Castagne to Fulham

[Bluearmyfox28]

Not a chance we get £20m for him let alone over £20m… if he goes I would imagine it will be between £12m-£15m.

[Ginger_Filbert]

[fox_favourite]

I think for all parties, this needs to be resolved. He quite clearly doesn't want to be here any more, we have players to cover, so I think we need to cut the asking price to about £10-12m still not too bad and move on. We don't need a player that is unhappy. It quite clear that Juventus have unsettled the player and have used this tactic to get him cheap, but as much as I hate it, I think we have to budge a little. Though not a loan, that is not the solution! 

 

Been a good servant, but now's the time to move on. 

Edited 28 July 2023 by fox_favourite

[weller54]

10 minutes ago, fox_favourite said:

I think for all parties, this needs to be resolved. He quite clearly doesn't want to be here any more, we have players to cover, so I think we need to cut the asking price to about £10-12m still not too bad and move on. We don't need a player that is unhappy. It quite clear that Juventus have unsettled the player and have used this tactic to get him cheap, but as much as I hate it, I think we have to budge a little. Though not a loan, that is not the solution! 

 

Been a good servant, but now's the time to move on. 

Been a good servant?.. 

Really? 

Been very mediocre at best!! 

[Sunbury Fox]

We still have way too many players in the squad who probably don't really want to be here. This is as big an issue as the lack of attacking/ creative players currently on the books.

[ozleicester]

8 minutes ago, weller54 said:

Been a good servant?.. 

Really? 

Been very mediocre at best!! 

I think hes been a good servant, played up to his level and never saw a complaint or failure to try?

[frany104]

He is very average. Sell him, get a decent fee and wages off the books. Ricardo and Justin are better than him. 
 

 

[st albans fox]

Re ffp- A loan with obligation isn’t hugely different to a sale (ref amortisation of his original fee ) if we get a decent loan fee of several million 

 

But it’s also not so different for the buying club at 12/15m so we may as well push for permanent for now 

[mozartfox]

8 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

Re ffp- A loan with obligation isn’t hugely different to a sale (ref amortisation of his original fee ) if we get a decent loan fee of several million 

 

But it’s also not so different for the buying club at 12/15m so we may as well push for permanent for now 

But does a loan give us cash to re-invest in the re-build?

[markko]

If they want him they should cough up. You can't hope to get him on the cheap and on loan and then pay in installments. We need the funds in now and we need all his wages off the books. He is not all that and if he does not want to be here, let him go.

[st albans fox]

19 minutes ago, mozartfox said:

But does a loan give us cash to re-invest in the re-build?

approx numbers for this years ffp

We bought him for around £22m on five years 

that’s 4.5m per year amortised into the accounts 

if we sell him now then we take 9m off any incoming  fee. His loyalty bonus is probably approaching a million 

 

So we sold him for £12m we would take £2m into the positive column 

 

if we loan him (with obligation) on a 2.5m loan fee then we stick £2m in the negative column. (But we take 6.5m into the positive column next season ) 
 

his wages are not our concern either way so that’s neutral. 

 

if we keep him then that’s £7m in the neg column (assuming his reduced wage is 50k) 

 

 

Edited 28 July 2023 by st albans fox

[dbtcity]

13 minutes ago, mozartfox said:

But does a loan give us cash to re-invest in the re-build?

I guess that’s when we hit up our old pals at Macquarie bank  

Edited 28 July 2023 by dbtcity

[teblin]

Listening to Enzo in his interview with radio Leicester I think we’ll see a busy week next week.

[CrazyKopCorner]

I used to like Timmy as a player and he seems a decent lad but now I can't wait to see the back of him - Get rid - take £10m if we have to and offload 

[mozartfox]

4 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

approx numbers for this years ffp

We bought him for around £22m on five years 

that’s 4.5m per year amortised into the accounts 

if we sell him now then we take 9m off any incoming  fee. His loyalty bonus is probably around approaching a million 

 

So we sold him for £12m we would take £2m into the positive column 

 

if we loan him (with obligation) on a 2.5m loan fee then we stick £2m in the negative column. (But we take 6.5m into the positive column next season ) 
 

his wages are not our concern either way so that’s neutral. 

 

if we keep him then that’s £7m in the neg column (assuming his reduced wage is 50k) 

 

 

Thanks. If his wage is indeed UKP50,000 per week x 52  = UKP 2,600,000.  So going down the loan route the fee covers his wages.  Meaning we could use this saving to help with the re-build.   Not so bad if the obligation is to buy.

 

[AKCJ]

£12m or so is a perfectly reasonable demand IMO.

 

He's nowhere near as bad as people on here think he is.

[LeamingtonFox93]

Sausage of a man. Off you fu*k

[Finn Claw II]

Would you rather play for Juve at one of the most famous clubs in Europe or Leicester in the Championship- of course he wants the move, who wouldn’t.

 

Loan with obligation to buy would be fine as that just defers payment but a loan just runs down his contract.

[JimJams]

1 hour ago, fox_favourite said:

I think we need to cut the asking price to about £10-12m still not too bad and move on.

So about 15 million Euros then.

[Steve Earle]

1 hour ago, weller54 said:

Been a good servant?.. 

Really? 

Been very mediocre at best!! 

If he's what you call mediocre the next few seasons might come as something of a disappointment to you...

[sacreblueits442]

39 minutes ago, dbtcity said:

I guess that’s when we hit up our old pals at Macquarie bank  

...monies from Macquarie do not come under "trading revenue" and would not be eligible to be used to finance players coming in!!!

  Actual sales such as Castagne,  Daka, Nacho,Praet or Ndidi is what we need to offload  in order to meet our needs.

[moore_94]

6 minutes ago, sacreblueits442 said:

...monies from Macquarie do not come under "trading revenue" and would not be eligible to be used to finance players coming in!!!

  Actual sales such as Castagne,  Daka, Nacho,Praet or Ndidi is what we need to offload  in order to meet our needs.

Pretty sure what he means is that if it was a loan with an obligation to buy we could just use Macquarie to get the obligation transfer fee now instead of next summer

 

Which we would be allowed to with Macquarie

Edited 28 July 2023 by moore_94

[Micky]

36 minutes ago, LeamingtonFox93 said:

Sausage of a man. Off you fu*k

And here we have a fine example of a modern day internet ****. 

[dbtcity]

Just now, moore_94 said:

Pretty sure what he means is that if it was a loan with an obligation to buy we could just use Macquarie to get the obligation tranfer fee now instead of next summer

 

Which we would be allowed to with Macquarie

This is what I meant… getting Italian sides to commit to an obligation to buy could be an issue though

[Guest Kopfkino]

56 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

approx numbers for this years ffp

We bought him for around £22m on five years 

that’s 4.5m per year amortised into the accounts 

if we sell him now then we take 9m off any incoming  fee. His loyalty bonus is probably approaching a million 

 

So we sold him for £12m we would take £2m into the positive column 

 

if we loan him (with obligation) on a 2.5m loan fee then we stick £2m in the negative column. (But we take 6.5m into the positive column next season ) 
 

his wages are not our concern either way so that’s neutral. 

 

if we keep him then that’s £7m in the neg column (assuming his reduced wage is 50k) 

 

 

An actual obligation i.e it’s unconditional, or anything that’s non-substantive is accounted for this year anyway. As it’s a contract that neither party can renege on, it’s for all intents and purposes a permanent transfer with a payment structure.

 

It likely wouldn’t be though as the only benefit to the buying team is on cash flow but that can be dealt with otherwise

Edited 28 July 2023 by Kopfkino