Brendan Rodgers

[Beechey]

1 minute ago, Babylon said:

Sometimes it’s not just the manager it’s the makeup of the squad, or confidence or a combination.

 

Pearson had some ridiculously bad runs of form, but we got where we wanted to be in the end. That’s what ultimately matters.

Am I worried, yes. Is it also way too early to be even remotely considering removing someone from their job, yes.

 

Personally I’m not sure he trusts Soyuncu 100%. From day one we’ve always seemed to try and offer more protection to our defence than wouldn’t normally be needed. 

 

I think it's clear there's a few he doesn't trust.

 

He most evidently doesn't trust Bennett, Morgan or Fuchs at CB given we have James Justin, a former League One full back playing there.

He doesn't trust Gray or Barnes to play any position other than as a winger. He doesn't trust Iheanacho to lead the line on his own.

 

Our squad, even threadbare as it is, is clearly full of players he sees as specialists in single positions (we don't play currently - like wingers) or simply not up to standard.

[Wolfox]

1 hour ago, Leicester_Loyal said:

This sort of attitude is embarrassing to me. That loss yesterday has absolutely nothing to do with squad depth or injuries, it was the most ridiculous footballing substitute I’ve ever seen. 
 

Calling for him to be sacked might be a tad much, but the blind faith being shown when it’s clear there’s something wrong is staggering. 

I don’t think that’s what he’s saying…. It’s not simply blind faith, it’s recognising that even good people can have a bad day/ week/ month at the office…

 

When you judge someone, you need to look at it in the round…. Of course he cocked up yesterday (As hindsight is always 20/20)….
 

His subs against Palace worked perfectly though (even in our recent downturn of form)….
 

He has, on balance, got far more right than wrong.  Our form has dipped dramatically and some of our key players are out....  since the restart we stuttered, but also looked good v Palace and Arsenal (for a half)

 

if we don’t get Champs, it’ll be a massive kick in the goolies, let’s get the summer done and see how we progress next year….   I think he’s at least earned that from our clubs fans??!
 

 

Edited 13 July 2020 by Wolfox

[JJD_LCFC]

23 minutes ago, sacreblueits442 said:

...the rumors are that he was not well liked by the players!!!

  Training was an issue and apparently it was beast mode.

  Any job he takes on he will come up against the same problem, any initial success would be tempered by the players willingness to buy into this mode of training.

 Although he took Spurs to the top 4 and CL final he has no medals to show after all his time there, therefore the players no longer bought into his regime.

I do agree it come across that he made the players train double sessions and at the end of 5 years lost the players. He did though get champions league football almost every year, played a great style of play and improved all of the young players. 

Definitely worked the players hard but for 5 years the results were very good. We have a core of older key players but a very talented young squad which needs guidance and good coaching to reach their potential. Has a higher reputation in the game than Brendan as well. Yes training will be hard but he could be a great managerial appointment.

[Mendi]

To soon to call for his head.

[Mendi]

To soon to call for his head.

[That_Dude]

2 hours ago, Swan Lesta said:

I can barely believe what I’m reading - the entitlement in here is just embarrassing.

 

There’s not one of you at start of this season who’s wouldn’t have taken a top six finish with European football.

 

We are likely going to finish the day in fifth place against teams with stronger benches than the side we put out yesterday.

 

That combined with three of our first choice players being injured and the depth in squad top four quality of a dry puddle, we are punching above, way above our weight.

 

Honestly - imagine other teams fans reading this. It’s like you all got bought the wrong pony for Christmas.
 

Fairytales are great but they don’t happen every year. Our form since Xmas has been poor in places but calling for Brendans head after how far he’s brought us doesn’t sit right with me. He needs a second window and some players to make the football work - we can’t play on the counter for ever and transforming a style of play takes time unless you can just buy your way into doing so which Leicester can’t.

 

 

You make fair points and wanting him to be sacked is premature to say the least. The on-going nostalgia about that counter-attacking football, which was already sussed out in 2016, is also something I can't get my head around.

 

However the trend in the last 6 months is downwards, the team has 0 mental resilience (just like Liverpool under him) and the fantastic first half of the season isn't going to buy him much more time at this rate. People have the right to be worried, especially about the next season. Now he's throwing players under the bus (Nacho) as excuse for his baffling substitution, which cost us not only the game but most certainly the CL. We could even end up out of the top 6.

 

We'll see what he's made of in the last three games. It starts with SU.

Edited 13 July 2020 by That_Dude

[Sharpe's Fox]

I don’t think this is a serious debate. Just a bunch of reactionary men venting frustration on a website. Would people be clamouring for Rodgers to go in the ground? No. This is especially since I think Top will back him completely and in reality we all know that.

[foxfanazer]

Just now, Sharpe's Fox said:

I don’t think this is a serious debate. Just a bunch of reactionary men venting frustration on a website. Would people be clamouring for Rodgers to go in the ground? No. This is especially since I think Top will back him completely and in reality we all know that.

Yeah I expect him too. Mainly for the financial implications 

[Guest ttfn]

I think the number of people actually calling for him to be sacked is actually very small.

 

I think a lot of people - myself included - are sick of being told there’s not a debate to be had about Rodgers’ performance just because we’re in the top 4. 
 

We’re a significantly worse side than we were a year ago and he’s paid twice as much for the privilege.

[Leicester_Loyal]

16 minutes ago, Wolfox said:

I don’t think that’s what he’s saying…. It’s not simply blind faith, it’s recognising that even good people can have a bad day/ week/ month at the office…

 

When you judge someone, you need to look at it in the round…. Of course he cocked up yesterday (As hindsight is always 20/20)….
 

His subs against Palace worked perfectly though (even in our recent downturn of form)….
 

He has, on balance, got far more right than wrong.  Our form has dipped dramatically and some of our key players are out....  since the restart we stuttered, but also looked good v Palace and Arsenal (for a half)

 

if we don’t get Champs, it’ll be a massive kick in the goolies, let’s get the summer done and see how we progress next year….   I think he’s at least earned that from our clubs fans??!
 

 

Against Palace he made the right calls, it worked out in the end, but they were on the beach, but we'll give Rodgers that one.

 

We only got anything out of the Arsenal game thanks to them having a man sent off.

 

Like I said, if Rodgers learns from it, I've got no problem, as he'll become a better manager, but the fact he's not saying he got it wrong is staggering. If we were in the same situation next season, is he going to make the same subs again? It looks like it, as he genuinely believe he made the right call.

[Leicester_Loyal]

Just now, ttfn said:

I think the number of people actually calling for him to be sacked is actually very small.

 

I think a lot of people - myself included - are sick of being told there’s not a debate to be had about Rodgers’ performance just because we’re in the top 4. 
 

We’re a significantly worse side than we were a year ago and he’s paid twice as much for the privilege.

Yeah no way should he be sacked, but being told you're entitled, not a proper fan, spoilt or you've forgotten about the League 1 days does nothing. There's a few who will always want a manager sacked and a few who will always have blind faith, the majority of us are somewhere in the middle and will always move about depending on results and performances.

[Bazly]

Rodgers has crossed a threshold with yesterdays debacle. His approval rating plummeted after the game and its hard to see where the points are going to come from in the remainder of the season. Assuming the team performs to form then we will finish 7th and the form of late will be more like 17th. Heading into the new season will be when we know within 10 games if Rodgers will last the season or be gone and on current form, he will be gone in the Autumn.

[sacreblueits442]

Just now, Sharpe's Fox said:

I don’t think this is a serious debate. Just a bunch of reactionary men venting frustration on a website. Would people be clamouring for Rodgers to go in the ground? No. This is especially since I think Top will back him completely and in reality we all know that.

...yes they would!!!

Do you believe that had travelling fans witnessed that debacle that they would not react?

  We are at this moment sleepwalking in a nightmare that we see no end to, there is a pattern of inexplicably decision making that has transformed a vibrant team into relegation fodder, it certainly is not nice watch and just hope, if we are lucky, we get to wake up soon.

 

[sacreblueits442]

6 minutes ago, ttfn said:

I think the number of people actually calling for him to be sacked is actually very small.

 

I think a lot of people - myself included - are sick of being told there’s not a debate to be had about Rodgers’ performance just because we’re in the top 4. 
 

We’re a significantly worse side than we were a year ago and he’s paid twice as much for the privilege.

..well said!!!

[Guest]

I would really like BR to stop saying that we've played well for 45 minutes in a match. When you lose 4-1 to a team that look League 1 standard it's more than embarrassing. Maybe the sooner he realises that we aren't playing well and says it the sooner he can try to change it. 

 

Playing attacking football would be a start. His tactics have been poor since we were found out by the big clubs in December and his substitutions are generally terrible.

[weller54]

Just now, pmcla26 said:

What’s supposedly the solution regarding Rodgers’ performance then if there’s a debate to be had? Do you think he needs to go? If so, who would replace him? 

Sean Dyche is the man!

[Izzy]

21 minutes ago, Mendi said:

To soon to call for his head.

 

20 minutes ago, Mendi said:

To soon to call for his head.

You can say that again

[Guest ttfn]

Just now, pmcla26 said:

What’s supposedly the solution regarding Rodgers’ performance then if there’s a debate to be had? Do you think he needs to go? If so, who would replace him? 

There is no solution other than for Rodgers to acknowledge his mistakes and learn from them.
 

He has shown no signs of doing either. I want him to succeed because I think he has a lot of good ideas about football and as we’ve seen when it’s going well he is capable of producing some great stuff. I don’t think he has the humility or self-awareness to acknowledge his own failings and last night was yet another example of that.

 

I also don’t think people realise how much Rodgers’ contract has the club over a barrel. Spurs are in the same situation with Mourinho. We don’t have a choice but to accept the situation and hope he sorts it out. 
 

If it wasn’t for the size of his contract I’d be on the fence. As it is I just don’t think the club could justify firing him even if they wanted to.

[splinterdream]

47 minutes ago, pmcla26 said:

So you think Puel would’ve got us to 2nd in the league this season? 
 

Farcical, honestly farcical. The bloke had us losing 4-1 to Palace at home ffs. I doubt Youri would even be here this season with Puel still in charge. 

Honestly I’m not sure, I was pulling my hair out when we were playing Wilf and Mendy as 2 defensive midfielders against bottom of the league sides at home but he did bring in some decent players which are the basis of this side. Maddison, Ricardo, Youri, Soyuncu. I’m not calling for BR head but at least we could give Puel credit for those signings 

[marcymarc666]

COULD BRENDAN PLEASE SELF ISOLATE AT HALF TIME

[surrifox]

Tactically inferior to Potter , Howe and the equally useless Lampard in the last few weeks 

[weller54]

2 minutes ago, surrifox said:

Tactically inferior to Potter , Howe and the equally useless Lampard in the last few weeks 

... months!

7 months to be exact.

[volpeazzurro]

19 minutes ago, pmcla26 said:

That’s not answered what I asked though. So the first half of the season was the team working without Rodgers and the players were doing it all themselves? 
 

He didn’t start his weird team selections when everyone was fully fit, we’ve had injuries and don’t have the quality to back our starting 11 up. He hasn’t helped himself tactically but it’s obvious some of the players have let him down too. 

I'll try and explain a bit more comprehensively then.

 

In the first half of the season and of course it's only my opinion,  our young players played with flair, speed and confidence. Vardy was his old self and his energy, and that of our other forward players caused havoc and mistakes from the opposition. The team because of its winning run and good performances picked itself with players also seemingly happy in their positions and secure in their particular roles within the team. The only real weak link at this time for me was Perez. At this time, I think Rodgers, with his seemingly effervescent personality and media saviness appeared to be having a very positive effect imo.

 

Things started to change subtly at first. Vardy stopped playing his normal game. We were told by him and Rodgers that this was to conserve his stamina for those occasions that required quick bursts of energy during the game. However, as Vardy stopped pressing and hassling, so did others and the slower build up, passing game out from the back, a Rodgers influenced philosophy as used at previous clubs was commenced. It was counter productive as by the time we got forward, Vardy and any other threat had usually been nullified. Vardy became a frustrated largely non contributory shadow of his former self. Our only saving grace was the remaining solid defence. 

 

This also coincided with Rodgers experiments on personnel and their positioning ie the previously successful Maddison was shuttled out on the left or in a deeper lying role. Bar two good games, Perez was still poor out on the right. Ignoring Villa in the cup, when I travelled away to Man City it became apparent that Rodgers tactics, or to be more precise, his lack of them, came to the fore. Barnes on the left was not tracking back and on numerous occasions,  poor Chilwell was left on his own with Marhez and DeBreuyne! The same clueless tactical shit show ensued against Liverpool. If there are two teams in the Premiership that you may need two defensive midfielders against and possibly different tactics then these are them. Contrast the much maligned Puel's approach towards them and Chelsea last season,  you could at least see the successful reasoning the tactics albeit they bored some people. It has to be horses for courses. Don't try and out Liverpool Liverpool. 

 

Against Southampton, a team we'd stuffed 9 nil, he swapped round a previously rock solid Evans and Soyuncu, they were uncomfortable on the night. The reasoning being Soyuncu's superior pace? What? Why was he even micromanaging to this degree, the two had a good understanding regarding cover tactics. Let Southampton do the worrying against the same team that had recently given them a spanking!

 

Continued persistence with Rodgers precious build up from the back, strange and varied team selections, square pegs in round holes, poor and untimely substitutions all for me wreak of an egotistical self seeking inept manager who can't wait to baffle his players with his bullshit and overcomplicate matters. It's been his legacy at his previous clubs. It's no real surprise. Just my opinion. 

 

 

[volpeazzurro]

15 minutes ago, pmcla26 said:

Time to go balls deep in the transfer market to match his contract in that case.
 

If we’re gonna show him that level of commitment we need to match it with ambition to get the best out of his time here. No point paying him all that money with his hands tied, if he can’t do it after that then clearly he won’t have learnt from the mistakes recently, like you say, he needs to though.

He took over the best squad we've potentially had in years. He's hardly had his hands tied.

[Chocolate Teapot]

Just now, volpeazzurro said:

He took over the best squad we've potentially had in years. He's hardly had his hands tied.

Might have had some money to spend if he and his staff didn't jump at the first opportunity to fill their pockets too.