2020/21 Under 23's, U19's, Development ... thread

[sacreblueits442]

...I  wonder if Rodgers will look at Gray as a project for the strikers role, after seeing him last night!!!

  Two good finishes although against a lower level defence but nonetheless good strikes.

  He contributes nothing whilst in the midfield but comes to life and takes up great positions when he gets upfront with a chance to score.

[brucey]

4 minutes ago, sacreblueits442 said:

...I  wonder if Rodgers will look at Gray as a project for the strikers role, after seeing him last night!!!

  Two good finishes although against a lower level defence but nonetheless good strikes.

  He contributes nothing whilst in the midfield but comes to life and takes up great positions when he gets upfront with a chance to score.

If we need an emergency striker, both Nacho and Perez are miles ahead of him. 

[Chocolate Teapot]

7 minutes ago, sacreblueits442 said:

...I  wonder if Rodgers will look at Gray as a project for the strikers role, after seeing him last night!!!

  Two good finishes although against a lower level defence but nonetheless good strikes.

  He contributes nothing whilst in the midfield but comes to life and takes up great positions when he gets upfront with a chance to score.

I don't.

[sacreblueits442]

4 minutes ago, brucey said:

If we need an emergency striker, both Nacho and Perez are miles ahead of him. 

...I am not saying that is not the case!!!

 Don't be surprised if their is a twist in this saga.

[FoxinNotts]

1 hour ago, Ric Flair said:

But our EL squad was even stricter in terms of numbers of outfield over 21 players than the PL squad, who would you have left out for Gray? There's an argument Ndidi's inclusion was pretty pointless but very little room to work with.

Yes, this. Or one of the obviously injured party. Bit of a waste of a slot really

[jeffschlupp]

2 minutes ago, FoxinNotts said:

Yes, this. Or one of the obviously injured party. Bit of a waste of a slot really

Amartey wasn't registered, Soyuncu was named because the squad was submitted prior to him getting injured. Castagne and Ricardo are back and will likely be available for the last two games. Ndidi is training and if Mendy were to get injured the club would probably consider rushing him back if it became a must-win scenario into the last game or two.

 

Gray and Slimani were left out because the club anticipated they still might leave. You register the players you know are guaranteed to be staying put.

[Guest SO1]

23 minutes ago, sacreblueits442 said:

...I  wonder if Rodgers will look at Gray as a project for the strikers role, after seeing him last night!!!

  Two good finishes although against a lower level defence but nonetheless good strikes.

  He contributes nothing whilst in the midfield but comes to life and takes up great positions when he gets upfront with a chance to score.

I thought the same. The less he thinks. The less touches of the ball he has. The more instinctive he is. The better player he becomes. If Rodgers hasn't found a place where it can work out for Gray and the club then I think its over for him here. That said look at Mendy. Never say never. Something is going on because there are clubs in the Premier League who need his ability. He should have been sold on for profit last season. The enigma.

Edited 24 November 2020 by SO1

[Jobyfox]

12 minutes ago, SO1 said:

I thought the same. The less he thinks. The less touches of the ball he has. The more instinctive he is. The better player he becomes. If Rodgers hasn't found a place where it can work out for Gray and the club then I think its over for him here. That said look at Mendy. Never say never. Something is going on because there are clubs in the Premier League who need his ability. He should have been sold on for profit last season. The enigma.

That’s what I thought, which is why I also thought he might be better off packing biscuits in a biscuit factory rather than trying to be a professional footballer 

[KFS]

Don’t get drawn into the Gray trap. His career here is over and rightly so. Shame because he showed early promise.

[baldeagle]

Very much doubt we’ll see him play a first team game again 

[Guest SO1]

58 minutes ago, Jobyfox said:

That’s what I thought, which is why I also thought he might be better off packing biscuits in a biscuit factory rather than trying to be a professional footballer 

....said that because he might be better off playing in a counter attacking side that has less possession.

[foxestalkisfullofidiots]

On 23/11/2020 at 20:50, trabuch said:

Gray is a better finisher than Barnes

 

On 23/11/2020 at 21:29, brucey said:

Barnes and Gray have always shone against U23s/cup/championship opposition. Against PL opposition, Gray is very slowly improving but at the pace of a crippled snail, while Barnes goes through patches of good and bad form. Gray has better finishing and Barnes has better decision making,

 

On 23/11/2020 at 21:16, Angus Scott said:

Thank you all for your sarcastic replies, I would expect nothing less. What I am saying is that he is no worse than the 3 people I mentioned.

 

Albrighton's best days are long gone, he's done us good service but has very limited ability.

 

Barnes has plenty of ability but goes missing for long periods in a game & although he has been in the team for 2 years still seems as if he is overawed by it all. His finishing is woeful. A very frustrating player.

 

Not seen enough of Under to really form an opinion yet, but it must be significant that he is only playing a bit part of the subs bench & not starting (remind you of anybody)

 

Ok it was only the Under 23's tonight but I doubt any of those 3 would have scored those 2 goals Gray did ( perhaps Under, see above)

If you look at the career stats for Gray and Barnes in the premier league, Barnes has a way higher goal ratio to mins played and he has a higher shooting accuracy and Gray doesn’t even get close on assists

[Ric Flair]

Derby are an absolute disgrace at the minute but I'd go and try and nab their U23/Academy manager who recently has been helping out Rooney - Justin Walker and Darren Wassall. Walker is a really progressive coach who if we sold a vision of what we want from our academy might be prepared to come. 

[Stadt]

3 hours ago, Ric Flair said:

Derby are an absolute disgrace at the minute but I'd go and try and nab their U23/Academy manager who recently has been helping out Rooney - Justin Walker and Darren Wassall. Walker is a really progressive coach who if we sold a vision of what we want from our academy might be prepared to come. 

The last few external appointments we've made haven't stayed long in Idiakez and Dmitri Halajko. The academy is a bit too insular with Rudkin obviously getting promoted to DoF, the head of academy role was filled internally by Ian Cawley from head of community coaching too. Any idea on Peake's replacement?

[Ric Flair]

40 minutes ago, Stadt said:

The last few external appointments we've made haven't stayed long in Idiakez and Dmitri Halajko. The academy is a bit too insular with Rudkin obviously getting promoted to DoF, the head of academy role was filled internally by Ian Cawley from head of community coaching too. Any idea on Peake's replacement?

Peake's replacement was the U16 coach Adam Barradell, whom is very highly regarded. You are right though, its a pretty closed shop led by Rudkin and Toad in the Beaglehole.

[Ric Flair]

U18's only losing 1-0 at half time away at Spurs. 

[moore_94]

1 hour ago, Ric Flair said:

U18's only losing 1-0 at half time away at Spurs. 

Last minute equalizer!! We finally have a point!

 

This was our lineup apparently, with a bench of: Freddie Cook, Tyler Weeks, Oliver Hempstead, Tawanda Jethro Maswanhise, Will Russ

 

Edited 28 November 2020 by moore_94

[LcFc_Smiv]

On 07/11/2020 at 13:53, LCFC1996 said:

Make that 8-1...

I was part of the backroom staff for a Barnsley U18 team who were on the wrong end of an 8-1 result against Chelsea yesterday in the FA youth cup. All I can say is wow. There are some players coming through in that Chelsea team including a 16 year old Jude Soonsup-Bell who put 4 past us, just as he did against Leicester a month or so back.

[davieG]

 

City's Development Squad face Tottenham Hotspur Under-23s at 12pm GMT 🔵 
Here's how the Foxes line up for today's PL2 clash 🦊

[Aus Fox]

10 minutes ago, davieG said:

 

City's Development Squad face Tottenham Hotspur Under-23s at 12pm GMT 🔵 
Here's how the Foxes line up for today's PL2 clash 🦊

I’d go with the same XI away at Zorya

[happy85]

On 17/11/2020 at 07:42, CloudFox said:

Any news on Jacob Wakeling? Thought we were close to signing him from Alvechurch, but all seems to have gone quiet.

On the bench for the U23 today so it appears we have signed him 

[Aleksz]

I’m guessing it’s probably unlikely any of those will travel to Zorya now which is a bit disappointing. 
 

No Tavares though, is he injured?

[Ric Flair]

3 minutes ago, Aleksz said:

I’m guessing it’s probably unlikely any of those will travel to Zorya now which is a bit disappointing. 
 

No Tavares though, is he injured?

Probably isn't, there's never been any regularity or rationale behind Tavares appearances for the U23's.

[goose2010]

7 minutes ago, Aleksz said:

I’m guessing it’s probably unlikely any of those will travel to Zorya now which is a bit disappointing. 
 

No Tavares though, is he injured?

Why? They are playing before the 1st team... So no reason some won't travel. 

[Aleksz]

42 minutes ago, goose2010 said:

Why? They are playing before the 1st team... So no reason some won't travel. 

As much as the whole strict “bubble” theory has been proved to be a bit of a myth, I don’t see them moving into the first team bubble with two days before a game.

 

They’ll have a day of recovery tomorrow anyway and I’d imagine we’ll be flying to Ukraine Wednesday lunch time. So they won’t get time to train with the 1st team.