
red5 Posted 29 February 2020 Posted 29 February 2020 15 minutes ago, BigGibbo said: And the players certainly dont know. In the bin one and all. It's clear Iheanacho doesn't else he wouldn't have had a shot at goal knowing the ball hit his hand.
BigGibbo Posted 29 February 2020 Posted 29 February 2020 17 minutes ago, red5 said: It's clear Iheanacho doesn't else he wouldn't have had a shot at goal knowing the ball hit his hand. It barely tickled his hand after bouncing off their defenders shoulder inches away so he probably didn't even feel it. Imagine the reaction if he had stopped and walked away knowing it had sniffed his hand. Would have highlighted how farcical the law is though I suppose 👍
mozartfox Posted 29 February 2020 Posted 29 February 2020 I am watching the Myanmar coverage of the EPL and Tim Sherwood is their expert pundit😱
Brainy Posted 29 February 2020 Posted 29 February 2020 1 hour ago, red5 said: Said in his interview after the game that he doesn't know the handball rule, How can a premier league team manager not know the rules of the game, instant sacking. I'm not sure many Leicester fans know the handball rule after the last six weeks tbh
Ric Flair Posted 29 February 2020 Posted 29 February 2020 7 hours ago, m4DD0gg said: This has got shades of Peter Taylor written all over it, positive start to the season but frailties shining through. Wouldnt surprise me if there are murmurs in the dressing room because it appears as though some of the 'star' players just aint playing for him. 1) A team that passes backwards more than it does forwards. 2) One up front against the team who are rock bottom of the league and had not scored from open play in 700 minutes. 3) No Plan B even though its clear we were sussed out nearly 3 months ago. 4) Absolutely unprofessional and a clear lack of judgement to not strengthen in January, it was obvious there were problems then. Could be argued the owners need to take some responsibility on that one. Hahahahaa we were playing abysmal football under Taylor, it was quite evident it was only a matter of time. Plus the team was falling to pieces. This is very different but not saying it's not a big concern!
Guest An Sionnach Posted 29 February 2020 Posted 29 February 2020 He really needs a hatchet man as assistant manager . He has never struck me as an authority figure , small in stature and with no CV as a player , in fact even less than Puel had . If he had someone like Pearson, who was indeed respected, even maybe feared by the players to lay down the law , he could concentrate on the tactics.
dylanlegend Posted 29 February 2020 Posted 29 February 2020 Why do we expect him to do? The bashing by Liverpool drained a few players confidence / arrogance, we need to try and get that back ASAP Also Vardy doesn’t seem the same player since his injury. When Vardys not firing we don’t win
inckley fox Posted 29 February 2020 Posted 29 February 2020 He deserves serious praise for what he achieved at the end of last and the first half of this season. However, I'm wary of managers doing well with inherited players and then running into a bit of trouble which they struggle to navigate their way out of. We've seen bosses arrive, tweak things, address prior shortcomings, but then create their own. It's especially a phenomenon with the 'impact' manager who overhauls coaching, changes the system, puts smiles on faces, but struggles to sustain success. There are extreme cases like Taylor (who was 4th in March, of course) and then less glaring examples like Pleat, Sven, Shakespeare. Of course, their 'successful spells' weren't as successful as Rodgers'. And his wasn't as great as that of Ranieri, who we could also plonk in that category. But worryingly, his signings haven't had a great impact and we're playing a brand of football which hinges on having the right sort of quality to play it, and players whose work ethic and fitness is good enough to press tirelessly. As we've pressed less and less, moved the ball more slowly and conservatively, failed increasingly to vary our build-up or try new ideas, I think sides have come to see us as quite an easy team to set up against, and Rodgers' is way off identifying the root causes of this. It's all very well saying he can be excused because of a lack of squad depth, but we've actually benefited from quite a few fringe players. Fuchs, Mendy, Choudhury, Iheanacho have all had positive contributions at times, and we know what Albrighton can do. There's been promise from Justin too. Part of the malaise is down to niggling injuries for Vardy and Ndidi, perhaps our two most important individuals, but Rodgers himself has questions to answer over how he's managed those players. Vardy had played a huge amount of football for a guy who was nearly 33 and appeared to have an in-form deputy. Both he and Ndidi were also hurried back, as was the case with Benkovic when Rodgers had him up in Scotland. But yesterday highlighted, for me, that Rodgers may have a blind spot when it comes to the balance of the side. The line-up contained too many easy-on-the-eye but fundamentally lightweight players. If you go with both Maddison and Perez, sides will win too many of those crucial battles. Then there were the subs. As in many games of late, we lacked the pace to be seriously effective on the counter, but the options to remedy this - either bringing Justin on and pushing Ricardo into an attacking role, or bringing Gray in - were entirely overlooked. In fact, taking Choudhury, Praet and Perez out and bringing in both Youri and Marc didn't exactly help. In addition to that, the key poor performers weren't addressed. Perez should never have lasted 77 minutes. Chilwell (and, arguably, Maddison) weren't replaced. Hamza wasn't great, but I never felt he was a major reason for our poorness. All in all, Leicester have fallen into the trap of being a pretty, lightweight, increasingly slow, over-elaborate and quite one-dimensional side which is easy to nick the ball off with the slightest of pressing, and easy to bypass with directness. If - as I suspect will happen - we fall out of the CL placings, or even worse, the verdict on Rodgers will have to be delayed until we see what he does to the squad in the summer (something we have little cause to be positive about, given his and Congerton's track record) and whether we come back brighter, with fresh ideas, for next season. And those fresh ideas are critical. If Rodgers is as rigid in his preferred style of play as he professes to be then it won't end nicely. Of course, there's plenty of time for him to turn this around. And on balance we can't lay into him too much. But the concern is wholly justified.
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