Barwell Fox Posted 19 July 2022 Posted 19 July 2022 59 minutes ago, Pliskin said: He would not be 4th choice. Johnny showed signs of real regression last season, Amartey is probably one of the worst defenders in the league, only to be backed up by the other worst defender in the league and possibly the world in Vesty. Colwill is a talent, and he would probably end up starting every game. Your opinion - you are entitled to it, just as I am mine
Fox85 Posted 19 July 2022 Posted 19 July 2022 3 minutes ago, Barwell Fox said: Your opinion - you are entitled to it, just as I am mine No your not this is foxestalk. Surprised you don't get warning points and a temp ban for such a comment.
sacreblueits442 Posted 19 July 2022 Posted 19 July 2022 1 minute ago, Grebfromgrebland said: Was a low blow but we've had our time too when we could sign the likes of tielemans Madison fofana Daka Evans Castaneda, other teams would've been looking at us enviously. We're in a tight spot at the minute, hopefully it's temporary. ...despite our predicament at the moment, it feels like we have moved away from how we went about bringing players in, and now only look within a certain group of players, ignoring the obvious talent below this group!!! 1
Sol thewall Bamba Posted 19 July 2022 Posted 19 July 2022 2 hours ago, surrifox said: We aren’t comparable to palace -they are ,and will remain , the very definition of tin pot Can a club even be considered "tin pot" when they've never won a "tin pot" in their entire history? 1
CosbehFox Posted 19 July 2022 Posted 19 July 2022 I see Palace are the new Brighton and West Ham for Leicester supporters. A four point improvement last season and didn’t win as many games as Hodgson’s team the year before 2 1
Babylon Posted 19 July 2022 Posted 19 July 2022 1 hour ago, sacreblueits442 said: ...despite our predicament at the moment, it feels like we have moved away from how we went about bringing players in, and now only look within a certain group of players, ignoring the obvious talent below this group!!! What group of players? We've recently signed Fofana, Daka, Soumare. All were rated young talents in their country. 3
Simoken Posted 19 July 2022 Posted 19 July 2022 1 hour ago, Sol thewall Bamba said: Can a club even be considered "tin pot" when they've never won a "tin pot" in their entire history? I wish we were tin=pot-less like em cause at least wed all have a realistic take on footballing reality.
filbertway Posted 19 July 2022 Posted 19 July 2022 14 minutes ago, Cardiff_Fox said: I see Palace are the new Brighton and West Ham for Leicester supporters. A four point improvement last season and didn’t win as many games as Hodgson’s team the year before It's about long term though isn't it. I'd fancy if you surveyed Palace fans they'd probably be happier with the direction the club is heading in now than they were under Roy. Do you think they're going backwards under Viera because they didn't win as many games last season as Roy managed the season before? Seems a weird metric to choose. Especially when a lot of people fancied Palace for the drop last season. 1
Stadt Posted 19 July 2022 Posted 19 July 2022 1 hour ago, Cardiff_Fox said: I see Palace are the new Brighton and West Ham for Leicester supporters. A four point improvement last season and didn’t win as many games as Hodgson’s team the year before They had to revamp their squad last season, a genuine rebuild! The direction of travel at Palace is really encouraging (from their perspective), they've ditched an lod school reactive manager that did a job. Now they've got a much younger, talented squad that they keep adding to well. It's not surprising our fans are casting envious glances at a team making the sort of transfers we used to be lauded for. They had better underlying metrics than their actually tally suggests too. 4
coolhandfox Posted 19 July 2022 Posted 19 July 2022 1 hour ago, filbertway said: It's about long term though isn't it. I'd fancy if you surveyed Palace fans they'd probably be happier with the direction the club is heading in now than they were under Roy. Do you think they're going backwards under Viera because they didn't win as many games last season as Roy managed the season before? Seems a weird metric to choose. Especially when a lot of people fancied Palace for the drop last season. Be interesting to see how they do without Gallagher this season. I think place fans will be expecting more this time around. 2
Ric Flair Posted 19 July 2022 Posted 19 July 2022 4 minutes ago, coolhandfox said: Be interesting to see how they do without Gallagher this season. I think place fans will be expecting more this time around. Agreed, for all their new direction and improvement to their squad with the types of signings we have done well with and would like more of, I'm expecting them to push top 10 once again otherwise they'll be underachieving a touch IMO. I know if I were them and finishing not much better off than the previous dinosaur regime that I'd still much prefer this new model but you want some tangible improvements to go with it too. Plenty of clubs are like that, I know we take the piss out of the pickle we seem to be in but we deliver and others it's an absolute pipedream. 2
filbertway Posted 19 July 2022 Posted 19 July 2022 5 minutes ago, coolhandfox said: Be interesting to see how they do without Gallagher this season. I think place fans will be expecting more this time around. It will indeed, he was a big player for them. I realise that offends some people who don't like fans to appreciate other clubs and players Looking at Doucoure's stats it looks like he's a bit of an all action midfielder, good tackles, interceptions and progressive passes/carries. Doesn't look as much of a goalscorer, but if he's helping create goals then you'd expect a similar overall output. Expectations will certainly be higher this season and rightfully so. 1
Ric Flair Posted 19 July 2022 Posted 19 July 2022 Gallagher was pony for them from about Jan/Feb onwards. 3
filbertway Posted 19 July 2022 Posted 19 July 2022 33 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: Gallagher was pony for them from about Jan/Feb onwards. He was saving himself for the next season when he expected to be tearing it up alongside KDH! 2
coolhandfox Posted 19 July 2022 Posted 19 July 2022 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: Gallagher was pony for them from about Jan/Feb onwards. No unusual for young players to blow hot and cold, maybe the England stuff went to his head. Edited 19 July 2022 by coolhandfox 1
Ric Flair Posted 19 July 2022 Posted 19 July 2022 24 minutes ago, coolhandfox said: No unusual for young players to blow hot and cold, maybe the England stuff went to his head. Still looks a class prospect, hope Chelsea don't ruin him
Lambert09 Posted 19 July 2022 Posted 19 July 2022 (edited) people keep saying we have money but have to clear space, but if one of our targets is available we would get them, not let them go to a rival. otherwise, you can be sure we don’t have cash. If there’s money for 6 players, signing one target and carrying fringe players wages wouldn’t be a problem. If the money is tied up in other players wages…. then we don’t have it!!! that’s the difference people aren’t seeming to grasp. What we don’t know, is who are the top targets that we wouldn’t let slip Edited 19 July 2022 by Lambert09 1
Supergray22 Posted 19 July 2022 Posted 19 July 2022 13 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: Still looks a class prospect, hope Chelsea don't ruin him They have the track record.
CosbehFox Posted 19 July 2022 Posted 19 July 2022 2 hours ago, filbertway said: It's about long term though isn't it. I'd fancy if you surveyed Palace fans they'd probably be happier with the direction the club is heading in now than they were under Roy. Do you think they're going backwards under Viera because they didn't win as many games last season as Roy managed the season before? Seems a weird metric to choose. Especially when a lot of people fancied Palace for the drop last season. Personally I thought they were pretty much static between Vieira and Hodgson bar a very good defensive overall where they've improved by over 20 goals. They drew considerable games and had a huge knack of conceding late goals. In losing one trend, they gained another. The reality is though they need to show improvement this season else if it's a bit worthless.
CosbehFox Posted 19 July 2022 Posted 19 July 2022 8 minutes ago, Lambert09 said: people keep saying we have money but have to clear space, but if one of our targets is available we would get them, not let them go to a rival. otherwise, you can be sure we don’t have cash. If there’s money for 6 players, signing one target and carrying fringe players wages wouldn’t be a problem. If the money is tied up in other players wages…. then we don’t have it!!! that’s the difference people aren’t seeming to grasp. What we don’t know, is who are the top targets that we wouldn’t let slip In the case of Colwill, it's waiting for Chelsea to shift players
coolhandfox Posted 19 July 2022 Posted 19 July 2022 32 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: Still looks a class prospect, hope Chelsea don't ruin him Would love him here, I know wishful thinking. Wanted him after his WBA loan. 1
kingfox Posted 19 July 2022 Posted 19 July 2022 1 hour ago, filbertway said: It will indeed, he was a big player for them. I realise that offends some people who don't like fans to appreciate other clubs and players Looking at Doucoure's stats it looks like he's a bit of an all action midfielder, good tackles, interceptions and progressive passes/carries. Doesn't look as much of a goalscorer, but if he's helping create goals then you'd expect a similar overall output. Expectations will certainly be higher this season and rightfully so. Doucoure is the player we should have signed instead of Soumare, with Soumare already rumoured to be leaving, Doucoure would have been the ideal replacement, but all we can do is sit back and watch us do fvck all, in the hope that Doucoure flops. 5 minutes ago, Cardiff_Fox said: Personally I thought they were pretty much static between Vieira and Hodgson bar a very good defensive overall where they've improved by over 20 goals. They drew considerable games and had a huge knack of conceding late goals. In losing one trend, they gained another. The reality is though they need to show improvement this season else if it's a bit worthless. In numerous games last season they were seriously unlucky, they drew a handful of games that they should have won, if you look at it from that perspective, they would have been top 10. But when watching Palace last season, you could easily see what Vieira wanted to implement, that high intensity pressing style, especially from the midfield area, led to some exciting watchable performances. With how they’ve done in the transfer market over the past two summers, it’s very easy to be envy of them, because they’ve signed numerous players that would have been perfectly suited for us. Still annoys me that we didn’t go in for Olise, I had numerous debates on here last summer about wanting Joachim Andersen, instead we waited, waited and waited, then signed Vestergaard. Now this summer they’ve added talents in Ebiowei, Doucoure and probably Richards. Whether they crack top ten this season, or they under deliver, you can see a forward plan for a team like Palace, while with ourselves it feels like we’ve become stagnant.
filbertway Posted 19 July 2022 Posted 19 July 2022 21 minutes ago, Cardiff_Fox said: Personally I thought they were pretty much static between Vieira and Hodgson bar a very good defensive overall where they've improved by over 20 goals. They drew considerable games and had a huge knack of conceding late goals. In losing one trend, they gained another. The reality is though they need to show improvement this season else if it's a bit worthless. Agreed, they've set a nice base now. Had to rebuild the squad, this season I expect they'll be expecting to pick up 50 points minmum, probably aiming for 54+ would probably rank as a good season.
CosbehFox Posted 19 July 2022 Posted 19 July 2022 (edited) 29 minutes ago, kingfox said: In numerous games last season they were seriously unlucky, they drew a handful of games that they should have won, if you look at it from that perspective, they would have been top 10. But when watching Palace last season, you could easily see what Vieira wanted to implement, that high intensity pressing style, especially from the midfield area, led to some exciting watchable performances. With how they’ve done in the transfer market over the past two summers, it’s very easy to be envy of them, because they’ve signed numerous players that would have been perfectly suited for us. Still annoys me that we didn’t go in for Olise, I had numerous debates on here last summer about wanting Joachim Andersen, instead we waited, waited and waited, then signed Vestergaard. Now this summer they’ve added talents in Ebiowei, Doucoure and probably Richards. Whether they crack top ten this season, or they under deliver, you can see a forward plan for a team like Palace, while with ourselves it feels like we’ve become stagnant. I've heard it before - people don't use the same what if with City on here. If it was a City team letting in late goals, it wouldn't be unlucky. We'd have fans raging from that we are mentally weak. Again 'from that perspective', would have been top 10 is the same sort of stick derided by Leicester fans when it comes to missing out of the top 4. Olise is brilliant as a prospect is - scored two goals at a rate of one per 500 minutes; Lookman for example scored at a better ratio. We didn't wait, wait and wait as we were only in the market for a CB once Fofana was injured. I have seen City fans do it in the last twelve months with Brighton and West Ham as well - the reality is when the shit comes to shove, they will be in the same 'dead end' we are. The reality was as well on paper the capture of both Daka and Soumare looked astute. Edited 19 July 2022 by Cardiff_Fox 4
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