coolhandfox Posted 9 May 2022 Share Posted 9 May 2022 2 hours ago, Bert said: We haven’t. Something drastic needs to happen over the close season. They say they’ve tried everything but it doesn’t seem to have worked. The players shit themselves when we have a corner, the mood in the stand instantly changes too. Sometimes just a break from it can change it. However I think we will be looking a players with more height, power aggression and heading ability, in the summer. We need to be better at set pieces at both ends of the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhandfox Posted 9 May 2022 Share Posted 9 May 2022 2 hours ago, FoxyJim1987 said: Thats where being commanding and using judgement comes in. Top keepers don't stop on their line. Every goalkeeper at any level should be a good shot stopper, that's their job. It's like saying a defender is good at heading, it's a minimum requirement. It's like tackling in the box, it's calculated risk, maybe sometimes a mistake is made a pen is given away or in a keepers case, you might miss a pinch or be beaten to the ball, but his current tactic of being ganged up on the goal line whilst someone heads at goal from inside the 6 yard box si not working. He needs a better starting position off his line ready to claim. I guarantee if he came out and tried to catch or punch more balls, we wouldn't have conceded anywhere near as much. It's not just Kasper's fault though, some of the marking (or lack of it) has been terrible, but too many balls come in within his range which he doesn't even attempt to deal with. Watch he interview on Ben Foster channel, some interesting bit from both of them about claiming high balls. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HankMarvin Posted 9 May 2022 Share Posted 9 May 2022 2 hours ago, Rob1742 said: There is pros and cons for each. The positive in staying on the line is if any header does happen from a striker, you are in a good position to save it. If you have gone out and say got a hand to it, you are off your line and out of position. I wouldn’t say having a keeper who is a stayer is a bad thing, we won the league with this style and the likes of Huth and Morgan would know it’s upto them to deal with it, which they invariably did. We didn’t he had 42 high claims that year currently on 12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bourbon Fox Posted 9 May 2022 Share Posted 9 May 2022 1 hour ago, coolhandfox said: Watch he interview on Ben Foster channel, some interesting bit from both of them about claiming high balls. Starts about 5:15 on corners Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeg67 Posted 10 May 2022 Share Posted 10 May 2022 1 hour ago, HankMarvin said: We didn’t he had 42 high claims that year currently on 12 And that was also a year we had two of the most physically imposing defenders in the prem start pretty much every game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nod.E Posted 10 May 2022 Share Posted 10 May 2022 5 hours ago, FoxyJim1987 said: Thats where being commanding and using judgement comes in. Top keepers don't stop on their line. Every goalkeeper at any level should be a good shot stopper, that's their job. It's like saying a defender is good at heading, it's a minimum requirement. It's like tackling in the box, it's calculated risk, maybe sometimes a mistake is made a pen is given away or in a keepers case, you might miss a pinch or be beaten to the ball, but his current tactic of being ganged up on the goal line whilst someone heads at goal from inside the 6 yard box si not working. He needs a better starting position off his line ready to claim. I guarantee if he came out and tried to catch or punch more balls, we wouldn't have conceded anywhere near as much. It's not just Kasper's fault though, some of the marking (or lack of it) has been terrible, but too many balls come in within his range which he doesn't even attempt to deal with. Ederson isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeg67 Posted 10 May 2022 Share Posted 10 May 2022 6 minutes ago, Nod.E said: Ederson isn't. He’s fine. Probably average for starting keepers at this level (which is what the stats say). But Ederson is so aggressive and smart about it that he stops a lot of attacks before they ever become shots. He’s one of the reasons they concede so few shots. I think a keeper like Ederson who is so good at other aspects of the job can have his shot-stopping ability be perceived as worse than it actually is. Just as one who’s bad at those other aspects can have theirs perceived to be better than it actually is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nod.E Posted 10 May 2022 Share Posted 10 May 2022 17 minutes ago, Deeg67 said: He’s fine. Probably average for starting keepers at this level (which is what the stats say). But Ederson is so aggressive and smart about it that he stops a lot of attacks before they ever become shots. He’s one of the reasons they concede so few shots. I think a keeper like Ederson who is so good at other aspects of the job can have his shot-stopping ability be perceived as worse than it actually is. Just as one who’s bad at those other aspects can have theirs perceived to be better than it actually is. I don't disagree that he's fantastic in other areas. He's probably the best in one on one scenarios, and while of course those stops count as 'saves', it isn't shot stopping in the classic sense of acrobatics and reflexes. I haven't watched every game he's ever played in, but I've seen plenty and honestly I have never seen him make a single reflex save that I would class as above average. Shots regularly go through and fly past him but it doesn't get picked up because pundits aren't goalkeepers. Meanwhile his diving technique is absolutely awful (lack of footwork.) Now granted, Leicester concede more shots than Manchester City, and I watch more of LCFC than MCFC, too, but Kasper makes saves almost on a weekly basis that I have never seen Ederson make. For what it's worth, I agree that Kasper isn't at his best from an aerial stand point and it's one of the reasons we struggle. Just don't take his shot stopping for granted. It isn't normal. Many keepers are much worse and very few are better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
when_you're_smiling Posted 10 May 2022 Share Posted 10 May 2022 Every other thread - we need more leaders. This thread - let’s get rid of one of our leaders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoneticerror Posted 10 May 2022 Share Posted 10 May 2022 (edited) 11 hours ago, Dahnsouff said: No idea why, but could just see playing in the CL for some Danish side, has a sort of romantic symmetry (I know it doesn’t, but….) He was on Fozcast a few weeks ago and said his career goals are to get back into the CL and win something for Denmark. He isn’t getting into CL with us in the next few years and he isn’t getting any younger. I think it’ll be mutually beneficial to part ways, as long as we can put some cash into a young keeper with a quick reaction this summer. He’s been great, but we have to say goodbye soon and he just hasn’t been on form this season. Edited 10 May 2022 by phoneticerror 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
escape2victory Posted 10 May 2022 Share Posted 10 May 2022 I think with us having a bit of a refresh and bringing in potentially 5-6 players, we need to keep the leaders like Schmeichel, Vardy and Albrighton in and around the squad to bed the new players in, to make sure the culture and the standards are there and set. With Schmeichels contract then running out the following summer, it would be beneficial then for both parties to go seperate ways, hopefully leave on a bit of a high, and we can integrate a new number 1 the following summer when hopefully the turnover of player won’t be as high as this summer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col city fan Posted 10 May 2022 Share Posted 10 May 2022 54 minutes ago, escape2victory said: I think with us having a bit of a refresh and bringing in potentially 5-6 players, we need to keep the leaders like Schmeichel, Vardy and Albrighton in and around the squad to bed the new players in, to make sure the culture and the standards are there and set. With Schmeichels contract then running out the following summer, it would be beneficial then for both parties to go seperate ways, hopefully leave on a bit of a high, and we can integrate a new number 1 the following summer when hopefully the turnover of player won’t be as high as this summer Exactly this I’ll say again.. having to play behind a CB pairing of Soyuncu and Amartey for most of this season, it’s only been Schmeichel that’s kept the goals conceded from being even worse due to many many top saves. It must be so deflating looking forward and seeing you’ve got the two ronnies playing in front of you We need a better defence . Said it at the start of the season and saying it again now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It'sblueupnorth Posted 10 May 2022 Share Posted 10 May 2022 53 minutes ago, Col city fan said: Exactly this I’ll say again.. having to play behind a CB pairing of Soyuncu and Amartey for most of this season, it’s only been Schmeichel that’s kept the goals conceded from being even worse due to many many top saves. It must be so deflating looking forward and seeing you’ve got the two ronnies playing in front of you We need a better defence . Said it at the start of the season and saying it again now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trabuch Posted 10 May 2022 Share Posted 10 May 2022 I assume he had some say in the Vestegaard signing? It would have been very remiss not have have asked for his opinion on him. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HankMarvin Posted 10 May 2022 Share Posted 10 May 2022 2 hours ago, Col city fan said: Exactly this I’ll say again.. having to play behind a CB pairing of Soyuncu and Amartey for most of this season, it’s only been Schmeichel that’s kept the goals conceded from being even worse due to many many top saves. It must be so deflating looking forward and seeing you’ve got the two ronnies playing in front of you We need a better defence . Said it at the start of the season and saying it again now Two Ronnies? both 6.1 and interestingly enough Soyuncu 17th in headed clearances in the League Amartery 30th in 24 appearances Last season, when Fofana and Evans were first choices we still had the joint worse defensive record for corners. They both finished that season 20/21 joint 25th in headed clearances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col city fan Posted 10 May 2022 Share Posted 10 May 2022 33 minutes ago, HankMarvin said: Two Ronnies? both 6.1 and interestingly enough Soyuncu 17th in headed clearances in the League Amartery 30th in 24 appearances Last season, when Fofana and Evans were first choices we still had the joint worse defensive record for corners. They both finished that season 20/21 joint 25th in headed clearances. Don’t it show just how stats can be manipulated and in some cases not show the true picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Fresh Posted 10 May 2022 Share Posted 10 May 2022 Col thinking we're gonna have 4/5 Fofana standard players knocking about the squad for 2/3 postions I see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HankMarvin Posted 10 May 2022 Share Posted 10 May 2022 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Col city fan said: Don’t it show just how stats can be manipulated and in some cases not show the true picture Not really, if anything it shows that peoples excuses of the defenders heading abilities being the issue to be null and void. 2 sets of defenders over 2 seasons with defenders in the top 30 for heading. So if the the defenders have been changed and defensive styles have been tried, zonal and Man to Man and the problems still persist, what is left to change? Edited 10 May 2022 by HankMarvin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An Sionnach Posted 10 May 2022 Share Posted 10 May 2022 Anybody who thinks Kasper is as good now as he was five years ago is kidding themselves and if he thinks it then so is he. His reactions remain lightening fast but other aspects of his game have regressed. Football can be a sentimental game but I think we need to move on. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcfc old boy Posted 10 May 2022 Share Posted 10 May 2022 how much do you think we would get for him ,and who would buy him after the season the defence has had , personally i think if we decided to let kasper go it would be a free transfer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaspa Posted 10 May 2022 Share Posted 10 May 2022 1 minute ago, lcfc old boy said: how much do you think we would get for him ,and who would buy him after the season the defence has had , personally i think if we decided to let kasper go it would be a free transfer. Anyone can sign Kasper on a free in a year unless he signs a new contract here. We pay him generously at the moment, but to be fair he's earned it. So most likely given his comments about wanting Champions League, unless we miraculously qualify next season and form is improved collectively, he'll be off for free in 13 months. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jimmy Posted 10 May 2022 Popular Post Share Posted 10 May 2022 7 hours ago, when_you're_smiling said: Every other thread - we need more leaders. This thread - let’s get rid of one of our leaders. he's not a leader, even when a goal is clearly his fault he's blaming the defenders in front of him 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FOXYTALK Posted 10 May 2022 Share Posted 10 May 2022 Feel like he's content knowing no one is really going to push him out of the starting job. Really need a quality keeper next season (Iversen or another) to push him. Happy to sell Ward for 5mil. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee7 Posted 10 May 2022 Share Posted 10 May 2022 Kasper definitely has a future here at the club. I think the main thing is that he needs a young hungry goalkeeper pushing him for his place. If that happens then you'll see his performances improve. He knows that Ward isn't good enough to replace him so can get away with making mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcfc old boy Posted 10 May 2022 Share Posted 10 May 2022 1 hour ago, Jaspa said: Anyone can sign Kasper on a free in a year unless he signs a new contract here. We pay him generously at the moment, but to be fair he's earned it. So most likely given his comments about wanting Champions League, unless we miraculously qualify next season and form is improved collectively, he'll be off for free in 13 months. so which champions league team would sign him do you think , taking into consideration how much he gets paid here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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