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C Palace v Leicester(pre- match thread) 2.00 Oct 3rd

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Manini

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9 minutes ago, indierich06 said:

Didn't we get hammered 4-1 there in Puel's last game? Hope history doesn't repeat itself, sort it out Brendan.

It was at home - one of the most depressing football matches I’ve ever watched. I was also hanging after a two day bender and didn’t really want to be there, but I’m sure that had nothing to do with it. 

filbertway

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2 minutes ago, goose2010 said:

yeah i agree it is odd but this style looks even worse when the basics arent done well. 

 

Too many of them either think they dont need to do the basics or are just being shown up for being quite average footballers. 

 

I don't expect perfection as at the end of the day we are Leicester but i would expect the ball not to just bounce off players. 

I'd agree on that. I just think, it's the managers job to send the players out there to be focussed and motivated for the game. I've not seen us take a game to the opposition in the first half in ages. Maybe West Brom, but then Rodgers was livid at us scoring and creating chances.

 

It just smacks of the players being massively overcoached to the point where they can rarely just play in a way that comes natural to them. 

 

Either Rodgers needs to adapt and change or we need to replace him, because our individual quality will only get us so far. If i'm Youri I wouldn't want to sign up to another 4 years of playing this awful brand of football.

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Buce

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1 hour ago, StanSP said:

Perhaps it's because Rodgers has earnt that time to turn it around in terms of results? 

'stinking the place out just as bad'? 

 

I think you need to look at the situations comparatively once again. 

 

Is this as bad as losing out on the playoffs in 2013? As bad as we were under Taylor? 

 

I really think not. 

 

If fans really do think or feel like we're bad now as we were back then, then I worry for them more than I do the club right now. 

 

This 'be grateful for what we have' attitude is wearing a bit thin.

 

Just because we were crap in the past, it doesn't mean we have to accept mediocrity now.

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Farrington fox

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1 hour ago, Devonfox1884 said:

Kasper

 

Ricardo

Evans

Soyuncu

Castagne

 

Tielemans

Soumare

 

Lookman

Nacho

Barnes

 

Vardy

 

Possibly a player light in central midfield, but fuch it - just attack them!

I'll go with this. But we all know Perez and Bertrand will be in there.

StanSP

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1 minute ago, Buce said:

 

This 'be grateful for what we have' attitude is wearing a bit thin.

 

Just because we were crap in the past, it doesn't mean we have to accept mediocrity now.

I'm in no way saying we have to accept mediocrity now and i don't think my post alludes to that. If it did, I apologise.

 

We are better than we are now but we're nowhere near as bad as we have been before. 

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Matt

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2 minutes ago, Buce said:

 

This 'be grateful for what we have' attitude is wearing a bit thin.

 

Just because we were crap in the past, it doesn't mean we have to accept mediocrity now.

Stop being so entitled :ph34r::rolleyes:

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Nod.E

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Kelechi doesn't start, we riot.

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21 minutes ago, Buce said:

 

This 'be grateful for what we have' attitude is wearing a bit thin.

 

Just because we were crap in the past, it doesn't mean we have to accept mediocrity now.

Nope we don't have to accept it and especially not with the money the club has been spending in recent years on the training ground, transfers and stadium expansion plans. 

 

There is too much at stake now for us to be a happy clapper club just enjoying the ride because if we go down we are on the express lane to oblivion, the whole future of the club rests on continued success so we should rightfully be demanding that success. 

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Buce

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14 minutes ago, StanSP said:

I'm in no way saying we have to accept mediocrity now and i don't think my post alludes to that. If it did, I apologise.

 

We are better than we are now but we're nowhere near as bad as we have been before. 

 

It's just small club mentality, though.

 

Can you imagine Utd's fans accepting it because they were relegated once? Or their City neighbours?

 

If we seriously have ambitions to disrupt the status quo and become a 'top club' then we need to start thinking like one, and what we are getting from Rodgers now is unacceptable.

 

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StanSP

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Just now, Buce said:

 

It's just small club mentality, though.

 

Can you imagine Utd's fans accepting it because they were relegated once? Or their City neighbours?

 

If we seriously have ambitions to disrupt the status quo and become a 'top club' then we need to start thinking like one, and what we are getting from Rodgers now is unacceptable.

 

You seem to be missing that many think it is also unacceptable? 

I haven't said otherwise? 

 

I don't think it's unreasonable though to maintain 'some' perspective of where we have been to where we are now and perhaps it's not as bad as it has been? 

Not small club mentality at all. I politely disagree with that conclusion!

 

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BlueFox789

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Went Selhurst Park in 2018. We lost 5-0, Albrighton got a red.

Was fed up of hearing 'glad all over' 5 times.

To top it all off, foxes travel coach broke down on the way home :appl:

Certainly wasn't glad all over by the time we got home.

Stadt

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We can't withstand any sort of pressure. We're likely to concede at least once and scoring 2 or 3 seems beyond u at the moment. 1-0, 1-1 or 2-1 I think.

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Buce

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9 minutes ago, StanSP said:

You seem to be missing that many think it is also unacceptable? 

I haven't said otherwise? 

 

You seemed to be implying it, Stan, but if you say not I accept it.

 

9 minutes ago, StanSP said:

 

I don't think it's unreasonable though to maintain 'some' perspective of where we have been to where we are now and perhaps it's not as bad as it has been? 

Not small club mentality at all. I politely disagree with that conclusion!

 

 

No worries, mate, it's all about opinions - nothing personal at all.

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drumbeat

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I'm not hugely confident. I am even a tad worried.

 

Palace are a team that will be confident against us. No, I don't buy into the 'they always beat us' kind of historical thing but it praps boosts the players as they step onto the pitch - even if it's an entirely different set of players. The Palace fans will have cause to be optimistic, as they will buy into the history thing and they know we are beatable at the moment.

 

And we are at a low ebb, and maybe low on confidence. Arguably a perfect storm.

 

More than the result though, I fear a poor performance will turn even more of the fan base to 'BR out'. The discontent is understandably mounting. We need to show something, anything, to stem that tide. If fans see the same tactics then I reckon it could well turn up the dial against him, and having that atmosphere generally in the club is not good.

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It's been a long while since we've comfortably beaten anyone in the league, in fact I think we've got to go back to West Brom at home where Rodgers then completely shut us down in the 2nd half and ever since we have been revolting. 

 

I genuinely don't know what we do to evoke a change. I'm a staunch 4-2-3-1 / 4-4-1-1 man but I don't even know if that's the root to solving our problems. One things for sure if we continue to expose our current defence with the style of football we are deploying then it won't improve, I genuinely think we will be in a relegation battle if so, its all hinging on Evans remaining fit or Rodgers changing approach to a more counter attacking team.

 

Ndidi being out is a problem, a back 5 doesn't solve anything with the players we have available, it doesn't make us any more solid but it tends to make us more limited on the ball and our ability to get up the pitch. The only saving grace is it would mean Iheanacho and Vardy start together but that should be happening anyway in a back 4.

 

Can Soumare play a disciplined enough role with Tielemans? We've got to play on the front foot, we aren't getting out this slump anytime soon by defensive football because we simply can't play it. I'd tolerate it if we were shrewd at keeping clean sheets and then pouncing on opportunities to get our noses in front and see games out but we are a disgrace right now. We will gift opposition some huge chances/goals whatever system we play so we simply have to give ourselves the best platform to attack back and score ourselves. We are a different animal when we go ahead in games, always have been. We may no longer always win games automatically when going ahead but we still settle down and tend to play with more freedom than we are seeing in the opening 45 minutes of matches this season where you can't help but feel that we are waiting to go a goal down to kick start us, sadistic and peculiar. 

 

Can we get a back 4 out, 2 wingers and Iheanacho and Vardy? Surely it can't be any worse than we are serving up right now?

 

Schmeichel

 

Castagne

Evans

Soyuncu

Bertrand

 

Lookman

Soumare

Tielemans

Barnes

 

Iheanacho

 

Vardy

 

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UpTheLeagueFox

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3 hours ago, Matt said:

He was often accused of an agenda against Puel (As was I), I stuck up for him because I had the same views as him, there was no agenda as far as I was concerned.

The things he's listed had happened before the time so why not happy clap back then?

However what we're seeing now is stinking the place out just as bad, yet he won't have a bad word said.

I'd be contradicting myself or be a hypocrite if I said anything else.

Perhaps people's accusations of an agenda were correct.

 

3 hours ago, Matt said:

That's not what i'm comparing it to though is it, I'm comparing the times between Puel and Rodgers. The 2 things you've listed and other things hes listed were worse than Puel's time aswell, yet there was problems from him and me, I never seen him listing those things or telling us how far we'd come then though.

Regardless of earning time to turn things around you can be objective, comment on what we're seeing can be mentioned, parrallels can be drawn and I struggle to accept he has so many issues under Puel but is happy to clap what we're witnessing now (And have been for quite a while).

The poster suggested it was the lowest he'd ever felt about the team right now.

I merely pointed out that there had been significantly worse times in the past 20 years.

That's not to say we should accept mediocrity and it's tough to watch right now.

But the manager does have significant credit in the bank, unlike Puel, so I measure my criticism towards Rodgers.

 

As for the supposed agenda against Puel, I merely pointed out what he was doing behind the scenes which turned the place toxic. Many here and elsewhere didn't want to listen, which is fair enough

If I did have an agenda against him, I would've called for him to be sacked.

IIRC, I never called for him to be sacked. (Not that my views hold any weight anyway.)

I wanted him to be less rigid in his views, to improve his man management, to operate differently so we could be successful. I wanted him to succeed, as I do with every manager.

The most important thing for me, whichever manager or players, is to run a happy ship and get positive results.

Puel didn't do that but Rodgers has... and I sincerely hope he's the man to get us out of this slump and back firing again.

 

FWIW, if I was told that things behind the scenes were as bad as under Puel, I would share that information.

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