Coronavirus Thread

[Paninistickers]

2 minutes ago, Corky said:

Based on what?

Eu right to earn a living

Eu right to freely pursue a business 

Eu right to association and assembly

 

Improper consultation period for introduction of new law

 

I'm sure decent lawyers could come up with better than that and maybe even past precedents

[Dahnsouff]

Just now, Paninistickers said:

Eu right to earn a living

Eu right to freely pursue a business 

Eu right to association and assembly

 

Improper consultation period for introduction of new law

 

I'm sure decent lawyers could come up with better than that and maybe even past precedents

Do I take it you disagree with this and presumably the need for a lockdown in general?

[Legend_in_blue]

Compared to the outright lies and preposterous nature of the modelling used on Saturday's press conference that has led to all this, Vallance and Whitty ought to be fined, and not everyone else trying to make a living.

 

 

[Paninistickers]

4 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

Do I take it you disagree with this and presumably the need for a lockdown in general?

I disagree with being told/ordered/bullied what to do and not advised/asked/trusted what to do. 

 

If you think otherwise, we must have a totally different value system  from each other

[Dahnsouff]

Just now, Paninistickers said:

I disagree with being told/ordered/bullied what to do and not advised/asked/trusted what to do. 

 

If you think otherwise, we must have a totally different value system  from each other

Perhaps but I would not presume to draw that conclusion. If as a society we cannot be entrusted to follow the recommended guidance for the good of society as a whole, what would you suggest?

[Paninistickers]

5 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

Perhaps but I would not presume to draw that conclusion. If as a society we cannot be entrusted to follow the recommended guidance for the good of society as a whole, what would you suggest?

Well, it's not recommended guidance, is it? It's law. 

 

I'm guessing you neither asked for, or want, some off the cuff manifesto from me.

 

But suffice to say, I've largely followed my own common sense since day 1.

 

I've done 'legal' stuff that's absolutely risky in catching the virus and I've done illegal stuff that was absolutely safer then the law

[Dahnsouff]

1 minute ago, Paninistickers said:

Well, it's not recommended guidance, is it? It's law. 

 

I'm guessing you neither asked for, or want, some off the cuff manifesto from me.

 

But suffice to say, I've largely followed my own common sense since day 1.

 

I've done 'legal' stuff that's absolutely risky in catching the virus and I've done illegal stuff that was absolutely safer then the law

Do not disagree with anything you say, and I follow a similar mindset. However, you would assume there are plenty that do not, so therefore such more draconian restrictions have been invoked to ensure all are required to follow the guidelines that perhaps you, me and others follow willingly.

[MonmoreStef]

32 minutes ago, Leicester_Loyal said:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CHN5qlCpy30/

 

Police still at the gym 6 hours later apparently!

6 hours is nothing.  They were still in Portugal 12 years after Madeline went missing. 

[Carl the Llama]

26 minutes ago, Paninistickers said:

Eu right to earn a living

Eu right to freely pursue a business 

Eu right to association and assembly

 

Improper consultation period for introduction of new law

 

I'm sure decent lawyers could come up with better than that and maybe even past precedents

I have some bad news for you...

[The People's Hero]

3 minutes ago, Carl the Llama said:

I have some bad news for you...

FIF is coming back?

[Paninistickers]

3 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

Do not disagree with anything you say, and I follow a similar mindset. However, you would assume there are plenty that do not, so therefore such more draconian restrictions have been invoked to ensure all are required to follow the guidelines that perhaps you, me and others follow willingly.

Then we agree more than I thought. I accept There's significant portion of the nation who are , frankly, thick as pigsh1te and even more selfish. 

 

But 

 

A) sensible people factor that into their own thinking and behaviour (like you would when driving, always looking for danger) 

 

B) the art of leadership is taking people with you. Harness the initial community blitz spirit there was. That chance was blown by destroying everything that's enjoyable in life. Even wwII didn't ban fun or stop education.

 

It's the old adage; treat people like idiots and they'll behave as such

[Dahnsouff]

3 minutes ago, Paninistickers said:

Then we agree more than I thought. I accept There's significant portion of the nation who are , frankly, thick as pigsh1te and even more selfish. 

 

But 

 

A) sensible people factor that into their own thinking and behaviour (like you would when driving, always looking for danger) 

 

B) the art of leadership is taking people with you. Harness the initial community blitz spirit there was. That chance was blown by destroying everything that's enjoyable in life. Even wwII didn't ban fun or stop education.

 

It's the old adage; treat people like idiots and they'll behave as such

Not saying we fully agree, that would be unlikely as situations vary, but common sense rules along with a view on society at large.

 

Anyway, time for a bit of 

[Leicester_Loyal]

 

Found this on another forum.

[st albans fox]

4 hours ago, Izzy said:

Not as mad as you can take a stroll around your golf course with a mate but you can't have a club in your hand 

I have a theory that in four weeks time the ‘lockdown’ will end with most of the country moved into tier 3 or a new level of 4 (which is in effect what we have at the moment). There will be some areas with low levels of infection which may go into tier 2.

 

However, the govt have to give us something to make it look like things have changed - ergo tennis, golf (in pairs), youth team sports outdoors and a few other no risk pursuits (perhaps even shops) will be relaxed .... 

 

the fact is they’ve probably introduced restrictions that simply aren’t needed now so they can relax them in four weeks time 

[Corky]

It seems to me that we should've had a two week break then gone into the tier systems. That looks a much better model than starting it then heading to lockdown before it's benefits are shown.

 

Let's just hope the schools rate is starting to drop.

[Leicester_Loyal]

A short story:

 

 

 

Edited 5 November 2020 by Leicester_Loyal

[Finnaldo]

59.9% of people who came in close contact with positive Covid cases contacted by Track & Trace in the week ending 28 October, 97.9% contacted by local council tracing teams in the same period (https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-just-59-9-of-those-who-came-into-close-contact-with-positive-covid-cases-reached-by-test-and-trace-12124367)

 

Throw this on the pile with 1/5th of Covid summer cases caused by EOTHO. Another government failing, yet it’s Joe Public to blame as usual.

[StanSP]

Another one. 

 

 

 

[simFox]

14 hours ago, Leicester_Loyal said:

 

Found this on another forum.

Which country is that? UK is 48k according to worldometer

[simFox]

21 hours ago, yorkie1999 said:

Simple, wait for the next election, vote labour in and they'll supertax the 5% that own 95% of the wealth.

Who then move overseas and don't pay anything. 

[filbertway]

2 hours ago, StanSP said:

Another one. 

 

 

 

So they realised there was an issue and decided not to use them. Bit of positive news for once. It's much more preferable than them ignoring it and going ahead with it to try and save face.

[reynard]

1 hour ago, simFox said:

Who then move overseas and don't pay anything. 

Probably be taxed just as highly anywhere in the world. So many countries will have such a big bill. Quite right the mega rich should pay their share.

[MonmoreStef]

3 minutes ago, reynard said:

Probably be taxed just as highly anywhere in the world. So many countries will have such a big bill. Quite right the mega rich should pay their share.

 Very easy for someone who isn’t mega rich to say. 

[Mark 'expert' Lawrenson]

Hmmm I see the government are climbing down on their 4000 deaths a day doomsday scenario they sold to the public. Absolute shower.

[simFox]

1 hour ago, reynard said:

Probably be taxed just as highly anywhere in the world. So many countries will have such a big bill. Quite right the mega rich should pay their share.

You literally know nothing.