Coronavirus Thread

[Jimothy]

Apparently we're close to approving the Johnson and Johnson one dose vaccine. I think once we do, we need to give that to those under 40. That way they are done and out the way and can concentrate on carry on giving the second doses to the old and vulnerable.

[VLC86]

5 minutes ago, Facecloth said:

Apparently we're close to approving the Johnson and Johnson one dose vaccine. I think once we do, we need to give that to those under 40. That way they are done and out the way and can concentrate on carry on giving the second doses to the old and vulnerable.

That’s far to sensible to actually happen 

[KrefelderFox666]

9 minutes ago, Facecloth said:

Apparently we're close to approving the Johnson and Johnson one dose vaccine. I think once we do, we need to give that to those under 40. That way they are done and out the way and can concentrate on carry on giving the second doses to the old and vulnerable.

Think the biggest problem is the amount of doses available. I think 30 million were ordered but we don't know how many will be delivered in the next 3 months. It might only be 5 million.

 

Surely we will soon get to a point where some of the ordered vaccines are going to other countries.

[yorkie1999]

37 minutes ago, Leicester_Loyal said:

THIS VIRUS STRUGGLES TO SPREAD OUTSIDE, WHITTY/VALANCE CONFIRMED IT AND IT'S BEEN SAID 1000000 TIMES.

 

HOW MANY TIMES DOES THIS HAVE TO BE SAID? SERIOUSLY! HUNDREDS OF INSTANCES OF GATHERINGS IN THE PAST 13 MONTHS HAVE CAUSED ZERO SPIKES.

 

 

13 deaths today, 61.1% of all adults have had a first dose, 14.5% of all adults have had a second dose.

So why did they shut down all the outdoor stuff in the first place then.

[VLC86]

1 minute ago, yorkie1999 said:

So why did they shut down all the outdoor stuff in the first place then.

The moment you realise the government might have made a few mistakes

[st albans fox]

10 minutes ago, yorkie1999 said:

So why did they shut down all the outdoor stuff in the first place then.

How many of the outdoor gatherings actually occurred when lots of virus was circulating ?  The combination on low viral presence with outdoor gathering leads to little transmission risk.  There is a good conversation to be had about why low risk outdoor stuff like kids football was re opened so slowly. 

[Leicester_Loyal]

20 minutes ago, yorkie1999 said:

So why did they shut down all the outdoor stuff in the first place then.

God knows mate, I think they were just sending a message to be honest.  None of the outdoor gatherings which we were seeing every fortnite led to any form of a spike 2 weeks later.

[st albans fox]

45 minutes ago, Sampson said:

I've just seen that Chile have been largely using the Sinovac vaccine which is not said to only have a 50.4% efficiency rating.

Might explain why their cases have risen again after opening up compared to Israel which has used the Pfizer vaccine. 

Ties up with a Chinese official who was ‘ miss quoted’ saying their vaccine may only be 50% effective ...

[Mike Oxlong]

Sorry to hear your sad news Webbo. It must be awful for you and your family. Condolences to you all. 

[st albans fox]

Looking at the 7 day running deaths for Israel, we may be looking at a daily toll here between 60 and 90 deaths if we crudely extrapolate population numbers after we have properly re opened ....

[Corky]

2 hours ago, yorkie1999 said:

I’ll give it six weeks and the pubs will all be shut again. Just drove past my local and it’s rammed outside,  no distancing whatsoever

You can drink outdoors all over the city, it's safe outside says Professor Chris Whitty, let's hope it's damn hot!

[Kasey Keller]

2 hours ago, yorkie1999 said:

I’ll give it six weeks and the pubs will all be shut again. Just drove past my local and it’s rammed outside,  no distancing whatsoever

No chance 

[Webbo]

26 minutes ago, Mike Oxlong said:

Sorry to hear your sad news Webbo. It must be awful for you and your family. Condolences to you all. 

I've ran out of reps, sorry.

 

Thanks for everyone's kind words, I appreciate it.

[st albans fox]

Between 45 and 75 cases of the s African variant found in Lambeth/Wandsworth......... the authorities need to get a grip of that quickly ....

[Mike Oxlong]

1 minute ago, Webbo said:

I've ran out of reps, sorry.

 

Thanks for everyone's kind words, I appreciate it.

Don’t be silly Webbo. Hope you’re ok. You’re one of the forum’s good guys 👍

[Webbo]

The Johnson and Johnson vaccine is based on the same technology as the AZ jab, might not be a good idea to give it to the under 40s until a bit more is known about it.

[KFS]

1 hour ago, Facecloth said:

Apparently we're close to approving the Johnson and Johnson one dose vaccine. I think once we do, we need to give that to those under 40. That way they are done and out the way and can concentrate on carry on giving the second doses to the old and vulnerable.

J&J supplies are very low after a balls up at a factory, but this is a good suggestion. It’s causing wild symptoms after dosage. I’m 26 and it was like having bad flu symptoms for 24hrs after getting it.

[KFS]

And Webbo, goes without saying but so sorry to hear of your loss. This virus and its implications has taken too many precious lives.

[Bert]

God bless, Harris. Thoughts with you Webbo. 
 

Been out tonight for a few and it was so good to see lots of people out enjoying themselves.

[tom27111]

Just catching up on this thread.

 

Love and condolences to you and your family @Webbo from all of us 

[RowlattsFox]

Pretty gutted that the 3 pubs in my local area haven't bothered opening until May. Probably because they are run by Stonehouse and Beefeater. 

[tom27111]

3 minutes ago, RowlattsFox said:

Pretty gutted that the 3 pubs in my local area haven't bothered opening until May. Probably because they are run by Stonehouse and Beefeater. 

Quite a lot of that happening. To be fair, after what they've been through, they have to make it financially viable.

 

The furlough scheme is still running, so hopefully the staff are OK and managing.

 

Who knows what will happen in the next few weeks, it isn't beyond the realms of possibility that they'll be ordered to shut up shop again, costing hundreds or thousands in beer that'll have to be thrown down the drain again.

 

I completely understand the caution. 

[MattFox]

2 hours ago, yorkie1999 said:

So why did they shut down all the outdoor stuff in the first place then.

Because it’s easier to enforce what goes on outdoors than what goes on behind closed doors and they were being ridiculously cautious.

 

I hope any future enquiry comes down hard on the government for shutting kids playgrounds and banning outdoor sport though.

[dsr-burnley]

2 hours ago, yorkie1999 said:

So why did they shut down all the outdoor stuff in the first place then.

Might it be because when it was a brand new disease that they knew nothing about, they didn't know whether it spread outdoors or not?

[st albans fox]

7 hours ago, dsr-burnley said:

Might it be because when it was a brand new disease that they knew nothing about, they didn't know whether it spread outdoors or not?

This is true but they knew the risks were absolutely minimal this lockdown but persisted. I suppose the issue is not just about the being together to play the sport but the temptation to then socialise thereafter ....... they were doing everything they could to minimise R given that they were committed to re opening schools and the expectation that this would have had a more negative impact on cases than it turned out