First for the Chop?

[Arriba Los Zorros]

Surprised nobody has gone for Ole!

[peach0000]

Wolves manager but can't see the option!

[Out Foxed]

do wolves not have a manager

[goody2028]

If you’ve not put the Watford manager you’ve clicked the wrong option

[peach0000]

18 minutes ago, goody2028 said:

If you’ve not put the Watford manager you’ve clicked the wrong option

I think Watford have made a few decent signings that haven't really grabbed the headlines. I think they'll have an alright season and that will probably stop him from being the first. Still will be sacked at some point, it is Watford we are talking about after all. 

[Metal Lover]

I voted Santo.  See what happens, but Spurs look unstable at the moment.

[420Hashish]

Alright who voted Brodgers? 

[Jimbo]

While it should almost definitely be Watford, who goes after that is quite a tough choice.

 

If Arsenal still don't perform this season, do they stick with Arteta and see his project through, or do they twist and finally get rid?

 

If Villa don't get off to a stormer then Smith could be very much under pressure. Their net spend over the last few years is ridiculous and surely sooner, rather then later, they're giving to want to see some return?

 

It'll depend on what expectations Palace have, but I just can't see Viera working out.

 

Wolves showed themselves as very much a one man team after Jimenez got injured, they struggled, relatively last season, but how much of that was down to Nuno? Their new guy looks to be changing their system and style a little bit, remains to be seen if it'll have a positive affect.

 

Southampton were (wrongly) my dark horses last year, I'm tempted to have a tenner on them being relegated this year. Last season a few teams would have been a lot closer to relegation if it wasn't for the bottom 3 looking so poor. Saints were one of those teams, haven't really strengthened this season and have lost 2 key players (almost)

 

Burnley are a bit of an oddity, sometimes do well, sometimes not so well, but can't see them sacking Dyche even if they were terrible?

 

Benitez will always be in danger, unless he performs some sort of miracle 

 

[Nicolo Barella]

Southampton should be fine, assuming they will reinvest some of the £45 million they've just made from outgoing transfers.

[stretch1965]

Gooner at work has actually put money on Arteta to be the first to go 

[Mickey O'Neil]

Toss up between Vierra and Arteta for me. I think Palace have gambled badly although happy to be wrong. 

 

Arsenal are just lost in the wilderness. I don't know much about them but it feels like they haven't done much in the transfer market to support Arteta. It also feels like Maddison signing would be one of appeasement. Maddison alone would not fix their problems..does Arteta have the time to build a squad of his own? I don't think so.

 

I think both will go. I've only just voted and already, I can't remember which of those two I picked!!! I think Arteta !!!!

 

NES at Spurs and Dean Smith would be expected to hit the ground running. They're solid shouts for Christmas sackings. Villa need to push for Europe this year to recoup some of their spending.

Watford have feisty owners

I'd also guess Wolves by Christmas.

[Iran]

On 11/08/2021 at 04:14, NasPb said:

Arteta if arsenal aren't stupid (they are). Terrible manager 

Haha, yes, I agree. There is already a divide between Arsenal fans on Arteta as is (I cannot stand their fans ) and I cannot see a manager more destined for sack than Arteta, especially with such a POOR preseason. 

[OntarioFox]

I want Watford to bin off Munoz and install Ben Foster as their interim manager. Just so his Cycling GK vlog turns into the modern day Mike Bassett. 

[SexyGammonFox]

On 12/08/2021 at 08:25, Mickey O'Neil said:

Toss up between Vierra and Arteta for me. I think Palace have gambled badly although happy to be wrong. 

 

Arsenal are just lost in the wilderness. I don't know much about them but it feels like they haven't done much in the transfer market to support Arteta. It also feels like Maddison signing would be one of appeasement. Maddison alone would not fix their problems..does Arteta have the time to build a squad of his own? I don't think so.

 

I think both will go. I've only just voted and already, I can't remember which of those two I picked!!! I think Arteta !!!!

 

NES at Spurs and Dean Smith would be expected to hit the ground running. They're solid shouts for Christmas sackings. Villa need to push for Europe this year to recoup some of their spending.

Watford have feisty owners

I'd also guess Wolves by Christmas.

After the end of last season Villa need to hit the ground running, a couple of wins early doors is crucial for Smith. Watford love a good sacking though don't they? 

 

Another poll could be, how many managers will Watford get through this season?

[Chrysalis]

Dean Smith for me, they have spent a lot, and his record without Grealish is horrible.

[Guest Basildon Fox]

I really would love it to Be Arteta.  Hopefully a loss tonight against Brentford and they will be pressing the panic button straight away!!

[Corky]

I can see a Hassenhuttl mutual consent departure if Saints start badly.

[Legend_in_blue]

Went for Arteta.

 

Can see Brentford doing them tonight as well.  Pressure will be well and truly on for me.

[Tielemans63]

On this evidence...Arteta

[surrifox]

I just want Arsenal to limp along - Lose 2 win one , draw one , lose another so they  keep Arteta but do squat 

[CrispinLA in Texas]

4 hours ago, Corky said:

I can see a Hassenhuttl mutual consent departure if Saints start badly.

Still feel that he is a good manager, it's just that the Southampton board haven't given him much money to spend on transfers and their recruitment isn't as strong as it used to be... maybe

[SexyGammonFox]

Is it too late to change my mind? 🤭

[Arriba Los Zorros]

On 13/08/2021 at 20:39, surrifox said:

I just want Arsenal to limp along - Lose 2 win one , draw one , lose another so they  keep Arteta but do squat 

If they keep up that trend every 5 games of winning 1 drawing 1 and losing 3 that puts them less than one PPG or relegation zone and Arteta won't stay for long.

[OntarioFox]

After these first few games Arteta has to be in the driving seat.

That being said, I am absolutely praying that they stICK wiTH tHE prOCesS and he's in the hotseat until at least Christmas, when the penny finally drops that being in the bottom three isn't exactly befitting for a "S*per Le*g*e" club. It just makes our job - and that of those around us I'm hoping join our charge to upset the "big six" order - far easier.

I took one look at that teamsheet before the Brentford game and said out loud to myself - "this is the worst Arsenal team I've seen in my life". It really is that bad. They will be lucky to finish in the top half, regardless of who is managing them. I know they're missing a couple of players, but none of the missing names fill me with any inspiration or dread - even Aubameyang seems to be on a chronic decline at this point. They then sell Willock - the one player on their books who on last season's showing looks like a goal machine - to Newcastle of all places. Absolute madness. He should be up top for them right now, getting onto some of the balls Tierney is feeding in - the single player in that farce at Brentford who I thought put in anything approaching a decent shift. The rest of them absolutely phoned it in, in a way that would make me livid as a Leicester fan - even Saka, who I want to see do well given the fallout from the summer, was bang average in his cameo and yet will be expected to carry this undercooked team as Arsenal's new poster boy.

The only insane scenario I can see that would result in them making an assault on the heady heights of the Conference League places () is if they get someone in to put a rocket up them and try to change their soft, half-arsed culture. Otherwise I leigitimately think they might be in for bottom half or even potentially being sucked into the relegation battle. Losing to a newly promoted club is one thing, but they were not just beaten by two lucky goals - they were dominated and outclassed by a Championship outfit. And I can't remember a time in recent history where a so-called "upset" in such a supposed mismatch for the "little guy" was such a non-surprise as this. Seemingly every neutral on earth backed Brentford to win the game, and nearly everyone at least expected a draw. 3/1 in betting for a newly promoted club against Arsenal. A team with aspirations to break free of a league they're supposed to be "too big for". Laughable. For comparison, Norwich were hovering around 15-20/1 for their match against Liverpool today, a team Arsenal were trying to say with a straight face they're in the same bracket as a few months ago during the breakaway attempt.

So, my weird leftfield prediction for 2021-22 season? Bielsa ends up at Arsenal by the end of the season. Leeds are going to struggle on today's showing and may even show him the door before the season is out, but he will still be a manager in high demand and of the sort of sub-elite bracket Arsenal might actually be able to tempt. Whether that group of players would ever buy into his high-energy, constant effort philosophy like his current lot do is another question entirely, but the past 10 years have shows that logic is not something the Arsenal board exercise on a regular basis. If anything it seems like too obvious an answer for their glaring issues with application and effort in all areas of the pitch.

If they can't tempt someone like him, or anyone to get them back to basics and putting a shift in, I genuinely think they may be staring Championship football in the face by 2022. The malaise has been growing season-by-season for nearly a decade now, and their position is unique - a so-called "big club" that literally everyone in the division sees as a scalp, but who Brentford have just showed anybody is capable of getting a result against.

Edited 15 August 2021 by OntarioFox

[LestaAl]

Now that we have dropped out of European  football places is Brendan under a cloud.