Coronavirus Thread

[Chrysalis]

Yeah trust wise he has nothing left.

 

Probably money to be made for him in books though selling even more secrets.

[foxile5]

52 minutes ago, Corky said:

Weren't they warned about this possibility when he was brought into the fold a few years ago?

Oh yeah

They're all as bad as one another. 

[Livid]

I think that most people actually don’t care about the government handling of this whole thing. I don’t know why it just seems to wash over people.

 

I then see a lot of anger over a lot of issues but the same people will still vote for them. 

 

Hard to understand. 
 

[Parafox]

4 hours ago, Dunge said:

I think there’s a couple of key things here. Firstly, he was forced out of Downing Street last year after allegedly briefing against Carrie Symonds. So he’ll have revenge in mind against her and Boris for that. Secondly, his own reputation is still in tatters after the Barnard Castle debacle, so he’s trying to salvage it. Is he just trying to present the truth in a visible way for the sake of the public? I’m sure that’s a handy narrative for him to lead with but I have a hard time believing it, particularly since he’s effectively burning some bridges. It looks like he’s trying to settle more scores along the way, too. He hasn’t so much thrown Matt Hancock under the bus as tied him to the road and driven the bus over him repeatedly.

 

All in all, although the revelations are sensational and fascinating, he’s doing pretty much what I thought he’d do: Truth mixed with embellishment and likely some things that are out of place or context, while trying to paint himself as the almost-hero of the tragic piece. “If only I’d acted on my gut,” he paraphrases, “If only I’d been more arrogant and told everyone what I really thought, we could have saved so many lives. But alas, I am but a humble man, always your servant, and ever-so-self-deprecating when I say you deserved better than me. But I was there, which is the incompetent PM’s fault if you think about it, while his airhead girlfriend blustered on trifling matters and his devious Health Secretary lied to everyone while he was on his death bed. They’re the real villains here, you see. Definitely not me. I am an honourable man.”

Is that a genuine quote, since you have used quotation marks, or are you paraphrasing?

Serious question.

[Mark 'expert' Lawrenson]

33 minutes ago, Livid said:

I think that most people actually don’t care about the government handling of this whole thing. I don’t know why it just seems to wash over people.

 

I then see a lot of anger over a lot of issues but the same people will still vote for them. 

 

Hard to understand. 
 

Yes it is but also a reflection on how 💩 the opposition are.

[Mark 'expert' Lawrenson]

Second jab today In Narborough, 45 minutes waiting time as the amount of people queuing up through Narborough was amazing, mass vaccination there today, not sure if it’s like that every day.

[Dunge]

25 minutes ago, Parafox said:

Is that a genuine quote, since you have used quotation marks, or are you paraphrasing?

Serious question.

No, that’s just me paraphrasing and inferring. 

[Legend_in_blue]

43 minutes ago, Livid said:

I think that most people actually don’t care about the government handling of this whole thing. I don’t know why it just seems to wash over people.

 

I then see a lot of anger over a lot of issues but the same people will still vote for them. 

 

Hard to understand. 
 

 

9 minutes ago, Mark 'expert' Lawrenson said:

Yes it is but also a reflection on how 💩 the opposition are.

 

Very true.  This is why I couldn't even be bothered to vote in the locals.  I've become completely disinterested.  Current voting system is meaningless in South Leicestershire also as Tories always get in regardless of who you vote for.  The whole lot of them are a bunch of liars.  And all the opposition say is we'd have done the same but quicker.

 

Listening to Cummings at this moment - tip of the iceberg stuff.  The inquest into this will roll on for years.  Initial thoughts - I actually hope Cummings isn't made the scapegoat, the modelling "experts" need to be absolutely hammered for their role in all of this, locking down quicker is/was not the answer it's far more complicated than that, and Hancock is a  stock.  

 

 

Edited 26 May 2021 by Legend_in_blue

[Mark 'expert' Lawrenson]

Headline news today.

 

Expert warns of “super mutant variants”

Scary stuff looking at that headline until upon further reading he says it’ll likely be a weaker strain of the virus.

 

The media have not covered themselves in glory through the pandemic, where is the investigative reporting? Why do we only ever hear one side of the story? 
 

I do understand the need to get peoples attention but some of the headlines have been just for shock value.

 

The BBC are in the government’s back pockets that’s clear to see.

[whoareyaaa]

4 minutes ago, Mark 'expert' Lawrenson said:

Headline news today.

 

Expert warns of “super mutant variants”

Scary stuff looking at that headline until upon further reading he says it’ll likely be a weaker strain of the virus.

 

The media have not covered themselves in glory through the pandemic, where is the investigative reporting? Why do we only ever hear one side of the story? 
 

I do understand the need to get peoples attention but some of the headlines have been just for shock value.

 

The BBC are in the government’s back pockets that’s clear to see.

the bbc is the gov  

[Livid]

8 minutes ago, Mark 'expert' Lawrenson said:

Headline news today.

 

Expert warns of “super mutant variants”

Scary stuff looking at that headline until upon further reading he says it’ll likely be a weaker strain of the virus.

 

The media have not covered themselves in glory through the pandemic, where is the investigative reporting? Why do we only ever hear one side of the story? 
 

I do understand the need to get peoples attention but some of the headlines have been just for shock value.

 

The BBC are in the government’s back pockets that’s clear to see.

Click bait journalism in the worst of circumstances.  Absolutely no social responsibility, just vile. 

[Mark 'expert' Lawrenson]

The government fed the public the line of everyone get vaccinated, save the NHS, get the deaths right down and get back to normal, so a lot of people did, including myself and now it seems they’re once again back tracking.

They’ll not be a “normal” instead it’ll be a new normal because they’ll be a never ending supply of variants to use as a reason to keep the rules.

Deaths in single figure again, I think it’s easy enough to give a little more detail when there are so few deaths, age and underlying health issues for starters.

[st albans fox]

Cases slowly creeping back up - no surprise given the Indian variant activity plus relaxation of some indoor hospitality restrictions early last week

 

2 weeks before they can see if the case data leads to a notable uptick in hospitalisations (unlikely) and that is about a week before the 21 June relaxation 

 

no need for any concerns at the moment .......

[Leicester_Loyal]

1 hour ago, Mark 'expert' Lawrenson said:

Headline news today.

 

Expert warns of “super mutant variants”

Scary stuff looking at that headline until upon further reading he says it’ll likely be a weaker strain of the virus.

 

The media have not covered themselves in glory through the pandemic, where is the investigative reporting? Why do we only ever hear one side of the story? 
 

I do understand the need to get peoples attention but some of the headlines have been just for shock value.

 

The BBC are in the government’s back pockets that’s clear to see.

The Government are spending hundreds of millions on advertising with the media, they don't give a crap as they're coining it in, regardless of what the headlines say. I'm sure one figure for the past 12 months I saw the other day on Twitter (so take it with a punch of salt) was 320 million, madness.

[yorkie1999]

These eton/harrow lot are a bunch of bitches ain't they.

[Guest Chocolate Teapot]

31 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

Cases slowly creeping back up - no surprise given the Indian variant activity plus relaxation of some indoor hospitality restrictions early last week

 

2 weeks before they can see if the case data leads to a notable uptick in hospitalisations (unlikely) and that is about a week before the 21 June relaxation 

 

no need for any concerns at the moment .......

Hospitalizations creeping up albeit slowly. I really ****ing hope we're not going to mess this up.

[Paninistickers]

7 minutes ago, Chocolate Teapot said:

Hospitalizations creeping up albeit slowly. I really ****ing hope we're not going to mess this up.

Who on earth is needing hospital treatment?

 

apart from those who are obese and under 34, anybody even remotely at risk has been vaccinated. 

[Leicester_Loyal]

5 minutes ago, Chocolate Teapot said:

Hospitalizations creeping up albeit slowly. I really ****ing hope we're not going to mess this up.

They were always going to go up sadly, people aged 50+ who have decided to not have the vaccine will be susceptible. If you're looking at the numbers though, we had over 39k people in hospital in January, that's currently at 789. Huge vaccination drive going on again, we'll be doing people aged 25+ by the end of next week.

[Leicester_Loyal]

Just now, Paninistickers said:

Who on earth is needing hospital treatment?

 

apart from those who are obese and under 34, anybody even remotely at risk has been vaccinated. 

They'll be tens of thousands who haven't had the vaccine and older people who can't have the vaccine (due to being on certain medications etc.)

 

And I think people who are in hospital but catch COVID in there count towards the statistics, this could be anyone but may also be older people in hospital for other health issues.

[StanSP]

2 minutes ago, Paninistickers said:

Who on earth is needing hospital treatment?

 

apart from those who are obese and under 34, anybody even remotely at risk has been vaccinated. 

the anti-vax twats

[Guest Harrydc]

1 minute ago, StanSP said:

the anti-vax twats

Simply not the case. 

[StanSP]

3 minutes ago, Harrydc said:

Simply not the case. 

who then?

 

[Paninistickers]

5 minutes ago, Leicester_Loyal said:

They'll be tens of thousands who haven't had the vaccine and older people who can't have the vaccine (due to being on certain medications etc.)

 

And I think people who are in hospital but catch COVID in there count towards the statistics, this could be anyone but may also be older people in hospital for other health issues.

Most elderly frail folk who are too poorly to have even a vaccine don't tend to have large social circles nor be out and about much And since only  1 in say 200 people have the virus, it'd be terribly bad luck to catch it en route to the local co.op.

 

Apart from freak isolated  cases, nobody unvaccinated and under 35 of normal.build will end up in hospital. 

 

Which means the pool of people who can be hospitalised is miniscule

 

 

[Legend_in_blue]

13 hours ago, Line-X said:

You mean this?...

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-57242368

 

Here is the data that apparently requires urgent action in Bolton, a tiny part of the NW...

 

There are 31 hospitalisations in the whole of the NW.  Population roughly 4.5 million.  

 

The BBC continue to drive the hysteria. 

 

[Leicester_Loyal]

2 minutes ago, Paninistickers said:

Most elderly frail folk who are too poorly to have even a vaccine don't tend to have large social circles nor be out and about much And since only  1 in say 200 people have the virus, it'd be terribly bad luck to catch it en route to the local co.op.

 

Apart from freak isolated  cases, nobody unvaccinated and under 35 of normal.build will end up in hospital. 

 

Which means the pool of people who can be hospitalised is miniscule

 

 

I reckon it'll be from hospitals, care homes, hospices, visiting family members etc.

 

I don't think we'll ever see five figure hospital numbers again, but they'll probably go up by a couple of thousand once we open everything up and continue plodding along.