Tactics Under Maresca

[lcfc-fan1126]

[Arriba Los Zorros]

1 hour ago, lcfc-fan1126 said:

If this is one of Enzos tactics get him out. Send him to the Tigers instead. 

[Steve Earle]

1 hour ago, lcfc-fan1126 said:

'initial enquiries have took place' 

[Lillehamring]

3 hours ago, fuchsntf said:

Fair dues..Though the Posh game was nothing to hang too a technical philosophy.Manager first getting to see players in action,with just a sprinkling of his ideas....Each game he will hope to tinkle bit by bit on tactics. He might or might know more on who he sees leaving..after the Northampton game.

But again only minute glimpses of his tactical plans,only small implications.

 

But I was putting the idea like Simpson,

But Justin technically more gifted when pushing forward,but like Simpson covering CBs,when they drive forward..

Sure - early days - apparently JJ was used slightly differently to Ricardo - mor as an orthodox RB.  I'm not sure what JJ's best position is, because of his injuries he's actually still a very inexperienced player and despite early promise has not proven to have any kind of end product. 

[teblin]

1 hour ago, Arriba Los Zorros said:

If this is one of Enzos tactics get him out. Send him to the Tigers instead. 

That raw pace and power might work in the championship as he’ll get more opportunities.

[Mickyblueeyes]

If the comments here that Rudkin wasn’t involved in the interview process for Maresca and STILL remains at the club, Top and his ownership could be more damaging to the club than I initially thought. It’s scary to think where he might leave us.

Edited 14 July 2023 by Mickyblueeyes

[Nick]

8 hours ago, Steve Earle said:

'initial enquiries have took place' 

I’m in awe that people actually even consider this account sone kind of a source of information.

[Trent Steel]

Looked to be the same tiki taka crap that Rodgers played when we lost to the posh

 

Nothing ever changes. We won't get promoted doing that

[boosmanana]

28 minutes ago, Trent Steel said:

Looked to be the same tiki taka crap that Rodgers played when we lost to the posh

 

Nothing ever changes. We won't get promoted doing that

Thanks for enlightening us all, Trent.

[Arriba Los Zorros]

11 hours ago, teblin said:

That raw pace and power might work in the championship as he’ll get more opportunities.

Hmmm that's a good point, makes me think of Jeff Schlupp who eventually came good at that level. And lloydy too. 

[Ric Flair]

1 hour ago, Trent Steel said:

Looked to be the same tiki taka crap that Rodgers played when we lost to the posh

 

Nothing ever changes. We won't get promoted doing that

We don't currently have the players to get promoted. Counter attacking football would be no different in that sense. Look at the squad. The lack of pace, creativity and guile right now is massive. 

 

Maresca needs 3-4 new players minimum in midfield and support to the attack and I'm not convinced he'll get them.

 

I get the need to improve our defence first but we already have a nucleus of capable defenders in Souttar, Faes, Justin, Kristiansen, Thomas, Ricardo etc, they were just coached very badly. We have lost or are about to lose our entire triplet of creative players in Tielemans, Maddison and Barnes and the urgency to replace or even improve our options (we've long needed more options out wide and in attacking midfield) is non existent to the naked eye.

 

I'm sure it'll all be fine though, like the last 2 years have 🤥

 

 

[AKCJ]

1 hour ago, Trent Steel said:

Looked to be the same tiki taka crap that Rodgers played when we lost to the posh

 

Nothing ever changes. We won't get promoted doing that

Never understand why Leicester fans think that passing the ball and holding the ball is a bad thing.

[Mark 'expert' Lawrenson]

1 hour ago, AKCJ said:

Never understand why Leicester fans think that passing the ball and holding the ball is a bad thing.

It’s not when done correctly and with purpose. 

[filbertway]

1 hour ago, Ric Flair said:

We don't currently have the players to get promoted. Counter attacking football would be no different in that sense. Look at the squad. The lack of pace, creativity and guile right now is massive. 

 

Maresca needs 3-4 new players minimum in midfield and support to the attack and I'm not convinced he'll get them.

 

I get the need to improve our defence first but we already have a nucleus of capable defenders in Souttar, Faes, Justin, Kristiansen, Thomas, Ricardo etc, they were just coached very badly. We have lost or are about to lose our entire triplet of creative players in Tielemans, Maddison and Barnes and the urgency to replace or even improve our options (we've long needed more options out wide and in attacking midfield) is non existent to the naked eye.

 

I'm sure it'll all be fine though, like the last 2 years have 🤥

 

 

 

I feel sorry for anyone that watches us next season unless we get in some quality recruits. 

 

Most games I imagine will be us passing the ball, with no ability or raw pace to get in the final 3rd, waiting for that mistake that costs us a goal.

 

We've got 3 weeks to find some quality.

[Simmo86]

1 hour ago, filbertway said:

 

I feel sorry for anyone that watches us next season unless we get in some quality recruits. 

 

Most games I imagine will be us passing the ball, with no ability or raw pace to get in the final 3rd, waiting for that mistake that costs us a goal.

 

We've got 3 weeks to find some quality.

3 weeks ideally but 7 weeks in reality.

[bmt]

4 hours ago, Trent Steel said:

Looked to be the same tiki taka crap that Rodgers played when we lost to the posh

 

Nothing ever changes. We won't get promoted doing that

Tiki taka hahaha.

[Dames]

4 hours ago, AKCJ said:

Never understand why Leicester fans think that passing the ball and holding the ball is a bad thing.

Because the stuff we've been served up since the first half of Rodgers first full season has been diabolical. Even when results were going our way we have been incredibly hard to watch for a long time.

 

4 hours ago, Ric Flair said:

We don't currently have the players to get promoted. Counter attacking football would be no different in that sense. Look at the squad. The lack of pace, creativity and guile right now is massive. 

 

Maresca needs 3-4 new players minimum in midfield and support to the attack and I'm not convinced he'll get them.

 

I get the need to improve our defence first but we already have a nucleus of capable defenders in Souttar, Faes, Justin, Kristiansen, Thomas, Ricardo etc, they were just coached very badly. We have lost or are about to lose our entire triplet of creative players in Tielemans, Maddison and Barnes and the urgency to replace or even improve our options (we've long needed more options out wide and in attacking midfield) is non existent to the naked eye.

 

I'm sure it'll all be fine though, like the last 2 years have 🤥

 

 

It absolutely reeks of 'too good to stay down' just like last seasons 'too good to go down'. The mentality at the club is horrid, no grasp of the situation they find themselves in. 

[Lillehamring]

On 14/07/2023 at 12:04, filbertway said:

 

I feel sorry for anyone that watches us next season unless we get in some quality recruits. 

 

Most games I imagine will be us passing the ball, with no ability or raw pace to get in the final 3rd, waiting for that mistake that costs us a goal.

 

We've got 3 weeks to find some quality.

This seems to ignore Daka?  Not saying we don't need more creativity in there, but i don't think we should forget how good he can be, given the chance.

[Dahnsouff]

On 14/07/2023 at 11:04, filbertway said:

 

I feel sorry for anyone that watches us next season unless we get in some quality recruits. 

 

Most games I imagine will be us passing the ball, with no ability or raw pace to get in the final 3rd, waiting for that mistake that costs us a goal.

 

We've got 3 weeks to find some quality.

I am pleased we are fixing our major problem first, the time for attacking signings comes after, and quite rightly. Why on Earth would you do it any other way? It would be baffling after recent seasons shocking defensive performances.

 

We do seem to have an issue with shifting players, but it’s not only us it seems, unless we send them all on loan like Leeds.

[Lillehamring]

23 hours ago, Dames said:

Because the stuff we've been served up since the first half of Rodgers first full season has been diabolical. Even when results were going our way we have been incredibly hard to watch for a long time.

 

It absolutely reeks of 'too good to stay down' just like last seasons 'too good to go down'. The mentality at the club is horrid, no grasp of the situation they find themselves in. 

I get that that attitude exists amongst some fans, but there's nothing to suggest that the club have 'no grasp of the situation' - everything we've seen so far suggests that they know exactly where they're at, and what they need to do to get out of it.  It feels to me that there is a very clear plan to rebuild starting with the manager and spreading through the team - the recruitment so far has addressed the very clear lack of leadership, and the rumours of potential targets (a ball playing keeper (Hermansen) and a striker who knows the league and is proven at this level (piroe)) suggests that they are building the right kind of team to make a decent challenge.

 

I think what is a foolish attitude are those people who expect us to have a finished product (squad-wise & performance-wise) by the start of the season.  I'm sure the club would expect to go up first time, but it feels like, given their choice of manager, there is room for a slightly longer stay.

 

 

[Simmo86]

17 minutes ago, Lillehamring said:

This seems to ignore Daka?  Not saying we don't need more creativity in there, but i don't think we should forget how good he can be, given the chance.

Haven’t really got anybody to give him the chances at the minute though. That’s the problem 

[StriderHiryu]

Putting my comments from the match thread here for now. I'll add some pictures / videos, though I suspect some of the Twitter analysts might beat me to it!

 

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Going to talk about structure and team shape stuff.

 

- Playing Pep's 433 / 3421 system with an inverted fullback, which is Riccy P.

- Doyle starts at LB but actually plays as a LCB.

- Riccy starts as RB but actually plays a CDM, sometimes he goes forwards even more to make another 8.

- Passing is all about round the corner and quick vertical transitions, something that we did not do under Puel and Rodgers.

- Basic idea is to lure players in and then exploit the half-spaces they leave in behind them.

- In general, passing is short and crisp, but Coady has the licence to go long. He's the only one (and the keeper) that have that option.

- Attacks start with Coady, who is the director from the back.

- Winks is the "bounce pass" option, used to get out of trouble and play people in when half spaces appear. Try to imagine Ndidi do what Winks did in that first half . That's why we signed him.

- We use the inverted fullback to give us one man advantage in midfield, but also setup passing triangles so players always have two options to pass to at any time.

- We play a lot into midfield to compress the game and draw the opposition out of their shape.

- The game plan is about shifting their defensive block to create opportunities where they are outnumbered, out of position, or both.

- When the time is right we go for the diagonal switch via Coady to find a totally unmarked player.

- The keeper steps up a LOT sometimes in parallel to the back 3 to make an extra option. We use him to generate a one-man advantage and play around the opposition press. That's why we need a keeper who first and foremost can play with his feet.

 

All this stuff is already working. It needs refinement and tweaking, but it's there for all to see.

 

What we are lacking is up front. Pep creates underlaps and overlaps to create a lot of cut-back opportunities. We did see some of this, Wanya also had the option to drive in and shoot on one occasion too. This looks a bit crap right now, but hey when Man City do it they have Riyad Mahrez and co, not a player that hasn't played in the first-team and a converted wing-back. 

 

Wingers are what we need to complete the puzzle. Players who are fast, can beat a man via dribbling, work hard off the ball and can finish.

 

This style of play will dominate this division. It will come down to keeping certain players free from injury and / or squad depth, both of which I believe we will have in abundance.

[wardyfox86]

Casadei, Piroe, Borges could complete this tactic.

[moore_94]

Seems like a few people are going to be annoyed by how Maresca wants us to play with players not being static in their positions and roles

[Phenom]

10 minutes ago, wardyfox86 said:

Casadei, Piroe, Borges could complete this tactic.

We need wingers too.