Levi Colwill

[FosseSpark]

It feels like it's necessary as a signal of change. i don't think we are in a position to lose a £25m+ asset for nothing (Soyuncu) and bring in someone no better for real cash. I'm betting that Rodgers is working on keeping Soyuncu, telling him that with Ndidi, KDH, Tielemans and decent fullbacks his life is going to be a lot more fun....

[Dahnsouff]

Just now, DezFox said:

Is amartey on loads aswell? 

Everyone in the EPL is on good money compared to other leagues, so it seems likely he would have to take cut, perhaps subsidised by us.  

[An Sionnach]

17 minutes ago, DezFox said:

We are certainly not rivals of Chelsea. I would say any of the top 6 teams would now be happy to sell to us with no really threat. Especially for players not in their plans. 

I would have thought Chalobah and Colwill are firmly in their plans particularly as their current CBs are getting on a bit.

[moore_94]

11 minutes ago, An Sionnach said:

I would have thought Chalobah and Colwill are firmly in their plans particularly as their current CBs are getting on a bit.

They currently have Silva, Koulibaly, Sarr, Chalobah, Ampadu, Colwill - and Reece James can play at right centre back in a 3, then also Azpilicueta if he doesn’t go to Barcelona

 

They are trying to add at least 1 possibly 2 more to that who would start ahead all of those except Silva and Koulibaly

 

That is A LOT of players ahead of Colwill, who are all older and more experienced

Edited 18 July 2022 by moore_94

[An Sionnach]

They do have a big gap between the two masters and their young pupils agewise , Soyuncu would have the right profile in age and  experience We shall see what happens no doubt over the next few weeks.

[turlo]

36 minutes ago, DezFox said:

Is amartey on loads aswell? 

reported to be on around 50k a week, so nothing staggering for an EPL squad player but more than a lot of leagues can afford. One of the Turkish clubs will come in for him late in the window and offer to take him off us for bugger all to compensate for matching his current wages

[Ashley]

2 hours ago, An Sionnach said:

I would have thought Chalobah and Colwill are firmly in their plans particularly as their current CBs are getting on a bit.

Chelsea are getting Kimpembe and Kounde. 

 

Chalobah will be back up and Colwill will probably move on. 

[RowlattsFox]

Of all the positions, surely centre is the one we'd have to sell/loan out before anyone comes in?

[LestaLad]

8 minutes ago, Ashley said:

Chelsea are getting Kimpembe and Kounde. 

 

Chalobah will be back up and Colwill will probably move on. 

You heard anything, mate?

[Merchant_Banker]

2 hours ago, FosseSpark said:

Potential Centre Backs: Fofana, Evans, Soyuncu, Ndidi, Amartey, Nelson, Brunt, Justin

 

We have 8 possibles and prefer a 2 centre back formation. 

We are really probably only looking for Vestergaard out and 1 other in. I think Rodgers is definitely intent on coaching Soyuncu back into the team and losing 1 of Amartey or Vestegaard

Fofana - First choice

Evans - First Choice

Soyuncu - Lacks confidence

Ndidi - Weakens midfield to play him as CB

Amartey - Energetic, but not very good

Nelson - inexperienced

Brunt - Inexperienced

Justin - Only in a 3

 

If we keep Amartey is 5th choice then we need 1 more, if Soyuncu doesn't improve we need 2. We should not let Vestergard anywhere near the matchday squad.

[MadsEmil]

12 minutes ago, Merchant_Banker said:

Fofana - First choice

Evans - First Choice

Soyuncu - Lacks confidence

Ndidi - Weakens midfield to play him as CB

Amartey - Energetic, but not very good

Nelson - inexperienced

Brunt - Inexperienced

Justin - Only in a 3

 

If we keep Amartey is 5th choice then we need 1 more, if Soyuncu doesn't improve we need 2. We should not let Vestergard anywhere near the matchday squad.

Fofana, Evans, Colwill, Vestergaard, Nelson, Brunt and then Ndidi/ JJ/ Timmy as CBs in a 3 should be plenty in a season without Europe

[FoxinNotts]

44 minutes ago, Merchant_Banker said:

Fofana - First choice

Evans - First Choice

Soyuncu - Lacks confidence

Ndidi - Weakens midfield to play him as CB

Amartey - Energetic, but not very good

Nelson - inexperienced

Brunt - Inexperienced

Justin - Only in a 3

 

If we keep Amartey is 5th choice then we need 1 more, if Soyuncu doesn't improve we need 2. We should not let Vestergard anywhere near the matchday squad.

I agree with this logic, to a degree. However, we shouldn't be even listing Ndidi. Having him play at center back is the route of all evil, as you've said. Same for Justin, really.

 

In truth, IF we could get the set piece situation sorted, Fofana, Evans, Soyuncu, Amartey and even Vestergaard should be enough to cover the two center back positions, with no European football tbh.

 

If one leaves, we'll have to replace them.

[CosbehFox]

Big fan of how Nelson is lauded as a potential PL player already. The kid hasn't played a minute of competitive blokes footy. He's miles off; albeit great prospect he is. 

[South Shire Fox]

3 minutes ago, Cardiff_Fox said:

Big fan of how Nelson is lauded as a potential PL player already. The kid hasn't played a minute of competitive blokes footy. He's miles off; albeit great prospect he is. 

Exactly the same as Brunt, played one competitive game of football at the age of 21 against a Watford C team and now hes the next Tony Adams

Edited 18 July 2022 by South Shire Fox

[Ric Flair]

1 minute ago, South Shire Fox said:

Exactly the same as Brunt, played one competitive game of football at the age of 21 against a Watford C team and now hes the next Tony Adams

He didn't play, he's never been given any first team appearances yet

[CrispinLA in Texas]

If we not in for him let's do a deal with Arsenal.....we give them Tielemans and they give us Saliba and 20m

Edited 18 July 2022 by CrispinLA in Texas

[majaco]

3 hours ago, FosseSpark said:

Potential Centre Backs: Fofana, Evans, Soyuncu, Ndidi, Amartey, Nelson, Brunt, Justin

 

We have 8 possibles and prefer a 2 centre back formation. 

We are really probably only looking for Vestergaard out and 1 other in. I think Rodgers is definitely intent on coaching Soyuncu back into the team and losing 1 of Amartey or Vestegaard

Why do you think Rodgers is definitely intent on keeping Soyuncu?  Soyuncu has not signed a new contract and did not get a kick at the end of last season after his subissive challenge in the Spurs game.  

 

To me Rodgers wants rid of Soyuncu and Vestegaard.  He seems to trust Amartey a lot more as a back up but I think would let him go to.  He wants one new centre back for sure; i reckon he'd rather have two.

[goose2010]

10 minutes ago, CrispinLA in Texas said:

If we not in for him let's do a deal with Arsenal.....we give the Tielemans and they give us Saliba and 20m

They have said Sailba is not for sale and i think they may rate him at slightly higher than 5m.

[moore_94]

4 minutes ago, goose2010 said:

They have said Sailba is not for sale and i think they may rate him at slightly higher than 5m.

Saliba might apparently try and leave if he isn’t guaranteed regular football by Arteta - especially with the World Cup coming up

[foxpleasure]

5 minutes ago, goose2010 said:

They have said Sailba is not for sale and i think they may rate him at slightly higher than 5m.

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/william-saliba-arsenal-transfer-atletico-madrid-marseille-b2123942.html

[CrispinLA in Texas]

7 minutes ago, foxpleasure said:

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/william-saliba-arsenal-transfer-atletico-madrid-marseille-b2123942.html

 

8 minutes ago, moore_94 said:

Saliba might apparently try and leave if he isn’t guaranteed regular football by Arteta - especially with the World Cup coming up

If Saliba wants to leave then the best option is here where he can play with his best mate Fofana at the back plus they played with each before so know how each other plays like. 

Saw bits of the game verses Everton in the US at the weekend and thought he looked really lively 

[Ashley]

1 hour ago, LestaLad said:

You heard anything, mate?

Nothing other than I've already put on here. 

 

We've got money. Need to ship people out before we bring people in. 

 

We like Colwill though. Have done for a while. - before anyone starts that isn't a hint

[coolhandfox]

48 minutes ago, majaco said:

Why do you think Rodgers is definitely intent on keeping Soyuncu?  Soyuncu has not signed a new contract and did not get a kick at the end of last season after his subissive challenge in the Spurs game.  

 

To me Rodgers wants rid of Soyuncu and Vestegaard.  He seems to trust Amartey a lot more as a back up but I think would let him go to.  He wants one new centre back for sure; i reckon he'd rather have two.

He would sell all 3 if he could.

[1972 Fox]

12 minutes ago, Ashley said:

We've got money. Need to ship people out before we bring people in.

I find it difficult to understand that so many on here are still not comprehending this bit.

 

Rodgers was quoted on Saturday saying exactly this but we've still got topic after topic on here with people asking and moaning about why we haven't signed anyone yet.

 

Some need to engage their brains and wake up and smell the coffee.

[Bordersfox]

1 minute ago, Blue Fox 72 said:

I find it difficult to understand that so many on here are still not comprehending this bit.

 

Rodgers was quoted on Saturday saying exactly this but we've still got topic after topic on here with people asking and moaning about why we haven't signed anyone yet.

 

Some need to engage their brains and wake up and smell the coffee.

All well and good I love a nice coffee but any idea why we still haven't signed anyone yet mate?