PSV UPDATE

[Ric Flair]

Just now, Cardiff_Fox said:

The club employed a number of people at the start of the season I believe at middle management level.
 

Understandably the owners are taking a back seat. 
 

For me they appear poor appointments but I ain’t gonna bore anyone for the umpteenth time on it 

This isn't on the owners anyway, it's on the full time senior management and directors. The culture and standards seem to be slipping ever so slightly.

[CosbehFox]

6 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

This isn't on the owners anyway, it's on the full time senior management and directors. The culture and standards seem to be slipping ever so slightly.

My gut is that for years we’ve rested on the laurels of being a ‘Premier League club’ and all the rewards/attractions to punters that brings.
 

We appear static to change or evolving - there’s a challenge coming in the next couple of years - to fill another 8k seats. That will be no problem facing the big six but given the European games, it’s gonna be a task for cup games and/or the lower half of the PL. 

 

Edited 29 March 2022 by Cardiff_Fox

[lcfc old boy]

57 minutes ago, Ashley said:

 

is that not the price of general sale tickets anyway, surely the club would not do something like half the price of general sale tickets, has anybody out there used this code and got the discount, because it looks to me like the so called discount has already been applied

 

[Foxes1]

4 minutes ago, lcfc old boy said:

is that not the price of general sale tickets anyway, surely the club would not do something like half the price of general sale tickets, has anybody out there used this code and got the discount, because it looks to me like the so called discount has already been applied

 

I already have my tickets so decided to just look at prices out of interest using the code, for 2  tickets it came up as £50 I then applied the code and price came up as £25. So the prices quoted do not have the discount applied. 

[grobyfox1990]

Wow this black card looks like good value! Well we all know what to do. Ring the club and demand the requisite 50% discount. And keep ringing. If that fails, contact your credit card provider and get the cash back, there’s enough evidence on here to build a very loose false sale case which any good card provider will accept and rebate. 
 

I’ve lost the post I wanted to quote now, which states people fall over themselves to defend the club for reps. It’s the exact opposite to me, people get into foaming outrage at the club on an Internet forum for rep points. Do something about it if it outrages you that much, getting the money back will be easier than coming on here and spitting bars at no one. 

[K1FOX]

Bet they give away tickets to 'Cool as Leicester' too. Looking at their insta they have had 4 or 5 people at the european aways so must be some sort of way for their members to benefit too.

[st albans fox]

1 hour ago, Ashley said:

 

Can’t work out how corporate areas would be offered at a discount to the  ‘underprivileged’  ??? (Or has thIs explanation been discounted- sorry for the pun)

 

there were kids prices applied to the normal ticket pricing in any case …..would these have been discounted 50% ?  

Edited 29 March 2022 by st albans fox

[K1FOX]

1 minute ago, grobyfox1990 said:

Wow this black card looks like good value! Well we all know what to do. Ring the club and demand the requisite 50% discount. And keep ringing. If that fails, contact your credit card provider and get the cash back, there’s enough evidence on here to build a very loose false sale case which any good card provider will accept and rebate. 
 

I’ve lost the post I wanted to quote now, which states people fall over themselves to defend the club for reps. It’s the exact opposite to me, people get into foaming outrage at the club on an Internet forum for rep points. Do something about it if it outrages you that much, getting the money back will be easier than coming on here and spitting bars at no one. 

On what terms will your credit card provider give you 50% back? Genuine question

[ren]

Just now, K1FOX said:

Bet they give away tickets to 'Cool as Leicester' too. Looking at their insta they have had 4 or 5 people at the european aways so must be some sort of way for their members to benefit too.

No doubt they had an undeserved helping for Forest away as well

[KFS]

Cool as Leicester tifo anyone? 

[StanSP]

28 minutes ago, Cardiff_Fox said:

My gut is that for years we’ve rested on the laurels of being a ‘Premier League club’ and all the rewards/attractions to punters that brings.
 

We appear static to change or evolving - there’s a challenge coming in the next couple of years - to fill another 8k seats. That will be no problem facing the big six but given the European games, it’s gonna be a task for cup games and/or the lower half of the PL. 

 

I get your point and agree for the less glamorous games it's a hard sell. But no club in the PL actually sells out for cup games/lower half of PL - nature of the beast that has grown over the years. So many fans appear for the big games, go into hiding for the smaller ones. 

 

Maybe we'll see more offers like this (not a good thing) as an attempt to sell tickets. What would be good is giving an allowance (instead of what's gone on here) to local schools or charities - free tickets to kids is a no-lose situation. You get a younger group invested in the club if they enjoy themselves, and you get seats filled. I'm not saying the whole 8k gets given to them, but there's quite obviously a reason why the stadium expansion has been green-lighted. If the club didn't think they could sell the extra tickets, it's pretty stupid and naive to spend so much on it. Maybe they've looked at ST numbers and demand for it. My opinion is that it perhaps should/could have been done earlier but I'm not privy to a fraction of the info or research that's done to warrant such huge decisions. And maybe it was earmarked for 2020/21 but covid obviously impacts that. 

 

I don't think we're static to change or evolving. We don't survive as a big-ish club now and getting to where we are if we haven't evolved or changed some things. What I think is that sometimes the club is far out of touch with some groups of fans, and that change sometimes occurs too slowly. But that is too slow for the fans as opposed to the club. The owners have always been very shrewd and not ostentatious or extravagant - that in itself is a good thing in my opinion. They're by no means perfect and could do themselves huge favours by listening to fan groups like Union FS and getting their input on how to generate better atmosphere for starters. 

 

What won't continue to work is pretending they're listening to fans and then not following through with some valuable promises or genuine positive/constructive feedback given. I emailed the club after the debacle yesterday and I of course hope that gets taken on board. Ranting on a forum only gets so far - I imagine hundreds of other fans have emailed as well. If not, maybe do so! 

[StanSP]

10 minutes ago, K1FOX said:

Bet they give away tickets to 'Cool as Leicester' too. Looking at their insta they have had 4 or 5 people at the european aways so must be some sort of way for their members to benefit too.

For all we know someone there may be a loyal fan, regular away match-goer and ST Holder? It's not beyond the realms of possibility that someone working there is able to go to away European games? 

[VLC86]

12 minutes ago, K1FOX said:

Bet they give away tickets to 'Cool as Leicester' too. Looking at their insta they have had 4 or 5 people at the european aways so must be some sort of way for their members to benefit too.

Or, said people in the pictures have been to loads of away games over the past 8 years and are in the top priority brackets.

[SchmalleyBoots]

2 minutes ago, Costock_Fox said:

Or, said people in the pictures have been to loads of away games over the past 8 years and are in the top priority brackets.

Did you get free drinks on Thirsty street? 😂😂

[Craig]

4 minutes ago, Costock_Fox said:

Or, said people in the pictures have been to loads of away games over the past 8 years and are in the top priority brackets.

Nonsense. 
 

[Ashley]

17 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

Can’t work out how corporate areas would be offered at a discount to the  ‘underprivileged’  ??? (Or has thIs explanation been discounted- sorry for the pun)

 

there were kids prices applied to the normal ticket pricing in any case …..would these have been discounted 50% ?  

It's not for underprivileged people mate. Its apart of the black card offer if you're a coolasleicester member.

[VLC86]

2 minutes ago, SchmalleyBoots said:

Did you get free drinks on Thirsty street? 😂😂

Red carpet in Chez Fanch

[Jobyfox]

13 hours ago, coolhandfox said:

I did Pleat and Taylor, but then had kids and missed Levein and Holloway 

 

Started going back down with the son in the L1 season.

 

He has had it so good, lucky bugger

I’m similar actually. Missed most of the Levein years, but back for the fall to League One and the meteoric rise since 

[K1FOX]

10 minutes ago, Costock_Fox said:

Or, said people in the pictures have been to loads of away games over the past 8 years and are in the top priority brackets.

Tbf just had another look and the lady who i believe runs the page and even the organisation seems to have been a season ticket holder for a very long time.

[Foxes1]

So each one who has a 'coolasleicester' card is allowed to purchase 6 tickets for the Eindhoven home game at a discount, as we all know it is open to abuse what's to stop these people selling the tickets on at face value and making money on it nothing.

[CosbehFox]

18 minutes ago, StanSP said:

I get your point and agree for the less glamorous games it's a hard sell. But no club in the PL actually sells out for cup games/lower half of PL - nature of the beast that has grown over the years. So many fans appear for the big games, go into hiding for the smaller ones. 

Just took a look at cup games for five differing PL clubs who either had Europe or similar sized stadiums/cities

 

Southampton - 92% capacity sold

Leeds - 90%

West Ham - 88%

Leicester - 83%

Spurs - 62%

[K1FOX]

1 minute ago, Cardiff_Fox said:

Just took a look at cup games for five differing PL clubs who either had Europe or similar sized stadiums/cities

 

Southampton - 92% capacity sold

Leeds - 90%

West Ham - 88%

Leicester - 83%

Spurs - 62%

83% at 32,000 will soon become 75% at 40,000. Just don't see how we will consistently get close to 40,000. 

 

In my opinion this decline in interest is due to the club pushing this family atmosphere, restrictions and curbing any enthusiasm. European quarter final at a club that has 22,000 STH and struggling to sell out. People are just not interested and it's not the football on the pitch that is the reason. It's the sanitisation and the control the club are trying to impose.

[grobyfox1990]

40 minutes ago, K1FOX said:

On what terms will your credit card provider give you 50% back? Genuine question

If you’re going down the credit card route, it’s full refund. Say you’ve been missold a ticket and therefore can no longer attend and you are being refused a refund. Or, just use the failsafe, got covid. None of this is right btw and I’m fine with a £26.50 ticket cost and the bloke next to me paying £12.50. But it seems many aren’t, and obviously ranting on a forum and/or emailing a group inbox will get you nowhere. Take action if it bothers you all so much, play them at their own game if you think it’s so wrong 

[Gravel]

6 minutes ago, K1FOX said:

83% at 32,000 will soon become 75% at 40,000. Just don't see how we will consistently get close to 40,000. 

 

In my opinion this decline in interest is due to the club pushing this family atmosphere, restrictions and curbing any enthusiasm. European quarter final at a club that has 22,000 STH and struggling to sell out. People are just not interested and it's not the football on the pitch that is the reason. It's the sanitisation and the control the club are trying to impose.

Other factors that could be at play

 

This is Europe but it's tier 3 Europe.

Football has been a bit meh much of season.

Cost of living increase

Some residual COVID fear

Fans used to not going during COVID and following from armchair instead

 

Remember that even Man City struggle to sell Champions League tickets

[K1FOX]

1 minute ago, Gravel said:

Other factors that could be at play

 

This is Europe but it's tier 3 Europe.

Football has been a bit meh much of season.

Cost of living increase

Some residual COVID fear

Fans used to not going during COVID and following from armchair instead

 

Remember that even Man City struggle to sell Champions League tickets

Tier 3 or not it is a Quarter Final. 

Playing as well as we have all season atm with a chance of a trophy.

Arm chair fans because there isn't the same buzz of going to a game. Club want it this way

 

Cost of living i agree with but price has always been an issue in modern football.

 

This is all BEFORE am increase in capacity.