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Interest in Football after this crisis ends....

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6 hours ago, ScouseFox said:

not sure you're doing football right if you think it "contributes fu ck all", tbh. 

You misunderstand. It entertains me and I LOVE it.

 

But In terms of actually giving something important to society, in terms of contributing something valuable - well, it doesn't. The NHS does. Schools do. Police do. 

 

I hope that twats like Grealish might get a bit of perspective. They're paid handsomely to do a job that, if it were to stop altogether, wouldn't be missed. We couldn't put the NHS on hold. 

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7 hours ago, Preston Fox said:

For me, the silence from all premier league players re their salaries is deafening. To me it’s morally wrong that the players are picking up all of their huge salaries yet some clubs are furloughing their staff. If players took a 50% pay cut (and they would still be VERY well paid), then this would make a huge difference. I really hope this happens but not sure that it will. I love football and this club but now is the time to realise that the obscene salaries have to stop-especially when we have fantastic NHS staff earning less than 1/2 a per-cent of the average premier league player. 

Totally agree with this. I really hope our players take a lead and all first team squad players offer up 50% of their pay until football starts again

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I think for a lot of people, football represents escapism and is therefore important for mental health. For those that go to games or watch games at pubs, it gives people an excuse to go out, socialise, etc.. 

 

I've realised that a lot of the work conversation revolves around sport and you bond with others over your common interests. The last few weeks has thought me how difficult it is to actually engage in conversation for a prolonged period of time when there is little work nor sport. The pandemic seems to be the only thing discussed 24/7 and there is very little escape from it. 

 

I also think having the football back will be a sign that everything is getting back to normal and the economy and society are adapting to the pandemic and are starting to beat it. Therefore, it will be a signal of the good times being back. 

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28 minutes ago, shailen said:

I think for a lot of people, football represents escapism and is therefore important for mental health. For those that go to games or watch games at pubs, it gives people an excuse to go out, socialise, etc.. 

 

I've realised that a lot of the work conversation revolves around sport and you bond with others over your common interests. The last few weeks has thought me how difficult it is to actually engage in conversation for a prolonged period of time when there is little work nor sport. The pandemic seems to be the only thing discussed 24/7 and there is very little escape from it. 

 

I also think having the football back will be a sign that everything is getting back to normal and the economy and society are adapting to the pandemic and are starting to beat it. Therefore, it will be a signal of the good times being back. 

Escapism is all it offers. Shiuld this be the end of Football forever (it isn't) we'd quickly find another escape - exercise, reading, building etc. 

 

I hope this pandemic underlines that to footballers. All they do is entertain they people who actually contribute to society. You can replace a footballer easily. Not so a surgeon or firefighter. 

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5 hours ago, Leicester_Loyal said:

I'll be in the minority here for sure, but these past few weeks I've realised how little football actually means. But I don't go for the football, I go for my mates and the day out, I have always done, so not sure anything drastic will change for me.

Met a Fulham fan who does most aways but openly states he couldnt give a shit about football and just goes for the day out/night out and pre and post match beers. Says he rarely goes to home games but has a season ticket to ensure he can get priority away if they get promoted.

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8 hours ago, Preston Fox said:

For me, the silence from all premier league players re their salaries is deafening. To me it’s morally wrong that the players are picking up all of their huge salaries yet some clubs are furloughing their staff. If players took a 50% pay cut (and they would still be VERY well paid), then this would make a huge difference. I really hope this happens but not sure that it will. I love football and this club but now is the time to realise that the obscene salaries have to stop-especially when we have fantastic NHS staff earning less than 1/2 a per-cent of the average premier league player. 

Exactly right..

Another reason why people just may be put off the game when it resumes.. millions struggling, nurses paid peanuts when putting their own lives at risk to help others without the correct ppe!..

And there's the likes of Ozil still picking up his £300,000 A WEEK!.. for practising keepy uppies with a bog roll.

Obscene isn't a strong enough word.

 

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2 hours ago, foxile5 said:

You misunderstand. It entertains me and I LOVE it.

 

But In terms of actually giving something important to society, in terms of contributing something valuable - well, it doesn't. The NHS does. Schools do. Police do. 

 

I hope that twats like Grealish might get a bit of perspective. They're paid handsomely to do a job that, if it were to stop altogether, wouldn't be missed. We couldn't put the NHS on hold. 

i still don’t think you’re getting football then, tbh. football to most people isn’t just 22 overpaid players kicking a ball around for 90 mins then it’s over. that’s what it is on sky sports and that’s what it is to armchair fans, but to most “football fans” it’s literally their life. 

 

it’s community, it’s routine, it’s friends, it’s days out, nights out. it’s jobs to a hell of a lot of people. the economy. more recently it’s even things like food banks for the community, charity, local businesses, anything you can think of goes through football in a lot of places. 

 

if you got rid of football you’d ruin large parts of this country and the people who live in them. as a “thing”, football gives an unbelievable amount to society. it gives it life. 

 

 

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23 minutes ago, ScouseFox said:

i still don’t think you’re getting football then, tbh. football to most people isn’t just 22 overpaid players kicking a ball around for 90 mins then it’s over. that’s what it is on sky sports and that’s what it is to armchair fans, but to most “football fans” it’s literally their life. 

 

it’s community, it’s routine, it’s friends, it’s days out, nights out. it’s jobs to a hell of a lot of people. the economy. more recently it’s even things like food banks for the community, charity, local businesses, anything you can think of goes through football in a lot of places. 

 

if you got rid of football you’d ruin large parts of this country and the people who live in them. as a “thing”, football gives an unbelievable amount to society. it gives it life. 

 

 

I agree completely. But if we were to do away with then then these people, our friends, our routines would find something else. 

 

We can't find alternative health care or civic services. 

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The first games back up and down the country will be unbridled joy, everywhere will be packed to the rafters with tremendous atmospheres.

 

Of course footballers are paid far far too much, but they have a skill that 0.000001% possess and probably 90% of the world would kill to have. That tiny percentage are watched by millions of people around the world every weekend. They can't be paid £50k p.a

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1 hour ago, whoareyaaa said:

As soon as the first whistle blows, can't wait to see a competitive game of football tbh. this is shit

 

 

As someome said on our forum we'll all be back cheering a goal , berating the ref or bemoaning a bad miss/pass when it kicks off.

 

Mind you for whatvever reason some seem to think on there this is "OTT hysteria to a bit of bad flu"!

 

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The overpaid argument could be applied to anyone in the entertainment industry, actors, singers etc. 

 

I work from home normally so that's not having an impact but am so bored at the weekend without football. It's an escapism and a major contributor to my topics of conversation with friends, sharing a mutal celebration or reason to moan. One of the things I was really looking forward to about moving back to England (that's off obviously) was being able to go to matches regularly again. 

 

It'll be a major positive when something returns, in whatever form and when ever that might be. 

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13 hours ago, Mark_w said:

It's f***ing depressing without it though isn't it?

I am a Sports fanatic...

 

my kids ,1 in doses,the other 3 travel & trek the world...No Sport interest,but very active...

My wife,like me hiked & trekked the Four corners & inbetween around the world...

Has no desire towards Any sport,probably and with One of my daughters,the fittest People I have known.....

 

My various Groups & Cliques of aquaintances,only a few like myself, majority of others Not One iota of interest in any Commercial sport..

So though hard to believe,there are other things in life,and other activities...

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14 hours ago, weller54 said:

I'm wondering long it will take for the passion/interest in football to return if this ban goes on for months and months?

A lot of people may adapt to a new way of life and  have different priorities after going through this crisis..

Maybe sometime before the passion for the game returns.

Imagine a bloke sent down for a 10 stretch and his missus has waited for him and pitched up in fishnets. Yeah, about that long.

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12 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

Imagine a bloke sent down for a 10 stretch and his missus has waited for him and pitched up in fishnets. Yeah, about that long.

My Wife waiting for me ......in fishnets..:dunno:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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5 hours ago, foxile5 said:

Escapism is all it offers. Shiuld this be the end of Football forever (it isn't) we'd quickly find another escape - exercise, reading, building etc. 

 

I hope this pandemic underlines that to footballers. All they do is entertain they people who actually contribute to society. You can replace a footballer easily. Not so a surgeon or firefighter. 

You seem to be saying that football (or presumably any sport) doesn't matter. As a pure indicator of human survival obviously it doesn't. But it is a massive and global part of human culture. Like music for example - not essential, but we'd all be enormously poorer without it. The tougher times get, the more we need these things I'd argue - not the less...

As for your other point, I'd say it's much more difficult to become a pro footballer than almost any other occupation. 

The things that make life possible and the things that make it worth living are not mutually exclusive and living (hopefully) through a crisis is no excuse for forgetting that.

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5 hours ago, Nalis said:

Met a Fulham fan who does most aways but openly states he couldnt give a shit about football and just goes for the day out/night out and pre and post match beers. Says he rarely goes to home games but has a season ticket to ensure he can get priority away if they get promoted.

The Irony!!

A Glory hunting Fulham fan.

 

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1 hour ago, fuchsntf said:

I am a Sports fanatic...

 

my kids ,1 in doses,the other 3 travel & trek the world...No Sport interest,but very active...

My wife,like me hiked & trekked the Four corners & inbetween around the world...

Has no desire towards Any sport,probably and with One of my daughters,the fittest People I have known.....

 

My various Groups & Cliques of aquaintances,only a few like myself, majority of others Not One iota of interest in any Commercial sport..

So though hard to believe,there are other things in life,and other activities...

Good for them. I feel much better.

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1 hour ago, fuchsntf said:

I am a Sports fanatic...

 

my kids ,1 in doses,the other 3 travel & trek the world...No Sport interest,but very active...

My wife,like me hiked & trekked the Four corners & inbetween around the world...

Has no desire towards Any sport,probably and with One of my daughters,the fittest People I have known.....

 

My various Groups & Cliques of aquaintances,only a few like myself, majority of others Not One iota of interest in any Commercial sport..

So though hard to believe,there are other things in life,and other activities...

Sport and travel are my top two interests by a country mile so I'm knackered :unsure:

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7 hours ago, foxile5 said:

Escapism is all it offers. Shiuld this be the end of Football forever (it isn't) we'd quickly find another escape - exercise, reading, building etc. 

 

I hope this pandemic underlines that to footballers. All they do is entertain they people who actually contribute to society. You can replace a footballer easily. Not so a surgeon or firefighter. 

But football is by far the most popular escape and passtime in the world. It'd be quite harsh to think all footballers operate in a moral vacuum, i'm sure there's plenty that are helping beyond question during this crisis. For every Grealish there is a Zaha.

 

And the vast majority of us surely contribute very little to society. What is your average insurance salesman, mortgage broker, estate agent, social media consultant, generic office paper pusher doing for society. I'm trying to think of an average job in a 21st century Western first world country.

 

You can replace a surgeon or firefighter far easier than a footballer. There are over a million firefighters in the US alone, it takes around 4 years of training to become one. Likewise for surgery, you follow a 10 year program of training and become one. I'm not saying these jobs are easy, but to become a professional footballer is far harder, and the replacement factor far greater.

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