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2 hours ago, Sampson said:

The article is a bit clickybaity I think. I heard them talk about the ban in Oxford on 5Live last week and my understanding is it means more in outdoor areas of pubs, restaurants, train stations etc. rather than just in the street 

I think a few European countries already banned it in outdoor seating areas of pubs and cafes a couple of years ago.

I'm all for it personally.

The outdoor areas of pubs were set up for smokers, it’s only since the non smokers realised how Fvckin dull they are that they now wish to come outside because that’s where all the fun is.

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Policing is the issue.

The police currently fail to manage the important stuff.. now they are going to arrest people for smoking.

We need to redesign the police force if we continue

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4 hours ago, ozleicester said:

Policing is the issue.

The police currently fail to manage the important stuff.. now they are going to arrest people for smoking.

We need to redesign the police force if we continue

I wonder if we’ll see an emphasis on fines, to reclaw some of the lost money we’ve thrown at people on furlough. 
 

I’m not a fan of smoking, however I’ve never done it.

 

I stood in a queue at Alton Towers once behind a load of annoying teenagers that were chugging on Vape things none stop.  I’d rather not inhale that taste of Cherry, strawberry, vanilla etc as well. 
 

 

Posted
8 hours ago, Houdini Logic said:

+1 for banning the Deliveroo cretins

I hate them with a passion. I do suppose there are a few of them that are considerate but the vast majority are idiots.

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5 hours ago, ozleicester said:

Policing is the issue.

The police currently fail to manage the important stuff.. now they are going to arrest people for smoking.

We need to redesign the police force if we continue

I don't see how it's any different to what happens now. They just get kicked out the restaurant that's it. We haven't needed much extra policing since the indoor ban.

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If its outdoors i really don't see the problem. If someone is smoking near me its not like it lingers constantly around you. Just sounds like people trying to micro manage things when there are bigger things to worry about. You will have police standing guard of smoke soon. 

 

 

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From a personal point of view I’d love smoking to be banned and that ghastly vaping thingy whilst we are at it but that doesn’t mean it’s right. I hate it but I don’t agree with banning everything I hate. After they’ve banned smoking the people pursuing these bans will move onto a new pet project and look to ban something else. Only a meter of time till it’s something that does affect me. Therefore I’m totally against the banning.

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8 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

OK, take it the other way, why do they start? 

I suppose you could ask the same about why do people start drinking, taking drugs, gambling etc.

 

All highly addictive

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5 hours ago, kingcarr21 said:

If its outdoors i really don't see the problem. If someone is smoking near me its not like it lingers constantly around you. Just sounds like people trying to micro manage things when there are bigger things to worry about. You will have police standing guard of smoke soon. 

 

 

In specific places I'm all for a ban, people smoking around bus stops used to piss me off royally. Outside restaurants, right outside doors to pubs. I mean what is the point in banning smoking inside when people can stand one inch from the door and have it all blow into the building. 

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I'm an ex smoker. People smoking outside of pubs, restaurants etc. give me a whiff of the good life. Totally against this :).

 

Jokes aside, its a disgusting habit. Like I said, I use to smoke quite a bit and the crap I coughed up after I quit really hit home as to what I was doing to my body. The moment it hit home is when my then 5 year old told his mum "I'll smoke like daddy". Its important that the habit is no longer normalised. 

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Smoking is no doubt anti social and distasteful. It has no place in today's health-conscious and considerate society. 

That's why I bloody love it! 

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14 hours ago, Sharpe's Fox said:

More grief from smokers who must be one group above all others who perceive some sort of injustice towards them. Some of them can be complete bams. Take your death sticks and your yellow teeth somewhere else.

I'm an Ex Smoker (although I do still vape....) However, I don't drink.... how would people feel I Alcohol was banned? - you know the violence inducing, vomit engine of alcohol.  The one which causes people to do things totally out of character?   Equally damaging as smoking if done to excess.....

 

Now don't get me wrong, i'm absolutely NOT suggesting we should ban alcohol, but if it was a NEW thing to the market, people would be totally against it. 

 

I accept that smoking was anti-social and grim for others.... but then so is a really drunk moron...

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3 hours ago, Izzy said:

I suppose you could ask the same about why do people start drinking, taking drugs, gambling etc.

 

All highly addictive

You don't become addicted to smoking overnight though. It's the process of someone picking up smoking as a habit nowadays that I can't get my head around, given the overwhelming negatives that it brings. 

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Was listening to the radio the other day where they were talking about somewhere in England (can't remember where) that were considering banning smoking in ALL public spaces. Absolutely ludicrous. 

 

I understand it in areas of restraunts were folk are eating and it's not feasible to provide a smoking area. I empathise with that, that's why I think it would be sensible to allow owners to dictate smoking/non smoking premises but to completely ban it everywhere in a whole county/town, is too much. 

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i still smoke the odd cigarette. its the only vice i have left and i cant really defend it. its disgusting but that doesnt mean it should be banned. right now they dont allow me to smoke inside a business like a pub. thats fine, im on board with that, but now i cant smoke in the garden either, or out front with this proposed ban. but they still take their 20% tax on every packet whilst telling me i cant smoke when i go out. They'll be after my vape next, which is the only thing stopping me smoking 20 a day.  and im not a nobhead who blows clouds everywhere either. people need to leave people the **** alone, its their life, let them get on with it.

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Bugs me that you could go outside for a half time fag and a bit of a chinwag at the ground with everyone pleasant to each other and a jovial atmosphere whether we're winning or not, but now you've got all this miserable lot, not happy because others are, invading our space that has been especially set aside for us,  moaning about people smoking! well how's about piss off.

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3 hours ago, Babylon said:

In specific places I'm all for a ban, people smoking around bus stops used to piss me off royals. Outside restaurants, right outside doors to pubs. I mean what is the point in banning smoking inside when people can stand one in from the door and have it all blow into the building. 

To be fair smoking in the doorway of a pub should be sorted by the pub, bit of a dick head move and anyone with anything about them probably wouldn’t do it anyway 

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Well the fag ends certainly add to the mishmash of litter on the ground.

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1 hour ago, davieG said:

Well the fag ends certainly add to the mishmash of litter on the ground.

When my missus smoked, she used to carry around a little personal ashtray with a lid on it.

 

She is literally the only person I've ever met that does this. For everyone else, it seems to be that fag ends aren't really even litter

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6 hours ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

OK, take it the other way, why do they start? 


Well most started a long time before this day and age, back In the day when it was deemed suitable to allow 16 year old kids to buy them. 
 

I mean the answer is also the same as why do people start doing any drug despite the negative impact on their health. Curiosity initially and presumably they quite liked it.

 

 

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On 07/06/2021 at 09:54, Babylon said:

In specific places I'm all for a ban, people smoking around bus stops used to piss me off royally. Outside restaurants, right outside doors to pubs. I mean what is the point in banning smoking inside when people can stand one inch from the door and have it all blow into the building. 

Didnt you know smoke works a lot like Covid. It knows where it can and cant go lol 

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On 07/06/2021 at 12:41, Beliall said:

i still smoke the odd cigarette. its the only vice i have left and i cant really defend it. its disgusting but that doesnt mean it should be banned. right now they dont allow me to smoke inside a business like a pub. thats fine, im on board with that, but now i cant smoke in the garden either, or out front with this proposed ban. but they still take their 20% tax on every packet whilst telling me i cant smoke when i go out. They'll be after my vape next, which is the only thing stopping me smoking 20 a day.  and im not a nobhead who blows clouds everywhere either. people need to leave people the **** alone, its their life, let them get on with it.

Problem is smoking doesn't leave the rest of us alone. When you puff out that crappy smoke, it blows in our faces, gets on our clothes, stinks the air and is generally unpleasant. That's even before we get onto the second hand smoke health factors etc.

 

I don't mind people killing themselves with ciggies, my mum and dad smoked for decades until health meant they had to kick the habit. I've been around cigs all my life, but I think the whole point is not to drag us all in with your disgusting habit as well.

 

Personally vapes are find, even the enormous steam-train style puffs that people can exhale. In fact, I want to follow some people down the street as some of them smell so nice. I'd rather that than the vile smoke coming from a ciggy.

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