Ricardo Pereira

[Jobyfox]

22 minutes ago, AjcW said:

I can see him playing further up to be honest, less impact on him and balance us out more with a lack of Abdul?

Yep!  Normally I'm not in favour of playing players out of their best position but, when you consider our wide options are currently Ayew and BDCR, Ricardo sounds a credible option. He also brings some flexibility in that he can contribute in a few positions 

[StriderHiryu]

Ricardo from 2019 would be devestating in the system we use now, as a fullback who becomes a winger when we attack. His attacking output is good enough to do it. However, I am not sure the one of today could get up and down as much as he needs to. Kristiansen was massively at fault for the second goal against Arsenal, but he puts in a massive shift every game to support attack and defence, if Mavididi ever passed it to him.

 

I agree with @Jobyfox above that in the current system, I probably would have him instead of Bobby Reid, or at least rotate them. In terms of technical quality, Ricardo is still one of the best at the club.

[lcfc_forever]

4 minutes ago, StriderHiryu said:

Ricardo from 2019 would be devestating in the system we use now, as a fullback who becomes a winger when we attack. His attacking output is good enough to do it. However, I am not sure the one of today could get up and down as much as he needs to. Kristiansen was massively at fault for the second goal against Arsenal, but he puts in a massive shift every game to support attack and defence, if Mavididi ever passed it to him.

 

I agree with @Jobyfox above that in the current system, I probably would have him instead of Bobby Reid, or at least rotate them. In terms of technical quality, Ricardo is still one of the best at the club.

@StriderHiryu I saw your class analysis on BTG yesterday. I know Ayew gets pelters but we conceded both goals after he came off. 

 

I don't think it was just coincidence, Mavididi simply just doesn't cover Kristiansen enough which I think is why he isn't starting.

 

We conceded vs Fulham similarly where Kristiansen was too central, and there was no cover from the winger. What do you think? 

 

I think this is RVD's dilemma - to stick or twist with a more attacking shape that leaves us vulnerable. Maybe Riccy P can do both and give us more security on the right, while keeping Ayew on the left? Who would you favour on the left? Fatawu's defensive game was underrated, we miss him so much. 

[LVFox]

We play wide midfielders rather than wingers don't we. A 4-4-1-1.

 

He's a right midfielder in that system and would really add something to us if it's possible to get him fit while we still have a chance.

[StriderHiryu]

2 minutes ago, lcfc_forever said:

@StriderHiryu I saw your class analysis on BTG yesterday. I know Ayew gets pelters but we conceded both goals after he came off. 

 

I don't think it was just coincidence, Mavididi simply just doesn't cover Kristiansen enough which I think is why he isn't starting.

 

We conceded vs Fulham similarly where Kristiansen was too central, and there was no cover from the winger. What do you think? 

 

I think this is RVD's dilemma - to stick or twist with a more attacking shape that leaves us vulnerable. Maybe Riccy P can do both and give us more security on the right, while keeping Ayew on the left? Who would you favour on the left? Fatawu's defensive game was underrated, we miss him so much. 

 

Glad you enjoyed it! I am going to link it here for anyone else that wants to see it.

 

Regarding Ayew, yes you are correct. He seems in the team ahead of Mavididi and Buonanotte because he works harder off the ball. He's also better aerially, which makes us better defending set pieces and also as an outlet from a long ball. His attacking output is poor, this we all know, but look at how much more secure we were defensively in this game compared to the Arsenal game where Cooper was in charge. It's just a shame that individual errors at the back make that hard work irrelevant.

 

That said Kristiansen and the positioning of our fullback in general needs to be looked at, as it's happened to both fullbacks multiple times times this season. For Merino's second goal, he literally looked at Merino twice and ignored him! Not sure what he was thinking there to be honest.

 

As for the left hand side, against West Ham we had El Khannouss on the left in the first half with Buonanotte in the middle. I'd be tempted to try that again as I feel like that puts two of our better attacking players on the pitch. But as you say, RVD has a dilemma to which there is no good solution. When you see that Everton signed Ilman Ndiyae for £17m, it makes the Skipp signing baffling. Yunus Akgun returned to Galatasaray so we knew we needed at least one winger. Ayew and Reid are not wingers!

 

 

 

[Ghanaian Prince]

I'm not sure we can pin much hope on Riccy P

He's going to take a while to get going

That being said, I hope this can be a real boost for the squad and we can get glimpses of the old Riccy P

[FoxinNotts]

Be good to have him back, in full flow and up to speed, for the run in games including Wolves, Southampton and Ipswich!

All we have to do now is, stay in touch with these three teams, get Riccy on the pitch, make sure Coulibaly is a genius at left back, ready for Riccy to slot in at right back, and work out out to score a shed load more goals, and not concede a bag full at the other end.

 

 

Simple really 

Edited 19 February by FoxinNotts

[pmcla26]

He’s an inverted right-back or an 8 in a 3 now. I don’t think he’d be very effective on the wing these days for the same reason’s he wouldn’t be very effective as an overlapping full-back. 
 

I doubt he’ll get much game time under Ruud. 

Edited 19 February by pmcla26

[lcfc_forever]

50 minutes ago, StriderHiryu said:

 

Glad you enjoyed it! I am going to link it here for anyone else that wants to see it.

 

Regarding Ayew, yes you are correct. He seems in the team ahead of Mavididi and Buonanotte because he works harder off the ball. He's also better aerially, which makes us better defending set pieces and also as an outlet from a long ball. His attacking output is poor, this we all know, but look at how much more secure we were defensively in this game compared to the Arsenal game where Cooper was in charge. It's just a shame that individual errors at the back make that hard work irrelevant.

 

That said Kristiansen and the positioning of our fullback in general needs to be looked at, as it's happened to both fullbacks multiple times times this season. For Merino's second goal, he literally looked at Merino twice and ignored him! Not sure what he was thinking there to be honest.

 

As for the left hand side, against West Ham we had El Khannouss on the left in the first half with Buonanotte in the middle. I'd be tempted to try that again as I feel like that puts two of our better attacking players on the pitch. But as you say, RVD has a dilemma to which there is no good solution. When you see that Everton signed Ilman Ndiyae for £17m, it makes the Skipp signing baffling. Yunus Akgun returned to Galatasaray so we knew we needed at least one winger. Ayew and Reid are not wingers!

 

 

 

Thanks for the detailed response! 

 

Agree with you, and Bilal puts a shift in as well so can provide cover on the left while allowing Facu to roam. His link up with Vardy was key at the start of the season, would be great to rekindle that. 

[StanSP]

Can he play CB instead of Faes? 

[Tuna]

Will be good to see Riccy back involved again, criminal how Cooper barely used him.

[FosseSpark]

cant be underestimated how big losing Ricardo and Fatawu has been to our season.

not as big as having 'see no evil, chase no evil' combo centre half for most the season.

but big

[kenny]

10 hours ago, StanSP said:

Can he play CB instead of Faes? 

Justin could.

[FLAN]

15 hours ago, StriderHiryu said:

 

Glad you enjoyed it! I am going to link it here for anyone else that wants to see it.

 

Regarding Ayew, yes you are correct. He seems in the team ahead of Mavididi and Buonanotte because he works harder off the ball. He's also better aerially, which makes us better defending set pieces and also as an outlet from a long ball. His attacking output is poor, this we all know, but look at how much more secure we were defensively in this game compared to the Arsenal game where Cooper was in charge. It's just a shame that individual errors at the back make that hard work irrelevant.

 

That said Kristiansen and the positioning of our fullback in general needs to be looked at, as it's happened to both fullbacks multiple times times this season. For Merino's second goal, he literally looked at Merino twice and ignored him! Not sure what he was thinking there to be honest.

 

As for the left hand side, against West Ham we had El Khannouss on the left in the first half with Buonanotte in the middle. I'd be tempted to try that again as I feel like that puts two of our better attacking players on the pitch. But as you say, RVD has a dilemma to which there is no good solution. When you see that Everton signed Ilman Ndiyae for £17m, it makes the Skipp signing baffling. Yunus Akgun returned to Galatasaray so we knew we needed at least one winger. Ayew and Reid are not wingers!

 

 

 

Taking it to the most basic level we have a very big issue with defenders being unable or unwilling to close attacking player spaces down even when we have a numerical advantage. For me that comes from a lack of accountability which is obvious when you see hardly any reaction to conceding. 

[Stadt]

55 minutes ago, kenny said:

Justin could.

He’s been awful at RB, at CB it’d be disastrous 

[Jazzy_Jeff]

If we can get 20 mins out of him every week that’s a win. 
 

Whether that be at fullback, centre mid or on the wing he will improve us if he’s on the pitch. 
 

We can’t rely on him physically for longer than that but if used well he would be an asset 

[Sol thewall Bamba]

Unconvinced that he'll make a huge difference after yet another injury. Still, better to have the option that not.

[lcfc sheff]

He is not the fullback of old. 

[st albans fox]

From what we’re told, woyo is a physical specimen who is super fit.  We play a system where one of the full backs has to get up and down the whole game.   JJ struggled with this and VK looked shot last Saturday late on.  Maybe woyo can cope with it which could mean the left back slot can be less stressful for whoever plays there.  Ricky never looked happy on the right when played higher up as he was a player who liked to have the game infront of him and to run onto or with the ball.   Perhaps he’s at a stage of his career where he can do that now and also cover effectively on transition for woyo if he goes too high. 

[CosbehFox]

Centre midfield

[Leeds Fox]

18 hours ago, StriderHiryu said:

Ricardo from 2019 would be devestating in the system we use now, as a fullback who becomes a winger when we attack. His attacking output is good enough to do it. However, I am not sure the one of today could get up and down as much as he needs to. Kristiansen was massively at fault for the second goal against Arsenal, but he puts in a massive shift every game to support attack and defence, if Mavididi ever passed it to him.

 

I agree with @Jobyfox above that in the current system, I probably would have him instead of Bobby Reid, or at least rotate them. In terms of technical quality, Ricardo is still one of the best at the club.

I’ve said it many times, but the role our full backs play means they’re pretty much always on a hiding to nothing. This comes down to the whole side being poor (high turnover of possession).

 

The distance they cover, at pace must be draining for even the fittest players.

 

To get forward and get back relentlessly and be able to be in the position they want, engage opponents or come up with a quality ball is borderline impossible.

 

Put almost any decent fullback/wingback in their place and they’d struggle. The ones in better sides look good as a product of the teams performance/dominance. 

 

 

[dmayne7]

18 hours ago, StriderHiryu said:

Ricardo from 2019 would be devestating in the system we use now, as a fullback who becomes a winger when we attack. His attacking output is good enough to do it. However, I am not sure the one of today could get up and down as much as he needs to. Kristiansen was massively at fault for the second goal against Arsenal, but he puts in a massive shift every game to support attack and defence, if Mavididi ever passed it to him.

 

I agree with @Jobyfox above that in the current system, I probably would have him instead of Bobby Reid, or at least rotate them. In terms of technical quality, Ricardo is still one of the best at the club.

2019 Ricardo is any system, and pretty much any position would be devastating. I think people forget just how ridiculous he was. Far too good for us.

 

As others have said, I think his role is probably as a more conservative full back now or as a midfielder in a 3

[Sol thewall Bamba]

30 minutes ago, CosbehFox said:

Centre midfield

Not a chance in this league unfortunately. 

[dmayne7]

8 minutes ago, Leeds Fox said:

I’ve said it many times, but the role our full backs play means they’re pretty much always on a hiding to nothing. This comes down to the whole side being poor (high turnover of possession).

 

The distance they cover, at pace must be draining for even the fittest players.

 

To get forward and get back relentlessly and be able to be in the position they want, engage opponents or come up with a quality ball is borderline impossible.

 

Put almost any decent fullback/wingback in their place and they’d struggle. The ones in better sides look good as a product of the teams performance/dominance. 

 

 

Spot on. I've said the same thing too. Justin has obviously not had a good season but some of the blame attributed to him has been way over the top. Watch him closely and he's basically being asked to provide the attacking output on the right and the amount of times he's left 2 on 1 defensively (sometimes even 3 on 1), and it's embarrassing. That trend has continued from Cooper's time to RVN and it's only the last few weeks that he's had a bit more cover, and surprise surprise, he's looking way better. The problem with that is that it's meant playing BDR who offers absolutely nothing going forward.

[Leeds Fox]

1 hour ago, dmayne7 said:

Spot on. I've said the same thing too. Justin has obviously not had a good season but some of the blame attributed to him has been way over the top. Watch him closely and he's basically being asked to provide the attacking output on the right and the amount of times he's left 2 on 1 defensively (sometimes even 3 on 1), and it's embarrassing. That trend has continued from Cooper's time to RVN and it's only the last few weeks that he's had a bit more cover, and surprise surprise, he's looking way better. The problem with that is that it's meant playing BDR who offers absolutely nothing going forward.

Yeah! Also, I’m not necessarily saying they’re good players, but they are being asked to do a tough job.