Jonny Evans new captain

[WoodyFox]

2 hours ago, HybridFox said:

Yet plays 90 mins in every Northern Ireland friendly 

A 10% Jonny Evans is better than anyone else they’ve got 

[smudgerfox]

2 hours ago, David Hankey said:

With 7 gone or going and possibly more it will be important to hang on to him next season just for his experience.

 

Everyone realises we won't get a full playing season out of him but his presence in and around the dressing room and training ground will be invaluable.

But David how do you honestly know  what kind of presence he has around the dressing room and training ground? Yes he may be one of those characters whose every word and action is an example to younger players to strive to improve and succeed. But equally he may be one of those cynical seen-it-all-before pros who likes nothing better than stirring it for the manager while expressing a world-weary cynicism about life at LCFC. We just don’t know and we can only judge on his rare on field performances which point to the former, and his public statements which have tended to the latter. Im taking the view that if Maresca wants him then fine, but I am deeply suspicious that the club is showing a typical generosity to a player who doesn’t necessarily deserve it. 

[TJQuik]

Just look at the title of the thread and reflect upon this last year. I know people say it doesn't suit his character but Vardy would have made a much better club captain than Evans, who has been completely silent the entire season.

[Vazman]

21 minutes ago, smudgerfox said:

But David how do you honestly know  what kind of presence he has around the dressing room and training ground? Yes he may be one of those characters whose every word and action is an example to younger players to strive to improve and succeed. But equally he may be one of those cynical seen-it-all-before pros who likes nothing better than stirring it for the manager while expressing a world-weary cynicism about life at LCFC. We just don’t know and we can only judge on his rare on field performances which point to the former, and his public statements which have tended to the latter. Im taking the view that if Maresca wants him then fine, but I am deeply suspicious that the club is showing a typical generosity to a player who doesn’t necessarily deserve it. 

Exactly this, well said as well.

[David Hankey]

54 minutes ago, smudgerfox said:

But David how do you honestly know  what kind of presence he has around the dressing room and training ground? Yes he may be one of those characters whose every word and action is an example to younger players to strive to improve and succeed. But equally he may be one of those cynical seen-it-all-before pros who likes nothing better than stirring it for the manager while expressing a world-weary cynicism about life at LCFC. We just don’t know and we can only judge on his rare on field performances which point to the former, and his public statements which have tended to the latter. Im taking the view that if Maresca wants him then fine, but I am deeply suspicious that the club is showing a typical generosity to a player who doesn’t necessarily deserve it. 

Well it's all supposition isn't it? I don't think Evans is the sort of player who wouldn't want to help out the younger/inexperienced ones.

 

As you say a lot will depend one what the new boss wants.

[filbertway]

37 minutes ago, TJQuik said:

Just look at the title of the thread and reflect upon this last year. I know people say it doesn't suit his character but Vardy would have made a much better club captain than Evans, who has been completely silent the entire season.

I dont see Vardy as a leader in the slightest

[KFS]

Hope he doesn’t sign tbh I

[sacreblueits442]

On 09/06/2023 at 13:13, 21st Century Fox said:

Thought it sounded a bit more ambiguous.

.. it sounds as if he is giving Evans his full backing!!!

  Saying that Evans pulled out all the stops to get fit to help the team.

  As a seasoned professional that would have been the least you would have expected for him to do. Evans issues such as the planta fasciitis can recur at anytime and we are then left wide open with matchday occurrences and long term recovery. I can understand this may be his last contract and he needs to get this right, but we owe the rest of the squad to be at our best at all times, Evan's is a risk we do not have to take.

[Fazzer 7]

1 hour ago, WoodyFox said:

A 10% Jonny Evans is better than anyone else they’ve got 

I don't think so. A fully fit Evans is past it. 

[Gamble92]

13 minutes ago, filbertway said:

I dont see Vardy as a leader in the slightest

Were Tielemans and Maddison leaders? 

 

The greatest player of all time and everything he's achieved, everyone looks up to him vs two players who wanted out. Admittedly we didn't exactly have great options but i know who i'd pick. 

Edited 17 June 2023 by Gamble92

[MPH]

17 minutes ago, filbertway said:

I dont see Vardy as a leader in the slightest

 

he wanted to be a club Ibiza rep didn’t he? That’s sort of leadership isn’t it?

[filbertway]

6 minutes ago, Gamble92 said:

Were Tielemans and Maddison leaders? 

 

The greatest player of all time and everything he's achieved, everyone looks up to him vs two players who wanted out. Admittedly we didn't exactly have great options but i know who i'd pick. 

Its a testament to the lack of characters that Rodgers brought into the squad. Easy to see how we were so spineless when its incredibly hard to point out 1 genuine leader.

[Gamble92]

1 minute ago, filbertway said:

Its a testament to the lack of characters that Rodgers brought into the squad. Easy to see how we were so spineless when its incredibly hard to point out 1 genuine leader.

I reckon Vardy was offered at least the vice captaincy when Albrighton got it but he never fancied it. 

 

I think he's taken the armband a few times when Evans has gone off hasn't he?

 

Anyway yeah one of many things we lacked this season was leaders prepared to call out the lack of running and effort.

[smudgerfox]

I suppose being a leader last season was difficult. Being captain would mean going into the dressing room and saying things like “the manager is right..” , “ we need to do our best for Brendan”, “it’ll all come good in the end.” With a squad rapidly losing faith in Brendan, and some even in open conflict with him, you probably wouldn’t get that much of a hearing, no matter how much your professionalism was respected. 
 

On the other hand our downfall last season was our hopeless defending. And if we had a leader in the dressing room helping the team improve that, a highly experienced and widely respected defender, a captain and a leader, nudging things, helping players adapt and play as a unit, helping them avoid mistakes, there wasn’t much evidence of its impact on the field. 

[TJQuik]

29 minutes ago, filbertway said:

Its a testament to the lack of characters that Rodgers brought into the squad. Easy to see how we were so spineless when its incredibly hard to point out 1 genuine leader.

Which was my point in my post. I didn't say Vardy is perfect, just that he's shown far more leadership this season than Evans.

[Ian Nacho]

Bin. 

[Samilktray]

2 hours ago, filbertway said:

I dont see Vardy as a leader in the slightest

A tough pill to swallow for some but I agree, never struck me as a leader or captain material 

[Ely fox]

6 hours ago, smudgerfox said:

I agree. If he’d shown leadership last season we wouldn’t be in this mess. Need a complete clear out of the old guard and a fresh start . If we need experience the likes of Cairney would be a better bet. Talk of a new contract makes me think we’re still taking generous emotional decisions rather than ruthless hard headed ones..

I hope they don’t give him a new three year contract on big wages. That would be ridiculous. But then it is Leicester we are talking about. I say get rid he is too old and injured most of the time. There r loads of younger centre backs on the market. Wages that can be spent on new players. 

[HankMarvin]

Out with the old, time to bed some new blood 

[Bluearmyfox28]

5 hours ago, MPH said:

 

he wanted to be a club Ibiza rep didn’t he? That’s sort of leadership isn’t it?

He can be my leader all day long  

[gurru991]

We could use Evans in the Championship if he could stay healthy !!

[longy]

Offload.

 

No animosity towards the guy but he'll spend the majority of the season on the sidelines. 

 

We don't need that in the championship. We need to form a defensive partnership that plays together week in, week out.

[Jaspa]

Wouldn't be surprised to see him join up with Rodgers at Celtic. With Kolo out of the picture Brodge might be looking to blood another pedigree CB into one of his coaches.

[Claudio Fannieri]

Quite possibly one of the worst captains in the recent history of our club, I say that on 2 levels, the first in terms of the performances and lack of unity on the pitch, this is a terrible indictment on Evans, who clearly had lost any ability to create a modicum of togetherness and team spirit. 
 

And secondly his own personal contribution on the pitch, which was pretty much non existent last season due to injury problems. 
 

For me it was a poor choice to make him captain and it backfired with massive consequences, a squad which appeared divided, a team with little leadership on the pitch due to its captain constantly injured, an absolute recipe for disaster. 
 

Personally I hope we get rid and look to bring in players who become the new leaders, I wouldn’t want Evans anywhere near the captaincy next season and I ain’t sure I want him making a significant dent into our wage budget to see him wheeled out to make no more than 10-15 appearances. 

[MGLCFC]

No coincidence that the defence looked far more organised on his return. 

I don't disagree that his injuries are a major worry, but we don't have anyone who can organise like he does, similar to what Huth did.

I'd give him another 1 year, unless we can bring Connor Coady in.