Kasper Schmeichel

[5waller5]

Pope is way too good for Burnley … and collects crosses!

[weller54]

7 minutes ago, 5waller5 said:

Pope is way too good for Burnley … and collects crosses!

 

[5waller5]

1 minute ago, weller54 said:

 

I’ll set them up, you tap them in!! 

[CrazyKopCorner]

5 hours ago, 5waller5 said:

Pope is way too good for Burnley … and collects crosses!

I like the look of him too and would bring him in

[Jimmy]

I honestly don't know how Mike Stowell keeps his job, Kasper's weaknesses are well known yet never seem to show any sign of being improved up on

[deep blue]

On 17/04/2022 at 17:28, CrazyKopCorner said:

Agreed he is a great stopper. But he’s too unorthodox which means he makes too many mistakes . Shilton was the best technical keeper I’ve ever seen. My dad said Banks was better so he must have been very special.

Shilton was v good and worked v hard at his technique throughout his development, almost certainly with the support of Banks, who was ironically forced out later by Shilton.

 

IMO Banks was the best ever, a complete natural.

 

According to my mate, a Stoke supporter but an astute observer nevertheless , Banks used to dominate his entire penalty area after he left for Stoke, making life so easy for his defenders ... he was phenomenal.

 

As for Schmeichel, a fantastic keeper for us but with a few flaws in his technique.  I feel sure Iversen is being seen as his natural successor, given the long contract he was given and the level of his performances for Preston, but it's tricky to see how that transition will be handled.

[foxile5]

I can't believe we've got a keeper that's done as much for us as Kasper and yet there's a debate over how good he is. 

 

He's the best we are capable of having for the foreseeable and he isn't out to pasture yet. A two year contract would be about right. 

[Foxdiamond]

On 15/04/2022 at 19:05, Les-TA-Jon said:

 

This has come up a lot in recent months. 
 

There’s all sort of debate to be had about who is the better keeper, in a vacuum, between Kasper, Shilton, Banks. 
 

But Kasper has been the greatest keeper for Leicester of all time 

Agree with this. I saw Banks and Shilton and admired both as a youngster. Kasper was central to the greatest moments in our history.

[Foxdiamond]

22 hours ago, MrsJohnMurphy said:

Did Shilton ever save a penalty? He just used to fall over to his left or right

1969 v Liverpool F A Cup

[foxile5]

2 minutes ago, Foxdiamond said:

1969 v Liverpool F A Cup

But what did he do for us lately. 

[String fellow]

Mark Wallington was another very reliable goalkeeper for City, whom people perhaps tend to overlook. After Shilton left, he was an ever-present for 6 seasons running in the late 70s and early 80s. Both of them played in sides that got relegated from the top flight, spent 2 seasons in the old Division 2, then went up again. In Wallington's case, that happened twice.

[dynamark]

Im not keen on all the looking back but Peter Shilton was just great for us and England.I remember his family moved house so Pete didnt get his sleep disturbed living over the shop next to the Club, Sorry to hear of his gambling issues but not the only one

[Les-TA-Jon]

1 hour ago, Foxdiamond said:

Agree with this. I saw Banks and Shilton and admired both as a youngster. Kasper was central to the greatest moments in our history.

Yeah, simply no contest in my eyes. 

[Wymsey]

On 15/04/2022 at 17:46, Dorkingfox said:

And Shilton, Kasper is good but not in the same league as Bank and Shilton who were both world class

At the time, of course.

But reckon if they played now, they'd be on par with Schmeichel.

[SafewayFox]

Similar to how Huth made Morgan a much better CB, having Evans (could argue Fofana too) mask Kasper’s limitations aka commanding his box at set pieces.

 

Not that I feel our scouting (or Rodgers) got it right in the slightest with Vestergaard but could see their flawed logic with him also helping with this issue.

 

Kasper hasn’t all of a sudden become a nervous wreck at collecting crosses/coming off his line it’s just he had players throwing their bodies on the line previously to avoid that weakness leading to us conceding the most goals from set pieces (thanks for highlighting that only a couple of times Sky).

Edited 18 April 2022 by SafewayFox

[Tielemans63]

Anyone else find the Kasper / Banks / Shilton debate really tedious? All great keepers for Leicester in their own right but Shilton played his last game for Leicester 48 years ago and Banks 55 years ago.....it's not a comparison really is it?

[5waller5]

8 hours ago, Jimmy said:

I honestly don't know how Mike Stowell keeps his job, Kasper's weaknesses are well known yet never seem to show any sign of being improved up on

Ten years ago the group of lads I watched the games with used to say exactly this. Keeper’s don’t improve at LCFC

[Aus Fox]

17 minutes ago, 5waller5 said:

Ten years ago the group of lads I watched the games with used to say exactly this. Keeper’s don’t improve at LCFC

Surely even his harshest critic would admit Kasper is a far better keeper now than the one we signed from Leeds. We signed an average Championship goalkeeper who has gone on to be one of the best around. 
Yes he has has faults, all players do. But every season he has improved and every season he has won us many more points than he has cost us.

[5waller5]

18 hours ago, Aus Fox said:

Surely even his harshest critic would admit Kasper is a far better keeper now than the one we signed from Leeds. We signed an average Championship goalkeeper who has gone on to be one of the best around. 
Yes he has has faults, all players do. But every season he has improved and every season he has won us many more points than he has cost us.

Yeah you’ve got a point of course. Over the decade he has of course improved with experience.

 

Has he improved as a result of coaching or that experience though? The static position on the goal line and refusal to put his arms up to collect easy crosses are a result of coaching. He didn’t arrive from Leeds like that. 
 

 

[fuchsntf]

On 18/04/2022 at 22:51, Wymsey said:

At the time, of course.

But reckon if they played now, they'd be on par with Schmeichel.

Sorry I don’t follow tha way of thinking…

Yes environments change in all sports, over the years, but any top level sportsman/woman,born in a past era,were above the norm of their day.

IMO those same sportsmen, if born in todays world  or in 100yrs time, would then take on & automatically be born and developed into that said eras skill-sets,training methods, & the said modern Sport characteristics.

It follows they would then  have the same development, training methods,& knowledge gathered for this period or futures period of time…The basics havent changed that much,

Banks , Shilton, Yashin any  GK,would then by default be born,into that change of ball characteristics…eg: lighter swerving ball or improved pitches.

Their eye- hand coordination , or game awareness’s would be in their DNA. So like they were above the norm in their given sport, so they would be today..Banks/Shilton would not then be Banks/Shilton of the 60s-70s, but the great Banks/Shilton of 2000-2022

The only two pointss, that would make an interesting debate, I can think of,

 

# top & average  GKs of yesteryear especially the greats went in

Mostly head & hands first which was a skill-set of hits own,let alone a question of mental strength ,not like today feet first..

# Very few GK of yesteryear would never think of goalkeeping only from their 6 yard box.
What made Yashin, Banks,Shilton more than most , unique, was their command in the air, & their wider command of their penalty box…

So they are assets, where I do see Shilton/Banks/ Wallington/ Flowers having the upper hand over Schmeicel. the first four mentioned were also world class 1-1 shot-stoppers.

Another proud,unique point for Leicester, of the top 2 divisions, since my time ( late 50s) we have had by far used fewer G.keepers, & any including reserves who have played long periods..We have alway had top goalkeepers..

I believe until recently, from the top 2 divisions both W.Ham & ourselves,

since the 50s got through fewer GKs & Managers.

 

All that said it’s all hyperthetical anyway..

 

Kasper has been ´ our Goalkeeper´ these last 10 years,

I for one have been more than happy & proud he’s served us so well..

 

 

Edited 20 April 2022 by fuchsntf

[PAPA LAZAROU]

On 18/04/2022 at 21:51, Wymsey said:

At the time, of course.

But reckon if they played now, they'd be on par with Schmeichel.

Not a chance. Having seen both Banks and Shilton in action I can tell you good as Schmeichel is he is not and never will be in the same class.

[deep blue]

On 18/04/2022 at 22:31, Tielemans63 said:

Anyone else find the Kasper / Banks / Shilton debate really tedious? All great keepers for Leicester in their own right but Shilton played his last game for Leicester 48 years ago and Banks 55 years ago.....it's not a comparison really is it?

Pointless, maybe, but not tedious at all for us old codgers on the forum.  It helps to rejuvenate old memories.  Someone pointed out that Wallington has been overlooked in this discussion and I remember him too as a fantastic keeper for us.

 

But who can forget, especially if they witnessed it at first hand, Banks' performance in that semifinal where he kept Liverool at bay almost single-handedly.  There was an amusing corollary to that game when a newspaper picture of them trooping off the pitch after the final whistle showed Banks allegedly sneering at St John, nonsense of course, and that was taken up by the outraged Liverpool fans who clung onto that resentment for ages.  The nature of Liverpool fans hasn't changed much over the years ... 

[Fox92]

On 18/04/2022 at 22:31, Tielemans63 said:

Anyone else find the Kasper / Banks / Shilton debate really tedious? All great keepers for Leicester in their own right but Shilton played his last game for Leicester 48 years ago and Banks 55 years ago.....it's not a comparison really is it?

Agreed.

We should just appreciate they all played for us at one point or another.

Dunno why people want to compare everything.

[Heskey2011]

47 minutes ago, Fox92 said:

Agreed.

We should just appreciate they all played for us at one point or another.

Dunno why people want to compare everything.

Nevermind Shilts and Banks it's a different game now than what it was when his dad was playing.

I've played in goal, on and off for 30 years and it astounds me how little people know about goal keeping.

The most knowledgeable people on football in general know absolutely fa about it.  

Just the kicking element, I mean playing in a team with a target man or tall wide players makes it 100× easier to make a successful pass especially when you're under pressure, or just from goal kicks. When we had Paul Gallager out on the left to receive the long balls, Kaspers kicking stats would have been phenomenal.

 

[Ted Maul]

Outrageous save.

 

He's genuinely in the conversation for best shot stopper in the world. As others have said, if the bloke commanded his box then he wouldn't be at Leicester still.