Not The Politics Thread.

[Mapperleyfox]

Johnson has the integrity and morals of a ****ing slug. He can't even be arsed to answer a direct question. Arrogance beyond belief.

[FoxesDeb]

31 minutes ago, Legend_in_blue said:

Possibly.

 

It is cherry picking of data though to show what they want it to show.

 

For instance, the case rate in S Africa has also increased due to double the numbers being tested in comparison to last month.  This is then omitted from the trend that is shown.

I guess it's easier to spot when it's something someone does so often themselves 

 

[UniFox21]

3 minutes ago, Ginger_Filbert said:

This is exactly why the tories win election after election. There is no opposition. 
 

You can't really  object to the plan when wanting a little more protection to slow developments we've seen in other countries. 

You can kick up a shit tonne about timing and the circumstances however

[SexyGammonFox]

1 minute ago, Mapperleyfox said:

Johnson has the integrity and morals of a ****ing slug. He can't even be arsed to answer a direct question. Arrogance beyond belief.

Are slugs renowned for their flawed morality?!

[Corky]

Labour gain nothing from objecting to this. They aren't particularly stringent.

[Ginger_Filbert]

1 minute ago, UniFox21 said:

You can't really  object to the plan when wanting a little more protection to slow developments we've seen in other countries. 

You can kick up a shit tonne about timing and the circumstances however

If the opposition was to object to the vaccine passports side of it, it would get them huge support. 

[UniFox21]

1 minute ago, Ginger_Filbert said:

If the opposition was to object to the vaccine passports side of it, it would get them huge support. 

They've reworded it to be a covid passport now, allowing for negative test or vaccination. That removes much of the vaccine passport objection

[Mike Oxlong]

 

 

Edited 8 December 2021 by Mike Oxlong

[Scotch]

What I don't understand is why they are lying about WHEN that Allegra Stratton Press "reheasal" took place.

 

They are saying it was Dec 22 but it clearly wasn't. The press room didn't look like that untill more recently...

 

*edit after a bit of digging*

 

March/April they started using that new briefing room that she was filmed in. 

Edited 8 December 2021 by Scotch

[weller54]

10 minutes ago, Ginger_Filbert said:

If the opposition was to object to the vaccine passports side of it, it would get them huge support. 

There's a very simple way to get the unvaccinated think long and hard about their reluctance....

Any unvaccinated person needing treatment for covid...

PAY for all the treatment/hospital care they may need.

Simples.

[st albans fox]

15 minutes ago, Scotch said:

What I don't understand is why they are lying about WHEN that Allegra Stratton Press "reheasal" took place.

 

They are saying it was Dec 22 but it clearly wasn't. The press room didn't look like that untill more recently...

How recently do you think they were discussing the Xmas 2020 party ? 

[adam]

11 minutes ago, weller54 said:

There's a very simple way to get the unvaccinated think long and hard about their reluctance....

Any unvaccinated person needing treatment for covid...

PAY for all the treatment/hospital care they may need.

Simples.

Don't they already pay for it? 

[Guest Kopfkino]

14 minutes ago, weller54 said:

There's a very simple way to get the unvaccinated think long and hard about their reluctance....

Any unvaccinated person needing treatment for covid...

PAY for all the treatment/hospital care they may need.

Simples.

Don’t think that works precisely because they’re clearly unmoved by the risk of needing significant hospital treatment.

 

Paying people to get the vaccine on the other hand, no idea why it’s not been tried anywhere

[Scotch]

5 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

How recently do you think they were discussing the Xmas 2020 party ? 

No idea. Maybe they were "rehearsing" once they knew it was going to be leaked.

 

All I know is that every Westminster media briefing up until and after the 22nd of December was in a completely different room and they didn't start using the purpose built one she was in until around March or April...

[yorkie1999]

1 hour ago, Parafox said:

I've read the original many years ago. Rudyard Kipling:

 

 

And, Which is more, you’ll be a mason 

[Greg2607]

2 hours ago, Legend_in_blue said:

He's a bared faced liar and, while he is in charge, I will never vote again.

 

 

Why not vote to vote him out?? Apathy doesn't help much!

[pSinatra]

Where's Jacob Rees Mogg?

 

The tax dodging twat has a video every bit as bad as Stratton's.  I'm not sure, but it's been suggested that he wasn't in the Commons for PMQ's today.  I'd keep a low profile too, if I was him.

[Legend_in_blue]

5 minutes ago, Greg2607 said:

Why not vote to vote him out?? Apathy doesn't help much!

How can we vote him out?

 

There's no chance of that in Leicestershire, people round here will vote Tory no matter what.

[Jimothy]

4 minutes ago, Legend_in_blue said:

How can we vote him out?

 

There's no chance of that in Leicestershire, people round here will vote Tory no matter what.

Well not voting against them won't help will it. If everyone has thar attitude, they'll stay in power. You have to take action if you want change, even if you are voting for the less worse option to force change.

[RobHawk]

10 minutes ago, Legend_in_blue said:

How can we vote him out?

 

There's no chance of that in Leicestershire, people round here will vote Tory no matter what.

Depends exactly where but some of Leicestershire was red in the Blair years

[Greg2607]

7 minutes ago, Legend_in_blue said:

How can we vote him out?

 

There's no chance of that in Leicestershire, people round here will vote Tory no matter what.

Depends where you live and every seat counts. From 97 to 2010, NW Leics was labour.  city of Leicester is mainly labour.  Fair enough if you are Hinckley and Bosworth. It's been Tory since before I was born!!

 

But if EVERY person who would vote for an alternative, just thought nah what's the point, then we have these forever. 

 

 

[urban.spaceman]

11 minutes ago, Mapperleyfox said:

Johnson has the integrity and morals of a ****ing slug. He can't even be arsed to answer a direct question. Arrogance beyond belief.

He's not a 'normal' human being. He was born into wealth and had every single opportunity bought and paid for. He was quite literally, bred for a role in public life. When his sister, a journalist, says on a national broadcaster that he wanted to be "King Boris", it's because he was ****ing told from birth that it's extremely achievable. Him, his whole family, and his cabinet, truly are ****ing parasites who only care about themselves. 

[yorkie1999]

2 hours ago, Ginger_Filbert said:

If the opposition was to object to the vaccine passports side of it, it would get them huge support. 

Until a shedload of people catch it then the government would switch it to their advantage.

[urban.spaceman]

26 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said:

He's not a 'normal' human being. He was born into wealth and had every single opportunity bought and paid for. He was quite literally, bred for a role in public life. When his sister, a journalist, says on a national broadcaster that he wanted to be "King Boris", it's because he was ****ing told from birth that it's extremely achievable. Him, his whole family, and his cabinet, truly are ****ing parasites who only care about themselves. 

To clarify, I don't even mean them and their families. We're talking about a man who doesn't even know how many children he's sired. We're talking about a man who cheated on his wife when she had cancer, with a woman he then gave public money to. We're talking about a man whose own brother resigned his position in disgust at his actions but has name been made a ****ing Lord.

 

We're talking about a man who, when a completely predictable pandemic comes along that his 10 year old government should have been prepared for seeing as it's the first ****ing thing on the government's risk register, is more concerned about his political reputation than protecting the public - now 150,000 people are dead.

 

The man has no conscience, and even if he did he'd try to **** it. He's certainly ****ed us over, and I've had enough.

[The Horse's Mouth]

Anyone else excited for the eventual video footage of Boris going full Mike Bassett at the Christmas party