Solihullfox Posted 25 May 2022 Posted 25 May 2022 4 minutes ago, jayfox26 said: 9-10 out, who would you expect? Youri Kasper/Ward Soyuncu Mendy Amartey Perez Vestergaard Bertrand Lookman (if we don't sign him) Edit: forgot soumare Biggest issue would be finding buyers for the likes of Perez, Vestergaard and Bertrand, especially as Bertrand has been injured for months and he's also shite! Hamza too
Parafox Posted 25 May 2022 Posted 25 May 2022 31 minutes ago, Chocolate Teapot said: You can probably assume somewhere between 20 to 40m but it's the wages that are the issue not the finances of players transfers. We need to get the wage bill down. 9 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: I think 9-10 players out and 5-6 in ought to help do that. Somebody mentioned Cantwell. He won't come here without a big wage. I can't think of any 1st team players in the current top six teams that would come here without financial gain to them. You want quality, it's gonna cost. Hopefully our scouting teams will have earmarked some recruits that are on the fringes of their teams but have real potential.
wattolcfc Posted 25 May 2022 Posted 25 May 2022 13 minutes ago, jayfox26 said: 9-10 out, who would you expect? Youri Kasper/Ward Soyuncu Mendy Amartey Perez Vestergaard Bertrand Lookman (if we don't sign him) Edit: forgot soumare Biggest issue would be finding buyers for the likes of Perez, Vestergaard and Bertrand, especially as Bertrand has been injured for months and he's also shite! The best thing about losing all of those players would be the reduction in our wage bill. I bet if they all left it would free up around £350-400k per week.
jayfox26 Posted 25 May 2022 Posted 25 May 2022 7 minutes ago, Solihullfox said: Hamza too Yeh forgot hum as well. Can't see them all leaving. Think most likely we lose 7-8 and gain between 4 and 6 dependant on who is available. With less games with no Europe and the possibility of integrating some youth players into the first team, it's quality over quantity with new signings in my opinion. I'd rather only get 3 or 4 class players than get 5 or 6 that are like Soumare, Vestergaard etc
jayfox26 Posted 25 May 2022 Posted 25 May 2022 1 minute ago, wattolcfc said: The best thing about losing all of those players would be the reduction in our wage bill. I bet if they all left it would free up around £350-400k per week. True. And if we could target 3-4 top players, we could look to pay each around 90-100k each rather than looking at players on around £50-60k which isn't going to get us great quality. Of course you don't always have to pay high transfer fees and wages to get really good players but the hidden gems are few and far between. Getting another Fofana type signing would be incredible but we also have to consider that alot of our top targets will also likely be targets for the likes of Newcastle, West ham and villa, all of which are likely to offer higher wages than us, so could be a frustrating window. Ideally we could do with getting some business done early but reading what Top said, he seems to suggest it will be like a domino effect and we could be waiting for other big transfers between other clubs before we strike for our targets. 1
Ric Flair Posted 25 May 2022 Posted 25 May 2022 33 minutes ago, jayfox26 said: 9-10 out, who would you expect? Youri Kasper/Ward Soyuncu Mendy Amartey Perez Vestergaard Bertrand Lookman (if we don't sign him) Edit: forgot soumare Biggest issue would be finding buyers for the likes of Perez, Vestergaard and Bertrand, especially as Bertrand has been injured for months and he's also shite! Tielemans £25m Soyuncu £20m Praet £10m Soumare £10m Iheanacho £30m Choudhury free Vestergaard loan with option to buy Bertrand free Perez £5m Iversen / Ward £7m
brookfox Posted 25 May 2022 Posted 25 May 2022 I’m assuming when he says “player trading” it’s something you do through FBS, because for the life of me I’m not exactly sure what they do!
Scotch Posted 25 May 2022 Posted 25 May 2022 "Player trading" to me sounds like one of two things. Either he means a zero net spend, so we spend what we bring in. Or He's talking about the knock on effect of transfers so one team won't sell untill they get a replacement but that replacements team won't sell untill they bring someone in etc. This seems more likely in the context of him talking about big deals being lined up. I suppose it COULD mean swapping players but we don't see that very often so I'm ruling that out.
volpeazzurro Posted 25 May 2022 Posted 25 May 2022 5 hours ago, Leicester_Loyal said: Exactly what I was gonna type. Me too, if you don't aim high you'll not getting anywhere near. 1
sm1 Posted 25 May 2022 Posted 25 May 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Ric Flair said: Tielemans £25m Soyuncu £20m Praet £10m Soumare £10m Iheanacho £30m Choudhury free Vestergaard loan with option to buy Bertrand free Perez £5m Iversen / Ward £7m Think you're being a little conservative. I can see the likes of Cags and Youri going for near 30M each with the likes of Hamza and Perez going for 10M. All in all I think we can get 100M without selling Nacho (which I hope we don't do). Add another 30-40M from Top and we could have a healthy 130-150M budget. Edited 25 May 2022 by sm1 1
Ric Flair Posted 25 May 2022 Posted 25 May 2022 1 minute ago, sm1 said: Think you're being a little conservative. I can see the likes of Cags and Youri going for near 30M each with the likes of Hamza and Perez going for 10M. All in all I think we can get 100M without selling Nacho (which I hope we don't do). Add another 30-40M from Top and we could have a healthy 130-150M budget. Better to be on the conservative side because don't forget agents fees and signing on fees / player bonuses if sold without handing in a transfer request. If we can get around £90-100m in and even pay off or cover some of the wages for shit like Vestergaard, Bertrand and fringe players like Hamza and Perez then we'll free up a lot to get the majority of players we need.
lgfualol Posted 25 May 2022 Posted 25 May 2022 Not getting excited yet, as we'll no doubt bring in Aaron Lennon on loan in the final minutes of the window 1
CosbehFox Posted 25 May 2022 Posted 25 May 2022 2 hours ago, Parafox said: Somebody mentioned Cantwell. He won't come here without a big wage. I can't think of any 1st team players in the current top six teams that would come here without financial gain to them. You want quality, it's gonna cost. Hopefully our scouting teams will have earmarked some recruits that are on the fringes of their teams but have real potential. Cantwell is on loan at Bournemouth and been anonymous. I’ll be amazed if anyone of note signs him this summer
Raw Dykes Posted 25 May 2022 Posted 25 May 2022 1 hour ago, Scotch said: "Player trading" to me sounds like one of two things. Either he means a zero net spend, so we spend what we bring in. Or He's talking about the knock on effect of transfers so one team won't sell untill they get a replacement but that replacements team won't sell untill they bring someone in etc. This seems more likely in the context of him talking about big deals being lined up. I suppose it COULD mean swapping players but we don't see that very often so I'm ruling that out. I think it just means buying and selling players as normal. Just a strange, likely American, phrase. 2 1
weller54 Posted 25 May 2022 Posted 25 May 2022 36 minutes ago, lgfualol said: Not getting excited yet, as we'll no doubt bring in Aaron Lennon on loan in the final minutes of the window Prefer John!
coolhandfox Posted 25 May 2022 Posted 25 May 2022 (edited) The amount of people who seem to be troubled by the word trading. A definition: the action or activity of buying and selling goods and services Top is not say we have no money to spend....... Edited 25 May 2022 by coolhandfox 2
Clever Fox Posted 25 May 2022 Posted 25 May 2022 What Top has said is we've put the funding in place to facilitate Transfers. Which means we don't have to wait until we sell before we can sign someone. In short it's wheeling and dealing in the Market. If someone becomes available that we want, we can sign them without worrying about losing them to someone else, while we try to sell someone to finance the deal which is common among smaller Clubs. It's just further evidence that we're in a good place as a Club. I expect us to reduce the Squad by at least 3 players to no more than 22. But also to add more quality which is what we need, especially in Midfield and Defense. Plus the right Winger we so badly need. 3
UHDrive Posted 25 May 2022 Posted 25 May 2022 With outgoings as I've previously outlined, I'd assume circa £60mil in player sales. Incoming 5/6 players. Two of them (out of RW & CAM or CB) we'll be looking at anywhere between £30-40mil to buy per player for the quality that we will absolutely require to progress as a club in those positions. I'm hoping we don't get into a position like last year with signings such as Vestergaard as a low ball desperate squad filler in the remaining incoming. Fair enough to consider players such as Tarkowski on a free albeit inflated wages.
Ric Flair Posted 25 May 2022 Posted 25 May 2022 3 minutes ago, UHDrive said: With outgoings as I've previously outlined, I'd assume circa £60mil in player sales. Incoming 5/6 players. Two of them (out of RW & CAM or CB) we'll be looking at anywhere between £30-40mil to buy per player for the quality that we will absolutely require to progress as a club in those positions. I'm hoping we don't get into a position like last year with signings such as Vestergaard as a low ball desperate squad filler in the remaining incoming. Fair enough to consider players such as Tarkowski on a free albeit inflated wages. If we need to, we ought to look at loan signings thst don't necessarily contain options / obligations. Sick of teams on the continent and some of our rivals doing it and in the short term benefitting vastly. This rebuild won't be done in a summer, arguably next summer will be even bigger with many players out of contract in 2023.
jim5000 Posted 25 May 2022 Posted 25 May 2022 4 hours ago, JimJams said: That’s too much for Hamza. When we qualify for the Champions League we're going to need some home grown players. Hamza, Barnes, Dewsbury-Hall - They're here for the long haul
HankMarvin Posted 25 May 2022 Posted 25 May 2022 4 hours ago, wattolcfc said: The best thing about losing all of those players would be the reduction in our wage bill. I bet if they all left it would free up around £350-400k per week. More like about £870k according to the salaries reported here https://salarysport.com/football/premier-league/leicester-city/
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