Brendan Rodgers fibs and contradictions

[mod hero]

Remember when he told Monkey Allen he weren’t gonna lose his job?

[Stadt]

11 minutes ago, filbertway said:

Must be tough coming from a free scoring Atalanta to a team that you thought was free scoring but just as the manager is having a personality transplant.

I watched a Castagne Atalanta highlights video recently and he looks so dynamic, amazing what Rodgers has done to our fullbacks because he's so risk averse now.

[Arriba Los Zorros]

17 hours ago, AKCJ said:

Saying that the club just aims to stay in the division after 5th, 5th and 8th placed finished.

 

Constantly trying to convince anyone that we're a pressing team.

 

When he says "That's what I was brought in to do" when we beat a big 6 club but "we can't compete against these sides" when we lose.

This sums the man up. Take credit when we win, deflect and make excuses when we lose.

 

And because he has a charming personality on first impression, until you scratch below the surface, it works well for him.

[21st Century Fox]

"I don't need a Chapstick".

[Pliskin]

“We’re not playing with a lack of confidence”

 

[Scotch]

The worst one for me was saying that we had been overachieving/exceeding expectation with an FA cup win and two 5th place finishes despite saying on his first day at the club, the expectations were to win trophies and compete for Europe. 

[VLC86]

Pass me the bleach, I’ve seen too much.

[foxile5]

There was a poster on here who was suggesting that actually the fans are wrong for interpreting Rodgers wrongfully and it was our fault. 

 

I hope he's reading this thread. 

[martyn]

The constant comments on us being a young team or "inexperienced at the level" are completely disingenuous. It's annoying he has never been challenged in the media about that one.

[Ric Flair]

How about him claiming Evans and Faes were excellent when Spurs blasted us 6-2? 

[Ross 'LCFC' Turner]

What about after the Arsenal defeat this season when he said we have been forced into a change of shape because we have no wingers.

 

Albrighton had just been announced as the new vice captain & his own signing Perez who he has played RW his whole Leicester career were both sat on the bench.

[Dames]

17 hours ago, Matt said:

Ooooh, i've got a good one!

 

3-0 v West Brom. (3-0 at half time).

 

Despite sealing the win in the first half, the Foxes boss was not pleased with his team's overall performance until after the break.

 

"First half, I wasn't happy, to be honest," Rodgers said. "Too many loose passes, too many mistakes, given the ball away too much."

 

"Second half, we could control the game better. They obviously changed their shape and really blocked it up."

 

He said: "We then were able to work the ball side to side and control any thread they may have. We defended set pieces well to keep a clean sheet, so yes, a good win for us.

 

"You obviously want to score more goals if you can, but we didn't have to. We could control, we could conserve the ball, keep the positions on the field, pass it, and like I say, they did that very well."

 

I can't actually take it seriously even to this day, i'd like to say he was taking the piss and it was all fibs, unfortunately we all know too well it isn't. 

 

This night told me alot about Rodgers, confirmed alot about Rodgers and is everything that is wrong with him, his style and modern football.

 

The second half is actually the way he wants to play football. Disgusting.

He was definitely auditioning for a bigger job at this point. He was doing his absolute best Pep cosplay, I'm surprised he didn't shave his head.

 

It just proves that it has never been about whats best for the club but whats best for Rodgers. 

[smudgerfox]

Surprised no one has mentioned his set piece defending explanation …”we lack the right profile of player..” 

 

Hang on you’ve managed a team in the EPL for three seasons and you’ve just realised your defenders can’t  defend at corners and free kicks ! And you tell the world about it with months to the next transfer window when you could introduce the “right profile of player.” And then you don’t make any changes in the squad anyway! So the morale-sapping goals continue and you literally do nothing until the team’s set piece defending has become an international joke…

[davieG]

21 hours ago, davieG said:

 “There’s a lot that goes on behind the scenes that people would be unaware of. Cags is a good man and it’s been hard for him.

“Again I go back, when I came in here he was fourth-choice centre-half. He had the chance then and did really well in that first season. I think it’s then probably been a mixed bag for him.

 

“But what you’re always looking at is the two. When you’re putting centre-halves together, it’s about the two, it’s not about two individuals. They’ve got to work together.

“Cags has come in and has had various injuries, he’s had moments where he’s not been able to train and has been out of the team. But then of course, we had Wesley Fofana and Jonny Evans for a good part of that.

“He’s there, he’s working, and if we feel then that he’s in that right moment to come in, we will do that. But you can only judge on what you’re seeing in training. But him, his professionalism has been superb, but you’ve just got to always pick the team that’s the best collective.”

 

Yet he played 40 games in 19/20 mostly with Evans 45 games when we finished 5th conceding 41 goals in 38 games. So he's shown he is compatible with Evans and his "professionalism has been superb"  which I assume includes training well. 

 

So why is he prepared to use every other combination but not include Soyuncu? We're bottom of the league Soyuncu must be capable of helping us improve on that position.

 

So he's either protecting Soyuncu from some personal or fitness issue he has or he just doesn't like the guy.

 

Can there be another reason

"Jonny won’t make the game," Rodgers said at LCFC Training Ground. "We’ll see how he is for the weekend. Çağs has an issue with his knee so we'll have to assess that. He’s had it since he came back from the internationals. He has had a scan on that, so we have to wait for the result of that. "He hasn’t been where he wants to be in terms of his fitness, so we’ll see."

 

All other injuries are regularly mentioned why only now does he say this. Must have read my post. 

[Dan]

5 hours ago, Stadt said:

There's so much we've forgotten about I reckon, we could stomach some of the shit he came out with between 19-21, it's only now it's unbearable.

 

 

Another stock phrase I hate, "We want to press the game".

That's his qualitee / intensitee line. Says it every game. No idea what it's meant to mean.

[Dan]

The West Brom one is mad really. I didn't catch it at the time and as has been alluded to, we were doing better back then and you do brush over a lot of these things when that's the case, but it was one of those things that used to get repeated on here a lot - I thought it was another prince of punjab like gag. It's hard to believe he said it. It's at worst absurd delusion, at best it's just trying to look clever and as if you're seeing something everyone else is missing (which he has previous for).

[StanSP]

One win in 10 but he doesn't want to change formation and can see that 'it has worked well'. 

 

 

[Stadt]

When he arrived he said he'd never want a tagetman, if he wanted somebody tall he'd sign a lamppost or something because it's one dimensional  

[Arriba Los Zorros]

4 hours ago, Stadt said:

When he arrived he said he'd never want a tagetman, if he wanted somebody tall he'd sign a lamppost or something because it's one dimensional  

Brendan hates tall men. I wonder why 🤔

[Sunbury Fox]

7 hours ago, Dan LCFC said:

The West Brom one is mad really. I didn't catch it at the time and as has been alluded to, we were doing better back then and you do brush over a lot of these things when that's the case, but it was one of those things that used to get repeated on here a lot - I thought it was another prince of punjab like gag. It's hard to believe he said it. It's at worst absurd delusion, at best it's just trying to look clever and as if you're seeing something everyone else is missing (which he has previous for).

It wasn't just the post match comments after the West Brom game either. It was his behaviour during the game. He was literally booting water bottles around the technical area in the first half.  Quite a change from his normal note taking and polite clapping routine.....

Edited 18 October 2022 by Sunbury Fox

[Dames]

10 hours ago, Sunbury Fox said:

It wasn't just the post match comments after the West Brom game either. It was his behaviour during the game. He was literally booting water bottles around the technical area in the first half.  Quite a change from his normal note taking and polite clapping routine.....

He really thought he was on the cusp of a huge move and wanted to draw attention to his perfectionist approach to his style.

 

I still believe that is the match where the psychological damage was done to the team that has lead to the point we are at now. 

[foxsake]

It must have been mentioned already , but one of the most egregious examples is him saying he's had no conversations with the board, following his succession of abject failures.

 

If he can't be straightforward about that, why believe anything that falls from his lips?..

 

It really pissed me off.

 

There was a guy (the younger from the father/son duo) on the BBC podcast this week who really went to town on Brendan and all of his shortcomings, including his self-contradictions. Just wanted to say well done, if you're reading. Really enjoyed you cutting through all the haze to underline the reasons why he should have gone ages ago.

[fuchsntf]

On 17/10/2022 at 18:15, davieG said:

 “There’s a lot that goes on behind the scenes that people would be unaware of. Cags is a good man and it’s been hard for him.

“Again I go back, when I came in here he was fourth-choice centre-half. He had the chance then and did really well in that first season. I think it’s then probably been a mixed bag for him.

 

“But what you’re always looking at is the two. When you’re putting centre-halves together, it’s about the two, it’s not about two individuals. They’ve got to work together.

“Cags has come in and has had various injuries, he’s had moments where he’s not been able to train and has been out of the team. But then of course, we had Wesley Fofana and Jonny Evans for a good part of that.

“He’s there, he’s working, and if we feel then that he’s in that right moment to come in, we will do that. But you can only judge on what you’re seeing in training. But him, his professionalism has been superb, but you’ve just got to always pick the team that’s the best collective.”

 

Yet he played 40 games in 19/20 mostly with Evans 45 games when we finished 5th conceding 41 goals in 38 games. So he's shown he is compatible with Evans and his "professionalism has been superb"  which I assume includes training well. 

 

So why is he prepared to use every other combination but not include Soyuncu? We're bottom of the league Soyuncu must be capable of helping us improve on that position.

 

So he's either protecting Soyuncu from some personal or fitness issue he has or he just doesn't like the guy.

 

Can there be another reason

This is answered..by again having an injury  again coming after an International...And up for another Scan.

So we have some pretentious cover up,

or his knocks means he's worse off than Evans & really is way off match fit.

 

Rodgers has been either poorly informed from medi-team/ Soyuncu these last few weeks...or he is playing

some immature game..and is not up front on Soyuncus game-fitness...

[Tielemans63]

If we're all sick of it can you imagine how the players must feel? We probably don't get to hear 80% of his waffle.

[Vestan Pance]

"Great character" when he appears to either fallen out with or got rid of anyone with "great character" (maybe excluding madders and Vardy).

 

By and large the players brought in under BR have been of mild character.

Edited 19 October 2022 by Vestan Pance