Legia fans support

[Buce]

8 minutes ago, boots60 said:

I would love to hear a great Taliban acapella covers band.

 

Not quite the Taliban but...

 

 

[hejammy]

42 minutes ago, MalletFox said:

Hmmm, an interesting comparison, although a  slight over exaggeration to compare vocal support in a stadium with Hitler!

Well the comparison is a white supremacist vs lots of white supremacists actually incase you struggled with that.... 

[Jakemoore]

1 hour ago, Pliskin said:

Hard to defend them when there were clear audible boos when our players took the knee. Regardless of people stance on it, it’s an anti discrimination symbol that the players want to be part of, and it is quite clear why it was boo’d. So yes I will bring politics into it.

There are clear audible boos at the KP when players take the knee. As Gareth Southgate said, who are we to judge other countries when ours is just as bad. 

[Spudulike]

1 minute ago, Jakemoore said:

There are clear audible boos at the KP when players take the knee. As Gareth Southgate said, who are we to judge other countries when ours is just as bad. 

Except that ours isn't just as bad. 

[RonnieTodger]

1 hour ago, Cardiff_Fox said:

Keeping the two separate here; but yeah the noise and display from them was absolutely immense. The tifo was purposely a two sided dig - quite an intelligent way of doing it, if pretty fcuking bleugh at the same time. 
 

They had complete buy in from all three sides of the ground - corporates included! The only criticism I have is that it’s very calculated - english atmosphere used to have a spontaneous notion to them which European clubs find very difficult to replicate. 
 

The Europa League is the greatest competition in the world btw. 
 

Personally I have had a lot confirmed what we all know about the club. There were positives and negatives about the set up pre match / post match. Apparently they didn’t think we’d get away support for Europe. 
 

However there hasn’t been a sincere thanks or even a picture of our travelling support on any of the social media channels. It wasn’t easy to make that game on a months notice with multiple paperwork to fill out. At the actual game, we had Tielemans make a proper beeline for the support before the game and thankfully Kasper/Rodgers after the game. That was it. They are going to grow the distance between the fans and players/club at a time when they need it more than ever. 
 

We have a trip to Moscow in a few weeks where some folk want to travel but we’ve had little or no interest for the club in supporting that. It’s as if they’d rather have an empty away end than 50 to 100 making an amazing effort for them. 
 

Now if the club would allow UFS to do a Walsall to Warsaw tifo with Lloyd, Heskey, Shinji and Hamza in it please 

This is a really good point. They usually can’t wait to post about “the blue army” arriving at West Ham, yet the 800 that jumped through hoops (some of the clubs doing) to get to and from Poland aren’t mentioned at all. Strange.

[Vestan Pance]

2 hours ago, Pliskin said:

Yea, 30,000 white supremacy racists is exactly the kind of fan base we should be wanting to be like……

 

They’re a disgrace to the game, and in my opinion should be banned from competing in Europe. 

Pretty amazing that all of the 30,000 happened to be what you've called them above. Yet every Pole I've worked and been friends with is not what you have said. Is there a possibility you could be Stereotyping the entire Legia support?

Edited 2 October 2021 by Vestan Pance

[yorkie1999]

2 hours ago, Finnegan said:

Shame about the rampant far right white nationalism eh. 

If you took that away, would the support be the same? It seems to me that all these so called "passionate" clubs with large groups of Ultra's in their support base, have some sort of either political, religeous or racial motivation. They're all anti-something, which creates a solidarity mindset, and consequently, the big atmospheres. Probably one of the reasons that the atmosphere at most English clubs is so poor. 

[MrsJohnMurphy]

11 minutes ago, yorkie1999 said:

If you took that away, would the support be the same? It seems to me that all these so called "passionate" clubs with large groups of Ultra's in their support base, have some sort of either political, religeous or racial motivation. They're all anti-something, which creates a solidarity mindset, and consequently, the big atmospheres. Probably one of the reasons that the atmosphere at most English clubs is so poor. 

Aren't we all anti Perez?  

[Jakemoore]

33 minutes ago, Spudulike said:

Except that ours isn't just as bad. 

Racism is racism. Just because they shout theirs loudly and we mutter ours under our breath or via Twitter doesn’t make it any different. It’s all a disgusting plague on society and we’re not beyond judgment. 

[adejo92]

You would be hard pushed to find an atmosphere that matched theirs, for a stadium smaller than our own, the noise level was like nothing i have ever heard in football, home or away. It was as if there was not even a family area in the stadium, it just seemed like 30,000 + passionate blokes who treat it more like a religion than a hobby.

 

Sure, i don't agree with the racism, but in countries like Poland, that runs much deeper than just the football, as is the case with a lot of eastern Europe.

 

I would never wish our fan base to resemble theirs, but, as a sole experience, without looking into the politics, that was phenomenal. 

Edited 2 October 2021 by adejo92

[Lako42]

1 hour ago, RonnieTodger said:

This is a really good point. They usually can’t wait to post about “the blue army” arriving at West Ham, yet the 800 that jumped through hoops (some of the clubs doing) to get to and from Poland aren’t mentioned at all. Strange.

The club don't want the support of the types in Poland. 

 

They want coach one and kids. 

 

They really should show some appreciation 

[bovril]

2 hours ago, boots60 said:

I would love to hear a great Taliban acapella covers band.

Sounds like a Half Man Half Biscuit B side. 

[Sol thewall Bamba]

8 minutes ago, Lako42 said:

The club don't want the support of the types in Poland. 

Sadly this is spot on.

[CosbehFox]

5 minutes ago, Lako42 said:

The club don't want the support of the types in Poland. 

 

They want coach one and kids. 

 

They really should show some appreciation 

The peculiar thing of some supporters getting scarves but in many ways putting a target on their back when trying to arrive at the ground was a corking fan safety tactic too. 
 

Just remembered their fans chanting to Bonny Tyler and Boney M. 😂

[CosbehFox]

Their stadium as well is the same size of ours but felt indefinitely better designed, unique and aids the atmosphere 

[Spudulike]

1 hour ago, Jakemoore said:

Racism is racism. Just because they shout theirs loudly and we mutter ours under our breath or via Twitter doesn’t make it any different. It’s all a disgusting plague on society and we’re not beyond judgment. 

I'm not disputing that. However the thread is about Legia fan support and ours, using any measure, just isn't as bad. 

[BenTheFox]

19 minutes ago, Lako42 said:

The club don't want the support of the types in Poland. 

 

They want coach one and kids. 

 

They really should show some appreciation 

Spot on. The type of fans that went to Poland are not those that wear the entire club shop and therefore the club are not interested. 

[Grebfromgrebland]

3 hours ago, BenTheFox said:

Hilarious that someone simply points out how good an atmosphere was and the first thing people do is bring up their politics as though the two cannot be separated at all. 

It's a bit like saying that Hitler was a cool guy, loved his art, fashion and culture, was even a vegetarian too. Plus he was a real champion of technology and efficiency. Knows how to control a crowd too.

[Steve Earle]

Replying to the OP, and with due respect to all subsequent posts, the noise the Legia fans made was amazing, and they kept it up for virtually the whole 90 minutes. Definitely felt like they had an extra man, but that might have had something to do with football?!? The noisiest home fans I've ever experienced. Glad to have been there.

[lcfc67]

Must admit I thought the noise made in Copenhagen by their fans was pretty amazing too. Can't compare it with Warsaw as I couldn't make that trip. Anyone who was at both perhaps you can compare them for us ?

 

[CosbehFox]

1 minute ago, lcfc67 said:

Must admit I thought the noise made in Copenhagen by their fans was pretty amazing too. Can't compare it with Warsaw as I couldn't make that trip. Anyone who was at both perhaps you can compare them for us ?

 

Legia better. Was literally their entire stadium at times compared to just Copenhagen’s main end 

[BenTheFox]

12 minutes ago, Grebfromgrebland said:

It's a bit like saying that Hitler was a cool guy, loved his art, fashion and culture, was even a vegetarian too. Plus he was a real champion of technology and efficiency. Knows how to control a crowd too.

Except that it isn't though, is it? Nobody is claiming that Legia Warsaw fans are 'cool guys', merely that they create a good atmosphere. Likewise I wouldn't call OJ Simpson a 'cool guy' but I can acknowledge that he was an excellent running back during his day. 

Edited 2 October 2021 by BenTheFox

[Fox96]

43 minutes ago, adejo92 said:

Sure, i don't agree with the racism, but in countries like Poland, that runs much deeper than just the football, as is the case with a lot of eastern Europe.

Poland is not Eastern Europe though, so if you’re comparing along regions it would be fairer to compare with another Central European country like Germany - not sure how deep the racism in football runs there though.

[Vardinio'sCat]

9 minutes ago, Fox96 said:

Poland is not Eastern Europe though, so if you’re comparing along regions it would be fairer to compare with another Central European country like Germany - not sure how deep the racism in football runs there though.

 

It depends who you ask about Central or Eastern, there is no agreed defintion.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Europe

 

Germany used to be East and West, which complicates things, so I would compare Poland to another country which was formerly completely behind the Iron curtain, Hungary. Right wing populists in charge who don't mind flirting with the race card. The enfant terribles of the EU.

 

Mind you, with Boris in charge we are not exactly setting a good example either, and we are just as unpopular in Brussels.

 

 

 

 

[jonathan_ross]

5 hours ago, Finnegan said:

Shame about the rampant far right white nationalism eh.