Guest ttfn Posted 27 August 2022 Posted 27 August 2022 1 minute ago, kingkisnorbo said: Comfortably in the worst 5 sides in the league as we speak. More than likely we are in the fight if we persist with this rabble. We have the money now that Fofana has gone. Getting a new manager in is worth more to us this season than signing a new RW and/or a CB.
Number 6 Posted 27 August 2022 Posted 27 August 2022 I think we probably have the footballing quality of a side in the top half. But we probably are mentally the weakest team in the division. I'd say we could get relegated but it's unlikely. Suspect a new manager would get a tune out of this bunch. Sorting the defence would be a good place to start. 2
Nalis Posted 27 August 2022 Posted 27 August 2022 Popcorn eating here while watching it all the sadist including the OP post, how on earth to you chaps function on every life?
Popular Post shailen Posted 27 August 2022 Popular Post Posted 27 August 2022 We have enough quality to not get relegated. We're in bad form and confidence is low. A win or two will change that. 5
kingkisnorbo Posted 27 August 2022 Posted 27 August 2022 1 minute ago, ttfn said: We have the money now that Fofana has gone. Getting a new manager in is worth more to us this season than signing a new RW and/or a CB. Unfortunately I’m in a frame of mind now where I don’t think top/board are even up to making the right decisions anymore. They won’t sack him and they’ll blow that dough on crap. 1
Sly Posted 27 August 2022 Posted 27 August 2022 We need someone like Diego Simeone ….. obviously not him, as he’s cost a bloody fortune …. And wouldn’t come here.
jock2612 Posted 27 August 2022 Posted 27 August 2022 Not panicking yet BUT I do think those running the club are jeopardising the Chairman's legacy of incremental improvement. The Fair Play Rules are not new and should have been anticipated . The atmosphere around the club is certainly the worse for some time. Really really do need a big result on Thursday !!! 1
Parafox Posted 27 August 2022 Posted 27 August 2022 (edited) 4 games in... FT at it's finest Not denying we have issues at the club but, c'mon... Edited 27 August 2022 by Parafox
Guest Col city fan Posted 27 August 2022 Posted 27 August 2022 There seems to just be some bizarre apathy around the whole club. I don’t know what the cause of this is? Does LCFC think it’s too good to be relegated so the status quo is thought to be acceptable? Is Top intending to sell up? Has Jon Rudkin gone mad? Who knows? What does seem to be real though is such a lack of urgency to do anything much at all? We’ve lost one of the best keepers the club has ever had… a title winner and club legend… and he’s just ‘gone’.. no send off or anything for the fans to wish him their goodbyes. We’ve signed no-one, we appear to have rejected decent bids for players like Vestergaard and Soumare. So we’re left with them when we needed to sell them. Soyuncu looks to have been just thrown in the bin? I’ve not known the club to be in such a state of apparent apathy. It is like no-one is in charge. A bit like the current government. It’s all very bizarre. What needs to happen this week is that Rodgers gets sacked and we bring in a manager with fresh ideas, or, if they keep Rodgers, we go out and sign some players. I just get the feeling that neither will happen… 🤷♂️
Fightforever Posted 27 August 2022 Posted 27 August 2022 17 minutes ago, Fightforever said: I sampled 4 of the of the worst defences in the league and added a starting centerback from each into a stats comparison for defensive actions per 90 this season. I wanted to compare them to our starting pair. The result is woeful. Amartey averages 4th place out of the 6 centerbacks on all of the stats apart from taking on dribblers where he has done much better than the sample his season. Evans meanwhile averages last place out of the sample. He has been shocking this season and statistically he has been terrible at everything. Eitherway the fact that one of our starting center backs is statistically worse than a centerback that starts for Borenmouth is extremely worrying. Essentially Evans is past it. For fun I also compared them to Bornemouth's pairing who are the worst in the league at defence currently and Bournemouths pair average better than both of our centerbacks at almost all of the stats in the sample. If our centerbacks are actually worse than Bournemouth's we are in HUGE trouble. 1
Tanya Posted 27 August 2022 Posted 27 August 2022 I think relegation is a possibility without fresh bodies and if we keep BR as coach. However I don't think we need to panic this early in the season boys. Calm your tits
Guest Col city fan Posted 27 August 2022 Posted 27 August 2022 12 minutes ago, shailen said: We have enough quality to not get relegated. We're in bad form and confidence is low. A win or two will change that. Oooh I’ve heard that before.. on here actually during the season we got relegated to League 1. Its not always about quality. It’s about when the rot sets in. Just like it did under Holloway.
Parafox Posted 27 August 2022 Posted 27 August 2022 10 minutes ago, kingkisnorbo said: Comfortably in the worst 5 sides in the league as we speak. More than likely we are in the fight if we persist with this rabble. See, this is exactly what I don't get. It's insulting. They aren't a "rabble", just underperforming right now and maybe that's down to poor coaching, poor fitness, lack of positivity, the hangover of last seasons failed expectations. Remember we finished 8th BTW. Not bad considering the things that were out of the teams/managers control. I'm sure they don't run out of the tunnel and think "**** it, I can't be arsed, my team-mates are shit and we're all a rabble". I genuinely believe that as professional sportsmen that have their own expectations of how they want to perform, they will try their best, maybe a few exceptions as in Forfana but he's gone anyway. Who do you think is part of this "rabble" of which you speak?
Guest Manini Posted 27 August 2022 Posted 27 August 2022 4 minutes ago, Col city fan said: Does LCFC think it’s too good to be relegated We’ve been here before. Mainly when we went down to League One. You’d like to think lessons have been learnt but I’m not so sure.
Guest Manini Posted 27 August 2022 Posted 27 August 2022 Just now, Manini said: We’ve been here before. Mainly when we went down to League One. You’d like to think lessons have been learnt but I’m not so sure. There you go @Col city fan you’ve just said it. My thoughts exactly.
Parafox Posted 27 August 2022 Posted 27 August 2022 1 minute ago, Col city fan said: Oooh I’ve heard that before.. on here actually during the season we got relegated to League 1. Its not always about quality. It’s about when the rot sets in. Just like it did under Holloway. He was shite. More shite than our current incumbent. Where is he now? Is he the new member of The Worzels?
murphy Posted 27 August 2022 Posted 27 August 2022 We're only four games in of course but it's not the league position that make me fear for a relegation fight, it is a number of things. So far we have thrown away two home bankers from winning positions with cowardly second half performances and lost to ten men today. We are conceding two gpals per game every game and somehow we are in a position where Dan Amartey is first choice CB. Te feelgood factor has gone and there appears to be a malaise gathering over the club. We are stymied by the fact that we can't replace our manager and we can't sign a single first team player, We have gone backwards with last years disastrous transfer window and loss of form for players like Wilf, Vardy and Justin. We have at least three players that don't want to be here in Soumare, Fofana and Tielemans and probably Soyuncu. We have one point from four games which woks ou at less than 10 points for a season which is Derby County levels of wretchedness We're not too good to go down. I can remember very good Leeds and West Ham sides that went down after having been top six the previous year. Apart from all of that, we're fine. 1
SouthStandUpperTier Posted 27 August 2022 Posted 27 August 2022 Even with Kasper and Fofana gone, and with no additions, there is still absolutely no way that this squad should be anywhere near relegation. The simple fact is that BR is not getting the best out of what he has, not even close. 1
kingkisnorbo Posted 27 August 2022 Posted 27 August 2022 4 minutes ago, Parafox said: See, this is exactly what I don't get. It's insulting. They aren't a "rabble", just underperforming right now and maybe that's down to poor coaching, poor fitness, lack of positivity, the hangover of last seasons failed expectations. Remember we finished 8th BTW. Not bad considering the things that were out of the teams/managers control. I'm sure they don't run out of the tunnel and think "**** it, I can't be arsed, my team-mates are shit and we're all a rabble". I genuinely believe that as professional sportsmen that have their own expectations of how they want to perform, they will try their best, maybe a few exceptions as in Forfana but he's gone anyway. Who do you think is part of this "rabble" of which you speak? By rabble I mean largely the manager, back room staff and the dead weight we have left (which is a lot).
daddylonglegs Posted 27 August 2022 Posted 27 August 2022 If today was the tipping point for you then you’ve not been paying attention for the last year. I thought we were pretty good today. Really fortuitous goal for their first goal, really poor finishing from Vardy & Perez unfortunate not to score. No two ways about it though, the squad as it stands is in a relegation battle.
OntarioFox Posted 27 August 2022 Posted 27 August 2022 You can point to Bournemouth getting tonked all you like - but they've actually won a game and sit two points ahead of us. We've thrown away two leads, losing 4 points in the process, and just let two in against ten men. We may well be bottom by the end of the weekend, and deservedly so.
Guest Col city fan Posted 27 August 2022 Posted 27 August 2022 26 minutes ago, Number 6 said: I think we probably have the footballing quality of a side in the top half. But we probably are mentally the weakest team in the division. I'd say we could get relegated but it's unlikely. Suspect a new manager would get a tune out of this bunch. Sorting the defence would be a good place to start. Just like last season, sorting the defence out is THE priority. And I don’t only mean Amartey. Evans has been every bit as bad. I honestly find it quite criminal that we are starting Premiership games in 2022 with a CB pairing of Evans and Amartey. We’ve gone miles back in that respect, compared to Huth/Morgan for instance. Amartey is championship quality. Evans is just past it. We must sort this situation out.
HybridFox Posted 27 August 2022 Posted 27 August 2022 10 minutes ago, OntarioFox said: You can point to Bournemouth getting tonked all you like - but they've actually won a game and sit two points ahead of us. We've thrown away two leads, losing 4 points in the process, and just let two in against ten men. We may well be bottom by the end of the weekend, and deservedly so. Sometimes think it would take a tonking like that to get us to wake up but it probably wouldn't and would happen again
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