Spiritwalker Posted 19 July 2022 Posted 19 July 2022 2 minutes ago, Fox 4 Life said: Any actual news on this? CBA to read it all No. Wise choice. 1
sacreblueits442 Posted 20 July 2022 Posted 20 July 2022 6 hours ago, An Sionnach said: Colwill is not another Fofana , and Wesley cost a record fee for a teenage defender. He is very young and inexperienced . In some positions that can be worth the risk but at centre back that would not be advisable. He is probably a couple of years behind Chalobah who is still not a regular starter for Chelsea. If we are to replace Soyuncu we need somebody of similar age and experience. ...I can understand the need for experienced, but he has the quality to be very good and get out of our reach price-wise!!! If he has the temperament to hold his own in the backline then he will be a great asset. Age does not always make you a mature thinking player, we have seen with Soyuncu that this is not always the case.
Guest Col city fan Posted 20 July 2022 Posted 20 July 2022 I honestly wish people weren’t being so overly reliant on Evans. Evans is a model pro. He’s been a great signing for City But he’s injury prone! We can’t rely on him for a decent run of games because of his age and his tendency now to pick up niggles. Who comes in then… Soyuncu or Amartey? And then what?….. The club needs a better, fitter, younger first choice CB to play alongside Little Wes After the defensive debacle of last season, I can’t believe this hasn’t been addressed
CosbehFox Posted 20 July 2022 Posted 20 July 2022 1 hour ago, Col city fan said: I honestly wish people weren’t being so overly reliant on Evans. Evans is a model pro. He’s been a great signing for City But he’s injury prone! We can’t rely on him for a decent run of games because of his age and his tendency now to pick up niggles. Who comes in then… Soyuncu or Amartey? And then what?….. The club needs a better, fitter, younger first choice CB to play alongside Little Wes After the defensive debacle of last season, I can’t believe this hasn’t been addressed I don't think anyone is denying that - the reality is though there is no room to make that transfer. The club want Colwill, they currently can't get him
Dahnsouff Posted 20 July 2022 Posted 20 July 2022 Surely Palace buying Chris Richards is good for us in our pursuit of this guy? 1
moore_94 Posted 23 July 2022 Author Posted 23 July 2022 Barcelona in at the last minute to steal Kounde from Chelsea, might have to wait a bit longer...
Popular Post jayfox26 Posted 23 July 2022 Popular Post Posted 23 July 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, moore_94 said: Barcelona in at the last minute to steal Kounde from Chelsea, might have to wait a bit longer... It's actually a farce that Barcelona are billions in debt but can sign whoever they want and we can't get anyone until we shift anyone. I understand its 2 totally different clubs and their revenue dwarfs ours but it still doesn't hide the fact they are billions in debt, owe players wages and yet can still spend a fortune. The whole things stinks and just shows more corruption at the top of the game! Edited 23 July 2022 by jayfox26 10 2
Tielemans63 Posted 23 July 2022 Posted 23 July 2022 Just now, jayfox26 said: It's actually a farce that Barcelona are billions in debt but can sign whoever we want and we can't get anyone until we shift anyone. I understand its 2 totally different clubs and their revenue dwarfs ours but it still doesn't hide the fact they are billions in debt, owe players wages and yet can still spend a fortune. The whole things stinks and just shows more corruption at the top of the game! Agreed. What's going at Barca is a joke. 2
Popular Post urban.spaceman Posted 23 July 2022 Popular Post Posted 23 July 2022 4 minutes ago, jayfox26 said: It's actually a farce that Barcelona are billions in debt but can sign whoever we want and we can't get anyone until we shift anyone. I understand its 2 totally different clubs and their revenue dwarfs ours but it still doesn't hide the fact they are billions in debt, owe players wages and yet can still spend a fortune. The whole things stinks and just shows more corruption at the top of the game! Absolutely. The whole Super League Cartel are so corrupt. A window like ours in 2016 crippled us for YEARS, that's why we have to be so careful and cautious. Chelsea meanwhile can spaff £72m on Kepa only to replace him and bench him 2 years later, £72m on Havertz & £47m on Werner in the same window only for them to be shit, then £101m on Lukaku only to misuse him and loan him out a year later. Consequences? **** all. They even bought Drinkwater for £35m, paid him £30m over his contract and the only reasons were to up their English quotient and weaken a potential rival. 6 2
Bordersfox Posted 23 July 2022 Posted 23 July 2022 14 minutes ago, Tielemans63 said: Agreed. What's going at Barca is a joke. It's the classic too big to fail rubbish isn't it? One way or another they'll get bailed out when it all goes tits up and the footballing authorities will do jack shit about it. Lest we forget it wasn't that long ago the Spanish government were found guilty of state funding various clubs including Barca. Which makes it rather amusing that Laporta has been whining about state funded clubs like PSG. You really are the last club to say anything. 2 1
jayfox26 Posted 23 July 2022 Posted 23 July 2022 6 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said: Absolutely. The whole Super League Cartel are so corrupt. A window like ours in 2016 crippled us for YEARS, that's why we have to be so careful and cautious. Chelsea meanwhile can spaff £72m on Kepa only to replace him and bench him 2 years later, £72m on Havertz & £47m on Werner in the same window only for them to be shit, then £101m on Lukaku only to misuse him and loan him out a year later. Consequences? **** all. They even bought Drinkwater for £35m, paid him £30m over his contract and the only reasons were to up their English quotient and weaken a potential rival. Yep the whole thing stinks! Shows that our league win was a one off and highly unlikely to ever happen to a non "cartel" club again. 3
weller54 Posted 23 July 2022 Posted 23 July 2022 On 20/07/2022 at 07:48, Col city fan said: I honestly wish people weren’t being so overly reliant on Evans. Evans is a model pro. He’s been a great signing for City But he’s injury prone! We can’t rely on him for a decent run of games because of his age and his tendency now to pick up niggles. Who comes in then… Soyuncu or Amartey? And then what?….. The club needs a better, fitter, younger first choice CB to play alongside Little Wes After the defensive debacle of last season, I can’t believe this hasn’t been addressed Nelson? 3
KingsX Posted 23 July 2022 Posted 23 July 2022 Will Barca even be able to register all these guys? They are counting on (a) pushing De Jong out to avoid paying him their 17M IOU, and (b) selling off the second slice of their future TV revenues in a three month span. Otherwise the answer is no. Putting a heavy mortgage on the future, to sign the highest priced (and often overvalued) superstars now. Laporta is the same type of idiot as the guy he replaced. 1
UniFox21 Posted 23 July 2022 Posted 23 July 2022 1 minute ago, KingsX said: Will Barca even be able to register all these guys? They are counting on (a) pushing De Jong out to avoid paying him their 17M IOU, and (b) selling off the second slice of their future TV revenues in a three month span. Otherwise the answer is no. Putting a heavy mortgage on the future, to sign the highest priced (and often overvalued) superstars now. Laporta is the same type of idiot as the guy he replaced. The selling off the TV revenues is dangerous. Saw some stats that showed over a few years (I think it was 2017), Barca's TV rights have increased by ~£15m. Imagine what that will become over the next 5-10 years 1
KingsX Posted 23 July 2022 Posted 23 July 2022 3 minutes ago, UniFox21 said: The selling off the TV revenues is dangerous. Saw some stats that showed over a few years (I think it was 2017), Barca's TV rights have increased by ~£15m. Imagine what that will become over the next 5-10 years The business people who bought the TV rights will have more than imagined -- I'm sure they calculated high and low end projections and underbid even the low end. Management at Barca are desperate for revenues NOW, so they can spend on players NOW. So they not only accepted a fraction of value -- they are going back in three months to do it again with another slice. Can you imagine selling off 25% of our future PL prize money so we could sign De Kaetalare and the winger of Ric's dreams? Mind-blowing how that club is run. 1
gw_leics772 Posted 23 July 2022 Posted 23 July 2022 On 20/07/2022 at 07:48, Col city fan said: I honestly wish people weren’t being so overly reliant on Evans. Evans is a model pro. He’s been a great signing for City But he’s injury prone! We can’t rely on him for a decent run of games because of his age and his tendency now to pick up niggles. Who comes in then… Soyuncu or Amartey? And then what?….. The club needs a better, fitter, younger first choice CB to play alongside Little Wes After the defensive debacle of last season, I can’t believe this hasn’t been addressed I've just read your comments on soyuncu thread about keeping him,but on here you are deriding having to play him (or Amartey) Keep him for back up and turn down £10m+ when we need to sell to buy? Glad you're not in charge chap. It's a little confusing. Hang around soy you're a bit shit but I like you, just not enough to play you. 1
Lambert09 Posted 24 July 2022 Posted 24 July 2022 ben jacobs claiming he wants to stay at chelsea 🙃 surely not
honeybradger Posted 24 July 2022 Posted 24 July 2022 On 23/07/2022 at 10:16, urban.spaceman said: Absolutely. The whole Super League Cartel are so corrupt. A window like ours in 2016 crippled us for YEARS, that's why we have to be so careful and cautious. Chelsea meanwhile can spaff £72m on Kepa only to replace him and bench him 2 years later, £72m on Havertz & £47m on Werner in the same window only for them to be shit, then £101m on Lukaku only to misuse him and loan him out a year later. Consequences? **** all. They even bought Drinkwater for £35m, paid him £30m over his contract and the only reasons were to up their English quotient and weaken a potential rival. Chelsea will see a drop off soon, maybe this coming season. Their poor transfer business means theyve paid a lot of money for a squad that is relatively lacking in quality and youthfulness.
Sly Posted 24 July 2022 Posted 24 July 2022 Offer them Amartey as a swap …… then prey they accept it.
LFox99 Posted 24 July 2022 Posted 24 July 2022 9 minutes ago, Lambert09 said: ben jacobs claiming he wants to stay at chelsea 🙃 surely not Ben Jacobs is honestly worse than even Indykaila 1
lcfcbluearmy Posted 24 July 2022 Posted 24 July 2022 On 23/07/2022 at 09:56, jayfox26 said: It's actually a farce that Barcelona are billions in debt but can sign whoever they want and we can't get anyone until we shift anyone. I understand its 2 totally different clubs and their revenue dwarfs ours but it still doesn't hide the fact they are billions in debt, owe players wages and yet can still spend a fortune. The whole things stinks and just shows more corruption at the top of the game! Is it less that we can’t and more that we don’t want to so we don’t get into a similar situation of not being able to afford what we already have? Or is it all down to ffp?
Guest Col city fan Posted 24 July 2022 Posted 24 July 2022 On 23/07/2022 at 09:56, jayfox26 said: It's actually a farce that Barcelona are billions in debt but can sign whoever they want and we can't get anyone until we shift anyone. I understand its 2 totally different clubs and their revenue dwarfs ours but it still doesn't hide the fact they are billions in debt, owe players wages and yet can still spend a fortune. The whole things stinks and just shows more corruption at the top of the game! I thought they’d effectively mortgaged the club? As in, they are spending money NOW that they will accrue over the next few years. Apparently they are being transparent over this. It’s no secret The issue is more along the lines of whether you think this SHOULD happen in football? But then, a lot of things happen in football that blur the boundaries don’t they,
Popular Post Lambert09 Posted 24 July 2022 Popular Post Posted 24 July 2022 (edited) 15 hours ago, Col city fan said: I thought they’d effectively mortgaged the club? As in, they are spending money NOW that they will accrue over the next few years. Apparently they are being transparent over this. It’s no secret The issue is more along the lines of whether you think this SHOULD happen in football? But then, a lot of things happen in football that blur the boundaries don’t they, It’s not corruption, it’s just stupidity. in theory they are selling something that is worth 10m today for 10m. But the catch is that this is for something 5-7 years in the future, where with the expected inflation the product will actually be worth 35m. Essentially giving away tomorrows money for a fraction of what it’s worth because they need cash now. yes it’s transparent…. but it’s borderline insane. If they don’t get these deals correct (and they won’t) they will be the first super power to go bust. Edited 25 July 2022 by Lambert09 5
Guest Col city fan Posted 24 July 2022 Posted 24 July 2022 1 minute ago, Lambert09 said: It’s not corruption, it’s just stupidity. in theory what they are selling something that is worth 10m today for 10m. But the catch is that this is for something 5-7 years in the future, where with the expected inflation the product will actually be worth 35m. Essentially giving away tomorrows money for a fraction of what it’s worth because they need cash now. yes it’s transparent…. but it’s borderline insane. If they don’t get these deals correct (and they won’t) they will be the first super power to go bust. Yes I agree. I was pointing it out to the previous poster that it wasn’t corruption. Everyone knows what they are doing (well some know, it would seem) Borderline insanity is right though.
MPH Posted 24 July 2022 Posted 24 July 2022 24 minutes ago, Lambert09 said: It’s not corruption, it’s just stupidity. in theory what they are selling something that is worth 10m today for 10m. But the catch is that this is for something 5-7 years in the future, where with the expected inflation the product will actually be worth 35m. Essentially giving away tomorrows money for a fraction of what it’s worth because they need cash now. yes it’s transparent…. but it’s borderline insane. If they don’t get these deals correct (and they won’t) they will be the first super power to go bust. I wouldn’t call it stupidity, I’d call it a calculated gamble. There’s no guarantee he’ll fulfill his potential … could even get a serious injury or get in trouble with the law… be a disruptive influence… anything can happen in 5 years. Chelsea have so many youngsters they can afford to sell a few to fund their first team endeavors.
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