Group H: Portugal, Ghana, Uruguay, South Korea

[Manley Farrington-Brown]

If that's a f**king handball, what's the f**king point?

[Super_horns]

Does accidental or not come into play now ?

Either way was harsh I thought .

[SouthStandUpperTier]

Just now, TJQuik said:

I love how the ref pointed over Suarez's shoulder

Needs to be careful dangling any limbs around Suarez.

[Guest Lcfc82]

At least VAR has put an end to all the controversial decisions 

[Arkie Bennett]

Ridiculous decision.

[davieG]

I ****ing hate football.

[st albans fox]

I mean if he gives it then you could have an argument as to whether var should overturn it but for var to say that a huge error is astonishing- presumably fifa didn’t realise ronaldo had been subbed …..

[EastAnglianFox]

Even after walking back from the screen I don't think the ref knew what to give but tosspot Suarez getting straight into his face made it easier to give

[Diffco]

I'd nut the ref if I was Uruguayan 

[Brainy]

FOAD Fernandes

[DennisNedry]

Obviously a horrendous decision, so bad in fact that it makes me wonder whether referees have been specifically told " If you are told to review a decision at the monitor, take this as instruction that you are wrong and MUST reverse your decision"

[SouthStandUpperTier]

Just now, DennisNedry said:

Obviously a horrendous decision, so bad in fact that it makes me wonder whether referees have been specifically told " If you are told to review a decision at the monitor, take this as instruction that you are wrong and MUST reverse your decision"

They are probably not told, but it is what is implied.

[Suzie the Fox]

Should Ronaldo get given the goal? Naaah, didn't touch it.

[foxes_rule1978]

His hand is in a natural position, he doesn’t know anything about where the ball is going… it was impossible for him to not touch it with his hand. Total farce 

[Fox in the North]

 

[Super_horns]

Only got given as he was the last man so to speak I suspect but no intent and he just fell on the ball .

[coolhandfox]

The only two people who think that is handball are the ref and the VAR official.

 

Unbelievable decision.

 

It's not technology that the problem it's the people using it.

[Nod.E]

Clearly the rule makers can't get the handball rule right. The same debates have been going around in circles for years and years.

 

Just be done with it and in instances of contentious handballs, give an indirect free kick. 

 

I've always thought the notion of penalties being given is pretty flawed in many instances anyway. Just because it's in the box, doesn't mean a goal was as likely as it is when you get a penalty. 

 

Why should the ball hitting somebody's hand in the box, potentially nowhere near a goal or in a scenario resembling a chance lead to a free shot on goal from 12 yards out? 

 

So many games, especially big games, come down to one goal. It's a low-scoring sport. To make something as innocuous as a ball hitting somebody's hand so decisive makes a bit of a mockery of the sport when you think about it. If that's what it all comes down to, what's the point? 

Edited 28 November 2022 by Nod.E

[Super_horns]

I can see your points and they are good but only issue where is the threshold for an indirect free kick and penalty?

 

We’d probably get no consistency over that either .

[Nod.E]

1 minute ago, Super_horns said:

I can see your points and they are good but only issue where is the threshold for an indirect free kick and penalty?

 

We’d probably get no consistency over that either .

Without doubt, but at least this nonsense would decide fewer games.

[Unabomber]

Has to be a bribe going on somewhere with that decision. It is literally not a penalty in the rules of the game. So how with the assistance of video would that be given unless dodgy. 

[Nalis]

Referee seemed to love the spotlight a bit too much. Seemed a bit too convenient to point to the spot over Suarez's shoulder.

[trabuch]

4 minutes ago, Unabomber said:

Has to be a bribe going on somewhere with that decision. It is literally not a penalty in the rules of the game. So how with the assistance of video would that be given unless dodgy. 

I don't know which upsets me more. Thinking that the game is controlled by the competent but corrupt, or the incompetent. I suspect it is a bit of both, with a smattering of capable people who actually love the game.

[Arriba Los Zorros]

Didn't watch this one because its the equivalent of watching 'prime' Nuno Wolves vs 'prime' Dyche Burnley. Aka an entirely cagey, cynical, defensive fest. Very surprised there was a goal at all. Was it actually any good? 

[Super_horns]

49 minutes ago, Unabomber said:

Has to be a bribe going on somewhere with that decision. It is literally not a penalty in the rules of the game. So how with the assistance of video would that be given unless dodgy. 

Someone had a bet for a 2-0 Portugal win ?

 

A very poor call but it didn’t decide the  game in reality tbh

 

Probably means he won’t get another game though if he has gone against IFAB guidelines.

 

Seems to be one of the top refs outside of Europe too so ought to know better .

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alireza_Faghani

 

Didn’t exactly give the penalty straight away either after looking at the screen which suggests even then he was unsure and not fully confident in his decision making .

 

The VARs were from Qatar and one from Australia who had previously been reported for getting two key penalty decisions wrong in his homeland.

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_FIFA_World_Cup_Group_H

Edited 28 November 2022 by Super_horns