Yellow Cards

[davieG]

Merc - https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/handball-wasnt-given-what-schmeichel-4728167

 

Rank the Premier League clubs for fouls per game, and you could argue that City are one of the cleanest sides in the division. Their 88 fouls in nine games ranks them 19th, with Arsenal, on 87 fouls, the only side below them.

But when it comes to yellow cards, City top the charts on 21. That’s already more than double their total tally of 41 from last season, which was the second fewest in the division.

As for why City are picking up a disproportionate number of bookings for their fouls, it could be a case that they are pressing more in the defensive third, rather than higher up the pitch, and so conceding fouls in more dangerous areas could make referees more likely to reach for their pocket.

 

Also, they could just be unfortunate, like James Justin was. He slid in and took the ball from James Milner on the left flank, but was penalised and booked for the follow through. It would have been lauded as a superb tackle 20 years ago.

On Sunday, Liverpool committed 15 fouls and received no bookings. City committed six and received two.

[AKCJ]

The Justin yellow was a superb tackle yesterday never mind 20 years ago. Ridiculous yellow.

[jayfox26]

Some teams have mastered stopping teams from playing by constantly doing niggly fouls that arent often worthy of yellows but stop teams building momentum. We dont seem to this but seem to pick up yellows for last ditch tackles when teams are breaking on us

[peach0000]

We are a bit naive sometimes. I would like us to be dirtier and commit tactical fouls like Liverpool and Man City do but we seem to be too nice and not wise enough to do it. Essentially when the opposition gets the ball you need to win it back straight away or foul them. That way you may give away more fouls but they won't be in areas that will get yellow cards but is very effective at stopping the opposition from playing.

[Wasyls Pec Deck]

My take home message from this is that we need to practice our shithousery

[Spudulike]

Great tackle 

 

 

[AjcW]

Worst bit about that is it was on Milner who probably thought it was a brilliant tackle 

[sacreblueits442]

1 hour ago, davieG said:

Merc - https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/handball-wasnt-given-what-schmeichel-4728167

 

Rank the Premier League clubs for fouls per game, and you could argue that City are one of the cleanest sides in the division. Their 88 fouls in nine games ranks them 19th, with Arsenal, on 87 fouls, the only side below them.

But when it comes to yellow cards, City top the charts on 21. That’s already more than double their total tally of 41 from last season, which was the second fewest in the division.

As for why City are picking up a disproportionate number of bookings for their fouls, it could be a case that they are pressing more in the defensive third, rather than higher up the pitch, and so conceding fouls in more dangerous areas could make referees more likely to reach for their pocket.

 

Also, they could just be unfortunate, like James Justin was. He slid in and took the ball from James Milner on the left flank, but was penalised and booked for the follow through. It would have been lauded as a superb tackle 20 years ago.

On Sunday, Liverpool committed 15 fouls and received no bookings. City committed six and received two.

...noticed that earlier in the season and posted to that effect!!!

  The reason that I surmise for the yellow cards were the need we had to execute a professional foul (taking one for the team). We seem to do it a lot and more or less accepted that it is a necessary and appropriate action within the game. We are getting caught out a lot and taking this action has won us games but could in the end be counter productive.

  

[messerschmitt]

Would love to know why the James one was a yellow card, was it a mistake from the official?

[Corky]

We're too naive. The top sides are adept at breaking the play up early and spreading the fouls around so one player doesn't get noticed too much.

 

15 fouls and no bookings tells it's own story.

[messerschmitt]

1 hour ago, davieG said:

Merc - https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/handball-wasnt-given-what-schmeichel-4728167

 

Rank the Premier League clubs for fouls per game, and you could argue that City are one of the cleanest sides in the division. Their 88 fouls in nine games ranks them 19th, with Arsenal, on 87 fouls, the only side below them.

But when it comes to yellow cards, City top the charts on 21. That’s already more than double their total tally of 41 from last season, which was the second fewest in the division.

As for why City are picking up a disproportionate number of bookings for their fouls, it could be a case that they are pressing more in the defensive third, rather than higher up the pitch, and so conceding fouls in more dangerous areas could make referees more likely to reach for their pocket.

 

Also, they could just be unfortunate, like James Justin was. He slid in and took the ball from James Milner on the left flank, but was penalised and booked for the follow through. It would have been lauded as a superb tackle 20 years ago.

On Sunday, Liverpool committed 15 fouls and received no bookings. City committed six and received two.

Just re-read this, so Justin was booked for the follow through. I've seen plenty of takles where the ball gets played and theres then contact this season and no fould been given?

[messerschmitt]

When Ederson took Iheanacho out Dermott Gallagher said on Sky that it wasn't a penalty because "contact was inevitable" isn't the Justin tackle the same?

[peach0000]

5 minutes ago, messerschmitt said:

Would love to know why the James one was a yellow card, was it a mistake from the official?

I don't agree with the rule but it was because his trailing leg followed through. In todays game you do get booked for that but I personally think you shouldn't.

[Dan]

2 hours ago, AKCJ said:

The Justin yellow was a superb tackle yesterday never mind 20 years ago. Ridiculous yellow.

Another typical Kavanagh decision. The refs in this league are total shit.

[HighPeakFox]

13 minutes ago, peach0000 said:

I don't agree with the rule but it was because his trailing leg followed through. In todays game you do get booked for that but I personally think you shouldn't.

How is his trailing leg supposed to not follow through? (rhetorical, I'm in agreement with you)

[RobHawk]

The Mendy booking was the correct decision, I think we can all agree that. But a few mins later there was a tackle from a Liverpool player which resulted in a similar studs down the back of the ankle that was only a free kick. I can't remember exactly who it was but I remember thinking it should have been a booking.

 

There were a couple of others that not ally would be bookings that weren't given. I assumed it was just Liverpool/home bias tbh.

[Aus Fox]

3 hours ago, davieG said:

Merc - https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/handball-wasnt-given-what-schmeichel-4728167

 

Rank the Premier League clubs for fouls per game, and you could argue that City are one of the cleanest sides in the division. Their 88 fouls in nine games ranks them 19th, with Arsenal, on 87 fouls, the only side below them.

But when it comes to yellow cards, City top the charts on 21. That’s already more than double their total tally of 41 from last season, which was the second fewest in the division.

As for why City are picking up a disproportionate number of bookings for their fouls, it could be a case that they are pressing more in the defensive third, rather than higher up the pitch, and so conceding fouls in more dangerous areas could make referees more likely to reach for their pocket.

 

Also, they could just be unfortunate, like James Justin was. He slid in and took the ball from James Milner on the left flank, but was penalised and booked for the follow through. It would have been lauded as a superb tackle 20 years ago.

On Sunday, Liverpool committed 15 fouls and received no bookings. City committed six and received two.

21 is already more than double 41? Who writes this crap? and who does the Maths? 
Someone genuinely received payment for writing and editing this rubbish?

[messerschmitt]

39 minutes ago, RobHawk said:

The Mendy booking was the correct decision, I think we can all agree that. But a few mins later there was a tackle from a Liverpool player which resulted in a similar studs down the back of the ankle that was only a free kick. I can't remember exactly who it was but I remember thinking it should have been a booking.

 

There were a couple of others that not ally would be bookings that weren't given. I assumed it was just Liverpool/home bias tbh.

There was tackle on Fuchs that he wasn't happy about that put holes down the back of his sock.

[HighPeakFox]

3 hours ago, Aus Fox said:

21 is already more than double 41? Who writes this crap? and who does the Maths? 
Someone genuinely received payment for writing and editing this rubbish?

I suspect he means 'more than half'.

[shailen]

We're doing less pressing, more defending and conceding more possession than last season so we're more likely to pick up bookings as we'll be fouling more close to our box, and therefore more fouls are likely to pick up yellow cards. 

[NaijaFox]

12 minutes ago, shailen said:

We're doing less pressing, more defending and conceding more possession than last season so we're more likely to pick up bookings as we'll be fouling more close to our box, and therefore more fouls are likely to pick up yellow cards. 

But (according to the article) we are committing LESS fouls (19th out of the 20 EPL teams) but somehow picking up MORE yellows (1st out of 20).

[coolhandfox]

17 hours ago, Corky said:

We're too naive. The top sides are adept at breaking the play up early and spreading the fouls around so one player doesn't get noticed too much.

 

15 fouls and no bookings tells it's own story.

I was amazed Liverpool didn't pick up a booking, they are masters of the dark arts.

 

[justfoxes]

1 hour ago, coolhandfox said:

I was amazed Liverpool didn't pick up a booking, they are masters of the dark arts.

 

What do you expect when the Premier League bend over backwards for Liverpool, you knew it wouldn’t be a fairly officiated game when Liverpool had Cootes removed from VAR duties and Kavanagh was the ref?

We had some unlucky yellow card on Sunday JJ’s was a joke the others just blurred into hilarity, and the hand ball by Matip that Kavanagh didn’t even check with VAR makes you think it was fixed ?

[volpeazzurro]

21 hours ago, Spudulike said:

Great tackle 

 

 

That for me was a top challenge nowhere near worth of a free kick let's alone a booking!

[sacreblueits442]

50 minutes ago, volpeazzurro said:

That for me was a top challenge nowhere near worth of a free kick let's alone a booking!

..it seems without a crowd the officials are still intimidated!!!

Just goes to show, they are more afraid of Klopp than doing their job right.