ealingfox Posted 24 September 2020 Posted 24 September 2020 3 minutes ago, Babylon said: Such as? Villa, Fulham, Sheff Utd, Leeds, Newcastle, Wolves all have higher spends and net spends than us according to Transfermarkt. West Brom and Palace have higher net spends.
Trav Le Bleu Posted 24 September 2020 Posted 24 September 2020 Am I right in thinking that also, the Pope is Catholic?
ealingfox Posted 24 September 2020 Posted 24 September 2020 4 minutes ago, Stadt said: Because their owners spend big. I reckon we didn’t have much of a contingency plan for not making the Champions League do we’ve been left scrabbling Well then our owners need to spend more.
Fox92 Posted 24 September 2020 Posted 24 September 2020 27 minutes ago, Trav Le Bleu said: See that big structure near Lutterworth? That's our training ground, that is. That's not from transfer money. 24 minutes ago, Babylon said: You seem to forget all the money we’ve spent on players and the huge wages we pay. True. Players we can't shift like Slimani and Silva will be on stupid wages.
Xen Posted 24 September 2020 Posted 24 September 2020 He specifically mentions attacking acquisitions, so I'd interpret that to mean that we are still in the market for a CB and that that is the priority. On the presumption that we do manage to bring in a CB (Fofana or Tah, probably), then we'll have done exactly what most of us hoped for prior to the window opening; a new FB to replace Chilwell, an improvement at RW and more depth at CB. A striker was always going to be a luxury at this stage, especially with first-choice Vardy still playing at the top-level meaning any newcomer would most likely be on the bench. Wait until next summer then offload a few of the bigger deadwood contracts (Gray/Slimani/Silva etc) and bring in someone like Edouard (who'll only have 12 months left on his contract next summer), along with signing Ünder permanently. Seems like a pretty solid strategy to me. It took a while to get going but we've had a pretty good window all things considered. And all for a net-spend close to zero.
Guest Manini Posted 24 September 2020 Posted 24 September 2020 2 minutes ago, Fox92 said: That's not from transfer money. True. Players we can't shift like Slimani and Silva will be on stupid wages. The training ground is also nowhere near Lutterworth. Sorry to Trav for being a pedant but local geography is my thing
Muzzy_Larsson Posted 24 September 2020 Posted 24 September 2020 I think if a decent CB is signed you have to be satisfied that this is a good window given the economic state of the world. Castagne looks a star and if Under works out he'll be a huge upgrade out wide. Another striker would have been nice but no club in the land gets everything they want or need in a single window. If this time next year the plan is for another striker and a midfielder then things will be progressing nice and strategically. Worst thing that can happen is to go scattergun in any window, such an approach never works.
Finnegan Posted 24 September 2020 Posted 24 September 2020 The amount of shit housery in a Vardy Mandzukic strike partnership my god
Ric Flair Posted 24 September 2020 Posted 24 September 2020 Just now, Finnegan said: The amount of shit housery in a Vardy Mandzukic strike partnership my god Please make it happen. A one year deal probably costs us about £10m in wages and bits. PAY THE MAN
Raw Dykes Posted 24 September 2020 Posted 24 September 2020 37 minutes ago, Trav Le Bleu said: See that big structure near Lutterworth? That's our training ground, that is. Am I missing something? Seagrave is more or less the opposite end of the county to Lutterworth.
Trav Le Bleu Posted 24 September 2020 Posted 24 September 2020 4 minutes ago, Raw Dykes said: Am I missing something? Seagrave is more or less the opposite end of the county to Lutterworth. I thought it was just before you get to Lutterworth? The opposite end would be Melton.
mod hero Posted 24 September 2020 Posted 24 September 2020 44 minutes ago, Trav Le Bleu said: See that big structure near Lutterworth? That's our training ground, that is. That’s Magna Park mate
Raw Dykes Posted 24 September 2020 Posted 24 September 2020 4 minutes ago, Trav Le Bleu said: I thought it was just before you get to Lutterworth? The opposite end would be Melton. Seagrave's a lot closer to Melton than it is to Lutterworth. Seagrave is near Sileby. Not far from Loughborough.
davieG Posted 24 September 2020 Author Posted 24 September 2020 15 minutes ago, Trav Le Bleu said: I thought it was just before you get to Lutterworth? The opposite end would be Melton. There you are Trav
StriderHiryu Posted 24 September 2020 Posted 24 September 2020 1 hour ago, Fox92 said: Not effecting the big clubs though. Which is probably more the point. Puel said we can't compete with those when he was here, as Cardiff said above he got abused for that, and I think this is what Rodgers means. How can we be limited despite making about 200m in transfers? Surely that money is somewhere? We haven't spent all of it. I guess that money is tied up in: Training Ground, which due to Coivd has been delayed thus probably costing more Planned New Stadium Improvements New contracts and relatively high wage bill compared to other clubs in the division Without being facetious, I do understand why fans question where the money has gone as it does seem like we should have a bigger surplus than we do. But being a business owner myself, I can totally understand why some clubs are being conservative than others. Yesterday's government announcements have serious implications for the economy, so spending beyond your means is very dangerous! In terms of business, Castagne has already proved to be an inspired signing, and I'm happy with the Under signing as it addresses the one area in our team that definitely needed an upgrade. Additional squad depth would certainly be most welcome, but Mendy and Praet deserve a lot of praise as both have stepped up their game this season and both almost feel like new signings. But totally understand why some fans are questioning why we aren't able to spend more.
MPH Posted 24 September 2020 Posted 24 September 2020 it could explain why he was so direct/ abrupt in his description of Grays chances few days ago... he’s the only one we want rid of who ihas any kind of monetary value... need him gone to get a striker!
Leicester_Loyal Posted 24 September 2020 Posted 24 September 2020 I think he's actually being honest, we'll get a CB and if we want anyone else we're going to have to fund that by selling players (that no-one seems to want). We're gonna have to get through this season with the squad we have, with maybe a loanee or two hopefully to come in, then re-assess in the summer and improve the overall squad. I don't think it's been a bad transfer window really, especially considering we've spent about nothing if you factor in the Chilwell sale.
fox in the sox Posted 24 September 2020 Posted 24 September 2020 1 hour ago, Fox92 said: Not effecting the big clubs though. Which is probably more the point. Puel said we can't compete with those when he was here, as Cardiff said above he got abused for that, and I think this is what Rodgers means. How can we be limited despite making about 200m in transfers? Surely that money is somewhere? We haven't spent all of it. Don't forget the likes of Vardy and Maddison have improved contracts, probably 5 million a year, the overall staff wages will be huge.
davieG Posted 24 September 2020 Author Posted 24 September 2020 Source Foxestalk History - https://www.foxestalk.co.uk/history/transfers/ PLAYER CLUB FEE DATE James Justin Luton Town £6,000,000 28.06.2019 Ayoze Perez Newcastle United £30,000,000 04.07.2019 George Hirst OH Leuven Unknown 05.07.2019 Youri Tielemans Monaco £32,000,000 08.07.2019 Dennis Praet Sampdoria £18,400,000 08.08.2019 Ryan Bennett Wolverhampton Wanderers On loan 31.01.2020 Timothy Castagne Atalanta £18,700,000 03.09.2020 Cengiz Under Roma On loan 20.09.2020 8 players bought for £105,100,000 PLAYER CLUB FEE DATE Shinji Okazaki Released Free 30.06.2019 Danny Simpson Released Free 30.06.2019 Daniel Iversen Rotherham United On loan 22.07.2019 Elliott Moore Oxford United £300,000 02.08.2019 Josh Knight Peterborough United On loan 02.08.2019 Harry Maguire Manchester United £80,000,000 05.08.2019 Layton Ndukwu Southend United On loan 07.08.2019 Andy King Rangers On loan 15.08.2019 Islam Slimani Monaco On loan 21.08.2019 Adrien Silva Monaco On loan 23.08.2019 Sam Hughes Salford City On loan 02.09.2019 Rachid Ghezzal Fiorentina On loan 02.09.2019 Fousseni Diabate Amiens On loan 04.09.2019 George Thomas ADO Den Haag On loan 13.01.2020 Andy King Huddersfield Town On loan 16.01.2020 Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall Blackpool On loan 27.01.2020 Filip Benkovic Bristol City On loan 31.01.2020 George Thomas Queens Park Rangers Free 27.07.2020 Andy King Released Free 27.07.2020 Daniel Iversen OH Leuven On loan 11.08.2020 Bartosz Kapustka Legia Warsaw Unknown 13.08.2020 Ben Chilwell Chelsea £45,000,000 26.08.2020 George Hirst Rotherham United On loan 16.09.2020 23 players sold for £125,300,000
Babylon Posted 24 September 2020 Posted 24 September 2020 1 hour ago, ealingfox said: Villa, Fulham, Sheff Utd, Leeds, Newcastle, Wolves all have higher spends and net spends than us according to Transfermarkt. West Brom and Palace have higher net spends. Already going into “net” spends. So loads of newly promoted clubs who don’t have massive wages to pay and have a gigantic leap in income. Do you even bother to think about that? Villa, Leeds and Newcastle are bigger clubs than us. Whether you like it or not. And most of them only spend a couple of million more. How about you run off and compare wages paid. Perhaps then you’ll understand the finances a bit more.
Babylon Posted 24 September 2020 Posted 24 September 2020 1 hour ago, StriderHiryu said: I guess that money is tied up in: Training Ground, which due to Coivd has been delayed thus probably costing more Planned New Stadium Improvements New contracts and relatively high wage bill compared to other clubs in the division Without being facetious, I do understand why fans question where the money has gone as it does seem like we should have a bigger surplus than we do. But being a business owner myself, I can totally understand why some clubs are being conservative than others. Yesterday's government announcements have serious implications for the economy, so spending beyond your means is very dangerous! In terms of business, Castagne has already proved to be an inspired signing, and I'm happy with the Under signing as it addresses the one area in our team that definitely needed an upgrade. Additional squad depth would certainly be most welcome, but Mendy and Praet deserve a lot of praise as both have stepped up their game this season and both almost feel like new signings. But totally understand why some fans are questioning why we aren't able to spend more. Our players sold / bought is pretty even over the years. We invest it into the team. Our other income gets spent mostly on wages, hence being one of the best payers in the league outside the elite.
gw_leics772 Posted 24 September 2020 Posted 24 September 2020 2 hours ago, Ric Flair said: Götze or Mandzukic for the title Is there a ****ing echo on foxes talk? 🤣😘 (you carry on banging that drum son) https://giphy.com/gifs/monkey-business-M8XwGYTShQQjC Shit, how do you insert a gig from t'interweb
Fox92 Posted 24 September 2020 Posted 24 September 2020 1 hour ago, StriderHiryu said: I guess that money is tied up in: Training Ground, which due to Coivd has been delayed thus probably costing more Planned New Stadium Improvements New contracts and relatively high wage bill compared to other clubs in the division Without being facetious, I do understand why fans question where the money has gone as it does seem like we should have a bigger surplus than we do. But being a business owner myself, I can totally understand why some clubs are being conservative than others. Yesterday's government announcements have serious implications for the economy, so spending beyond your means is very dangerous! In terms of business, Castagne has already proved to be an inspired signing, and I'm happy with the Under signing as it addresses the one area in our team that definitely needed an upgrade. Additional squad depth would certainly be most welcome, but Mendy and Praet deserve a lot of praise as both have stepped up their game this season and both almost feel like new signings. But totally understand why some fans are questioning why we aren't able to spend more. Tbf man I'm not criticing or debating your point, I just don't get selling players for 200m and not spending close to that. I understand wages (including new contracts) etc but the club make other money too, such as the biggest incomes from tv rights and the PL, so is that just spent on everything apart from transfers? I mean, none of us actually know and are just speculating, but it's interesting to hear Rodgers say resources are limited.
ealingfox Posted 24 September 2020 Posted 24 September 2020 23 minutes ago, Babylon said: Already going into “net” spends. So loads of newly promoted clubs who don’t have massive wages to pay and have a gigantic leap in income. Do you even bother to think about that? Villa, Leeds and Newcastle are bigger clubs than us. Whether you like it or not. And most of them only spend a couple of million more. How about you run off and compare wages paid. Perhaps then you’ll understand the finances a bit more. I said higher spends and higher net spends. Of course I know about our wages, it's probably the main reason I expect more from this club and don't buy the same guff as others about finishing 12th being decent. I'm just not buying the idea that this is why we are now supposedly some kind of poverty outfit. Villa, Leeds and Newcastle are historically bigger clubs but at this point in time? We've been up for 6 seasons straight, they've all been in the Championship during that time. This higher leap in income is receiving the same money we've been receiving for 5 years. We have higher revenues now because we are presently a bigger deal. It shouldn't be taboo to think that. We have billionaire owners, it's not unreasonable to expect them to put their hands in their pockets. If we're not aspiring to be better what's the point? The problem with circling the drain is eventually you fall in.
Beechey Posted 24 September 2020 Posted 24 September 2020 1 hour ago, StriderHiryu said: I guess that money is tied up in: Training Ground, which due to Coivd has been delayed thus probably costing more Planned New Stadium Improvements New contracts and relatively high wage bill compared to other clubs in the division Without being facetious, I do understand why fans question where the money has gone as it does seem like we should have a bigger surplus than we do. But being a business owner myself, I can totally understand why some clubs are being conservative than others. Yesterday's government announcements have serious implications for the economy, so spending beyond your means is very dangerous! In terms of business, Castagne has already proved to be an inspired signing, and I'm happy with the Under signing as it addresses the one area in our team that definitely needed an upgrade. Additional squad depth would certainly be most welcome, but Mendy and Praet deserve a lot of praise as both have stepped up their game this season and both almost feel like new signings. But totally understand why some fans are questioning why we aren't able to spend more. This is an understatement, we have the second highest wage to revenue ratio in the entire division. In 2018/19 it was 84% of all money our club made went to salaries, behind only Everton at 85%.
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