Bournemouth (A)..pre match thread.

[st albans fox]

2 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

The question I keep asking myself is why though? What is the point, I'm not sure the club has considered our long term future and our manager and whether they are mutually exclusive. The longer he stays here whilst we regress is actually more costly to us. Its cheaper to take the in year hit of sacking him, given any prospective new manager, in a new era where we desperately need to cut costs will earn less than half of his salary. So the net effect this season is the salary of any new manager but the next 2-3 years we save on what Rodgers is on.

 

History also is hugely against Brendan, I can't recall too many examples of successful managers in similar circumstances to ours that hit a sustained drop off, with a seriously iffy reputation in the transfer market and turns it around. Some could say he's a victim of his own success but if he hadn't achieved what he'd achieved here he'd have been gone a long time ago.

 

I just think we're in an annoying cycle now where we pad along with very minor possibility of improvement but more likely dance with relegation and he's going anyway. He's not sticking around for half of what he's on here after a few more years here so in light of that, I ask myself and others the same question, what's the point? 

perhaps

we have someone coming after the WC and Brendan will be allowed to limp along until then or

if we stay in a relegation fight then Brendan will agree to go on reduced pay off to save his reputation -   or

top believes he can turn it around and when it becomes clear he can’t then he will accept the inevitable 

 

[Ric Flair]

5 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

- a draw at Bournemouth might be considered by many to be not good enough but the owner will take draws away and wins at home 

We've a lot of ground to make up on such results though. The only away games we won last season were against newly promoted sides or sides that got relegated so a draw or defeat today is another red flag for this sad decline of our team.

[Supergray22]

1 hour ago, CosbehFox said:

My face at 3:10pm today 

I’ll start a crowdfunding thread mate. I’m so sorry, no one deserves that. 

[st albans fox]

3 minutes ago, filbertway said:

 

I look forward to our expected wins v arsenal, Liverpool, Chelsea and man city

arsenal, liverpool and Chelsea at home will surely be under a different coach ……

[sacreblueits442]

11 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

History also is hugely against Brendan, I can't recall too many examples of successful managers in similar circumstances to ours that hit a sustained drop off, with a seriously iffy reputation in the transfer market and turns it around. Some could say he's a victim of his own success but if he hadn't achieved what he'd achieved here he'd have been gone a long time ago.

...how often have you seen this scenario, where a failing manager has supportive new staff recruited by the club, that the props him up!!!

  He may just have fallen on to his feet with a possible kindred spirit with Knudsen and the new procurement guy (Glover) will no doubt become the eye that Rodgers cannot use,  to deposit and integrate players into the team.

  We may have just found the two parts of the jigsaw, which will supplement Rodger's shortcomings. 

[filthyfox]

On 05/10/2022 at 07:01, phoneticerror said:

Looking forward to this one. First visit to their shed.

Its a nice, intimate stadium.  You will get to see the players really up close, and the noise is kept in really well too.

[indierich06]

24 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

The question I keep asking myself is why though? What is the point, I'm not sure the club has considered our long term future and our manager and whether they are mutually exclusive. The longer he stays here whilst we regress is actually more costly to us. Its cheaper to take the in year hit of sacking him, given any prospective new manager, in a new era where we desperately need to cut costs will earn less than half of his salary. So the net effect this season is the salary of any new manager but the next 2-3 years we save on what Rodgers is on.

 

History also is hugely against Brendan, I can't recall too many examples of successful managers in similar circumstances to ours that hit a sustained drop off, with a seriously iffy reputation in the transfer market and turns it around. Some could say he's a victim of his own success but if he hadn't achieved what he'd achieved here he'd have been gone a long time ago.

 

I just think we're in an annoying cycle now where we pad along with very minor possibility of improvement but more likely dance with relegation and he's going anyway. He's not sticking around for half of what he's on here after a few more years here so in light of that, I ask myself and others the same question, what's the point? 

Genuinely think it's because we can't afford to pay his compensation and the board think there's a slim chance he could still turn things around. It's a huge gamble. 

[filbertway]

24 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

arsenal, liverpool and Chelsea at home will surely be under a different coach ……

A man can dream

[The Quick Brown Fox]

I'd still like to see a 442 with Vardy and Daka.

 

Only issue is who to play in the middle. Maybe KDH and Madders. 

[whoareyaaa]

6 minutes ago, browniefox said:

I'd still like to see a 442 with Vardy and Daka.

 

Only issue is who to play in the middle. Maybe KDH and Madders. 

no need to change a winning side this has been his downfall to much tinkering.

[squidsworth]

With Southampton and wolves facing tricky trips this weekend, a win here should see us out of the relegation zone. So hopefully that can be the impetus for the players. Whilst it's hardly an achievement, it'll be nice to see 3 worse performing teams than us again. I think we may deploy the score more than you tactics again, and these lot away are a bit of a bogey for us. But I think we'll come out on top, 3-2 or 4-2 maybe?

[Deeg67]

52 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

arsenal, liverpool and Chelsea at home will surely be under a different coach ……

No way those three sides are changing managers anytime soon…

[J. James]

1 hour ago, sacreblueits442 said:

...she really seemed to have aged very quickly!!!

  The hair has been dyed and the school girl look has been transformed into an overbearing matriarch. 

  It is always quite noticeable when leaders leave their positions how much younger they start to look, pressure ages you very quickly.

 

Reminds me of someone else, don't know why

[South Shire Fox]

Hope im wrong but think we will struggle today, our record at Bournemouth is appalling

[whoareyaaa]

1 hour ago, st albans fox said:

perhaps

we have someone coming after the WC and Brendan will be allowed to limp along until then or

if we stay in a relegation fight then Brendan will agree to go on reduced pay off to save his reputation -   or

top believes he can turn it around and when it becomes clear he can’t then he will accept the inevitable 

 

Probably 2 and 3, and tbf if we win the next three or four he will have a point as to why he did not sack him but I also think BR has realised what he was doing was not getting the best out of the team although he was defeinetly playing up with the subs, tactics and comments.

 

They probably sat down had a chat and as Brendan said the seasons started against Forest.

 

 

[sdb]

Praet for Kelechi at h/t anyone? 😵‍💫🤢

[Fazzer 7]

I know Forest are crap atm. But I thought Rodgers got it right on Monday. What/where could he have done things differently or better. 

[kingkisnorbo]

I say every time that this is a violently winnable game but I’m fairly certain we haven’t actually won there since the championship. 
 

A very frustrating 1-1.

[Wasyls Pec Deck]

I think we’ll win today but I’ve hedged my bets a bit and put wanky Solanke in my fantasy team 

[The Quick Brown Fox]

1 hour ago, whoareyaaa said:

no need to change a winning side this has been his downfall to much tinkering.

I think the score line flattered us. This formation has failed alot prior to this. Sticking to a team that won is not always the correct decision. If he plays what he considers our best team and plays to their strengths then yes do that. 

[Manley Farrington-Brown]

2 hours ago, indierich06 said:

Genuinely think it's because we can't afford to pay his compensation

As has been said many times, by many people, if this isn't the load of nonsense that it almost certainly is, then it doesn't matter who the manager is because the club is completely screwed. Finished.

 

Luckily however it almost certainly is the load of nonsense that it almost certainly is.

[Wymsey]

Having a random thought that it's going to be a very big scoreline..

Think Vardy, in particular, will be up for this to break his barren run.

[StanSP]

I worry that someone like Lerma will go in hard on Maddison and get him injured badly  

[steveherbe]

2 hours ago, filthyfox said:

Its a nice, intimate stadium.  You will get to see the players really up close, and the noise is kept in really well too.

It's an awful stadium. Had a tour of it a couple of weeks ago, and behind the facade it's a dump. Away dressing room is a disgrace, more like a National League facility.

[Manley Farrington-Brown]

18 minutes ago, steveherbe said:

Away dressing room is a disgrace, more like a National League facility.

Good. It'll do these spoiled millionaire brats some good. What do you flipping need in a changing room except a bench to sit on to do your boots up and maybe a hook to hang your coat if it's cold out?