Relegation

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2 hours ago, Bert said:

After 8 games? If we are in this position come April then you to start to worry. Things will turn. 

1 point in April? 😬

[Col city fan]

As I said three weeks ago, Bournemouth are the worst team in this division by a like. They’ll finish bottom 

[Lako42]

2 hours ago, pmcla26 said:

We lost to 10 man Chelsea ffs. 

I agree. ****ing pathetic. 

[ozvaldo]

Can’t believe I’m saying this, and I know it’s only 4 games in, but we’re leaking goals, we have next to no creativity and fight. 
 

I can’t see us getting out of this - especially as the gap widens. The longer this goes on, the harder it becomes for this group and manager to drag us out of it. 
 

Even under Nigel, when we looked dead and buried in the table, we were always in games and showed some fight. 
 

If they don’t freshen it up soon, we could go down. And, if the rumours are true that we’ve written off future earnings (including potential parachute payments) to cover our current mega loans, we could be royally ****ed if we do get relegated. 

[kiwiturk]

1 minute ago, Col city fan said:

As I said three weeks ago, Bournemouth are the worst team in this division by a like. They’ll finish bottom 

What a relief????

[Lako42]

Bottom 3 by the time we break for the WC. 

 

If we don't sack him at that point and get someone in the give us a kick up the arse then relegated by the end of the season. 

 

 

[RumbleFox]

For me it’s the constant capitulations. There seems to be something very wrong. The heads go down too easily. I don’t even think Brendan is a bad coach he’s just checked out. We need a change. Sooner rather than later. Why my sentences so short? Lazy? What’s happened? Sound like Incredible Hulk. Rumble smash. Rumble sad. Rumble no like football. 

[coolhandfox]

3 minutes ago, Lako42 said:

Bottom 3 by the time we break for the WC. 

 

If we don't sack him at that point and get someone in the give us a kick up the arse then relegated by the end of the season. 

 

 

He will be gone by then, he's already on borrow time.

[FoxyJim1987]

I've watched a lot of games this season and I can honestly say we are worse than most. What's happened in the past or how good players were is irrelevant. Here and now, we are among the worst teams I am convinced. Vardy is not the Vardy of old at all, players have no confidence, we have just lost our best defender, I can honestly see us in a relegation battle, nailed on. From what I've seen Bournemouth, Everton, us are the worst teams so far. We always look seconds from a mistake at either end of the pitch. Two years ago, with Chelsea in poor form and a man down after half an hour, I'd have been confident we would win. Today I knew we would still lose. I knew saints would win after they equalised, I knew Brentford would equalise after they got one back. It's getting boring, stale, predictable. Guys like Praet, Soumare, Perez, Daka, Kelechi, Amartey etc aren't good enough at all. Where's all our goals coming from? Maddison? He has to create them and score them?? It's going to be a disaster of a season.

[Jattdogg]

3 points off 12th and we have played arsenal and chelsea already. Not a great set of results but realistically i think the most we were going to get from the first 4 games was 4 or 6.

 

Yes with united next it doesnt look great but it's a long season. If after say 12 to 15 games we are in the bottom 2 then we have a gigantic problem. But again, this season for us is about safety plus 5 to 10 points. Anything more is icing in the cake.

 

Whats clear is that BR needs to be sacked. Lose 2-1 to a 10 men team (even if its chelsea is rubbish). Draw worst case. 

 

Keep the faith lads we can do this.

[Lambert09]

with fulham and forest looking hopeful. You have to wonder what other teams are contenders. bmouth are obviously number 1 right now but the others i’m looking at southampton and brentford (2 teams we’ve gifted points to) and everton. 

 

I think everyone else will be clear. so do we have enough to power past 3 of those … can’t say i’m confident. 

 

Worrying times that I was cheering a late arsenal winner 

 

[Thebluefox85]

I could see this before we even kicked a ball this season from last season and Bodgers ball! we are in big big trouble and if some fans think we ain’t and are still backing Bodgers then you need to wake up no signings no money no word from top to what wtaf he is doing! If he still 100% committed to the club does he want out does he want to sell part of Leicester? Said fofana is not for sale at all unless a huge world record bid comes in no sold him for 75m so no where near! It’s a massive week for this club the board either wake up sign some DECENT players and back Bodgers or sign no1 and sack him mid September then by January we could be in a real mess! I think as a manager Bodgers has been found out with his tactics teams know how to set up against us and beat us pretty easily atm and it just ain’t good so a so called elite manager! big changes needed and at least 3 quality players through the door but I can’t see it. CB and winger must be priority! Before the window shuts surely 

Edited 27 August 2022 by Thebluefox85

[Paninistickers]

The situation is nothing 2 wins in the spin won't sort out. 

 

I actually think it's a good time to have a bad run. Free falling in February is far more dangerous. 

 

We will, hopefully sooner rather than later, find a formula that works. 

 

Last season, we had lucky early season wins over wolves, Norwich, Brentford and a woeful Man U hat papered over the cracks a consequently we never sought to find a better formula 

[StriderHiryu]

32 minutes ago, Col city fan said:

There seems to just be some bizarre apathy around the whole club.

I don’t know what the cause of this is? Does LCFC think it’s too good to be relegated so the status quo is thought to be acceptable?

Is Top intending to sell up?

Has Jon Rudkin gone mad?

Who knows? What does seem to be real though is such a lack of urgency to do anything much at all?

We’ve lost one of the best keepers the club has ever had… a title winner and club legend… and he’s just ‘gone’.. no send off or anything for the fans to wish him their goodbyes. 
We’ve signed no-one, we appear to have rejected decent bids for players like Vestergaard and Soumare. So we’re left with them when we needed to sell them.

Soyuncu looks to have been just thrown in the bin?

I’ve not known the club to be in such a state of apparent apathy. It is like no-one is in charge. A bit like the current government.

It’s all very bizarre.

What needs to happen this week is that Rodgers gets sacked and we bring in a manager with fresh ideas, or, if they keep Rodgers, we go out and sign some players.

I just get the feeling that neither will happen…

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Summed it all up for me Col, it's absolutely bizarre. I've never known a time like this at Leicester, certainly not under the King Power ownership.

 

Rodgers should rightly take pelters, but this is the same exact team as last season, but weaker. With Schmeichel and Fofana leaving, that's two of the better parts of our first choice back 4 gone, Ricardo is out for possibly the entire season. A team that conceded so many goals last season is not going to dramatically improve without changes, be it at managerial or personnel level. I actually feel sorry for Rodgers. If we are going to bin him, do it. He might have a big contract but they could say it's "by mutual decision" and pay off part of it, or amortise the cost over time. You don't have to pay it all off at once! If they are gonna keep him, then support him. Doing neither achieves nothing. Having a dead man walking achieves nothing. King Power have been utterly ruthless multiple times before with Ranieri and Shakespeare, so what's going on?

 

Usually I'd think such a thread is an over reaction, but it's not. It's not because we have a bad squad or team, but because we are quite literally sleep-walking to our own demise. As you say it's like the current government waiting to see who wins the election race, so doing nothing about the impending energy crisis, or like Boris at the start of Coronavirus when he unnecessarily waited for ages before locking the country down.

 

We've got goals in our team, and that's why I don't think we can go down. Even if Vardy was injured, Daka, Nacho and Maddison would score enough. We've got to fix the defence though, it's like we are starting every game 2-0 down at the moment.

 

Utterly bizarre turn of events.

[Sly]

Joking aside, anything below a mid table finish is unacceptable. 
 

People will stamp the feet and point to the fact where we’ve come from, history etc.

 

However, our wage bill is amongst the highest in the league.

 

We have good players, however I’m now sure that the batch of players have stepped up to the plate.
 

The issue is that we are over paying for the players we have. 
 

Our net spend over the past 5 years is -£94.5m. That places us at 15th of the 20 clubs in the league. By comparison, Forest have spent more than that, this season. 
 

Come January, the owners might need to make a choice on if they gamble to stay in the league by spending if we aren’t careful. 
 

Our issue is the defence though. For 18 months, we’ve been unable to keep clean sheets. That’s included playing the likes of Fofana, Evans in semi form, Soyuncu, Vestergaard. This wasn’t an issue when Rodgers took over. That is coaching and tactics. 
 

NDidi looks like a broken player. He just isn’t the beast that he once was. 

 

Father Time is catching up with Vardy, as his overall contribution and spear heading of our attack isn’t as effective as it once was. Daka isn’t as able to drop into playing as a lone striker, as he’s still adapting to a higher level of tactical awareness. 
 

The persistent selection of Amartey in a ball retention based setup is worrying. He isn’t capable of playing centre back at this level, as he panics when pressed. 
 

Also, what’s happened to the set piece and in game analysis teams? Are they currently non existent? Who on Earth suggested we take Youri off today and bring on NDidi? 

[Fightforever]

 

1 hour ago, Fightforever said:

 

I sampled 4 of the of the worst defences in the league and added a starting centerback from each into a stats comparison for defensive actions per 90 this season. I wanted to compare them to our starting pair.

 

The result is woeful. Amartey averages 4th place out of the 6 centerbacks on all of the stats apart from taking on dribblers where he has done much better than the sample his season.

 

Evans meanwhile averages last place out of the sample. He has been shocking this season and statistically he has been terrible at everything.

 

Eitherway the fact that one of our starting center backs is statistically worse than a centerback that starts for Borenmouth is extremely worrying.

 

Essentially Evans is past it.

 

 

 

To add to my previous posts I decided to get at it again but this time evaluate the our fullback pairing at their defensive ablilties. I took a fullback from each of the worst defensive teams in the league and I went to compare them all the results are frankly shocking.

 

In tackling stats Justin averages 4th of the 6

In tackling stats Castagne averages 5th of the 6

 

In the Vs Dribblers section Justin averages 3rd out of the 6

In the Vs Dribblers section Castagne averages 4th out of the 6

 

In the pressures section Justin averages 3rd out of the 6

In the pressures section Castagne averages last out of the 6

 

In the blocks and interceptions scection Justin averages 4th out of the 6

In the blocks and interceptions scection Castagne averages 5th out of the 6

 

 

In conclusion out of the sample Castagne overall is the 5th worse fullback and Justin is just above him at 4th. Looking at the post I quoted we essentially have the worst back 4 in the league when it comes to the ability to perform defensive actions. For all the attacking benefits Justin and Castagne bring they are bad at defending and when comparing our back 4 to the other backlines in the league our back 4 simply cannot defend.

 

On current form our defence will drag us into a relegation battle. Also man for man we have one of if not the worst backlines in the league when it comes to how well they perform defensive actions. This doesn't mean they are bad players overall. Their ball progressing ability and ability to pass could be much better than the other backlines in the league but when it comes to how well our backline can pressure, tackle, block, intercept etc our current back 4 is one of if not the worst in the league.

Edited 27 August 2022 by Fightforever

[Lionator]

I know it seems depressing but we’re literally one Vardy or Barnes ‘hot spell’ away from being well clear of any mess. It’ll be okay. Barnes looked good today. 

[Fightforever]

4 minutes ago, Lionator said:

I know it seems depressing but we’re literally one Vardy or Barnes ‘hot spell’ away from being well clear of any mess. It’ll be okay. Barnes looked good today. 

We are conceding 2.5 goals per game at the minute. That means we would have to score 2 or 3 goals a game on average to just get a draw. We can't just attack our way out of this mess our defence is simply too bad.

Edited 27 August 2022 by Fightforever

[The_77]

Only relegation fodder would take blessings like a decimated Chelsea backline and an early red card in a game that’s a free hit…and sit back to play in our own half for 60 minutes and two goals before we started going for it. 

[TJQuik]

1 minute ago, The_77 said:

Only relegation fodder would take blessings like a decimated Chelsea backline and an early red card in a game that’s a free hit…and sit back to play in our own half for 60 minutes and two goals before we started going for it. 

That's the Rodgers special. He's living in 2010.

[Phenom]

38 minutes ago, Col city fan said:

As I said three weeks ago, Bournemouth are the worst team in this division by a like. They’ll finish bottom 

We’re #19! We’re #19! We’re #19! 

[KrefelderFox666]

I don't think we are in the Top 3 worst teams this season, there is worse than us. However, it doesn't take much to get dragged in, ask Everton or West Ham.

 

My concern is that I cannot see where our first win is coming from? Villa at home has to be, then the next best chance arguably Bournemouth away. Forest at home if we can get our act together. Fingers crossed by mid November we are comfortably in midtable territory.

[oohaahmustafa]

No chance we go down. Brendan will get the boot in a few games and we'l be reet. Got a top 10 squad easy. 

[RonnieTodger]

I can’t think of a single fixture that I’d be confident of us winning

[Sol thewall Bamba]

47 minutes ago, Lionator said:

I know it seems depressing but we’re literally one Vardy or Barnes ‘hot spell’ away from being well clear of any mess. It’ll be okay. Barnes looked good today. 

We are not 👍