Sol thewall Bamba Posted 21 July 2023 Posted 21 July 2023 Fair play getting the replacement in before we actually let Barnes go. Hopefully learnt lessons. 1
Finnegan Posted 21 July 2023 Posted 21 July 2023 3 minutes ago, Nolucklcfc said: So after all that, is he any good? For our level? Yes. He'd be a good signing for a newly promoted / lower Premier League club. He's a really good bit of business for us. 4
Popular Post DZ-LCFC Posted 21 July 2023 Popular Post Posted 21 July 2023 🚨🚨🚨🚨 Deal done According to L'equipe.. FEE 6M EUR 5 1
FrankieADZ Posted 21 July 2023 Posted 21 July 2023 fingers crossed this is finished today and we are working on more behind the scenes
Popular Post JimJams Posted 21 July 2023 Popular Post Posted 21 July 2023 I piss 6million Euros. We're laughing! 5
Lesta Legend Posted 21 July 2023 Posted 21 July 2023 Interchangeable across the front mostly left side. Can be an out and out CF too. So bit of versatility.
kingfox Posted 21 July 2023 Posted 21 July 2023 It’s very difficult to judge Mavididi on the basis of last season, because he was used mainly as an impact substitute. From the games I saw last season, he was very hit and miss, some games he made an impact, Monaco away being the prime example, while in other games he didn’t really do much. As a Barnes replacement he ticks the boxes, has pace and directness. At Championship level I can see him being a solid addition. 1
Finnegan Posted 21 July 2023 Posted 21 July 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, lcfcsnow said: But we won't, even when qualifying for Europe we never brought in anyone like that. Anyway, I hope he's good. We just go for slightly older, don't we. We look for early 20s. Given that we've up sold Maguire, Maddison and Fofana combined for frankly silly money it's not exactly doing us badly. Also not focusing on teenagers gives us room to blood our own. Stop and think for a moment how impressive it is we've sold Chilwell and Barnes for a combined 90 million and that's all pure profit. That's all with KDH, Hamza, Thomas and Co getting ample minutes in the first team. How many Premier League clubs gave as many minutes to their own academy players as us? You think that would be happening if we made a habit of bringing in scores of 18/19 year olds from around the world? Edited 21 July 2023 by Finnegan 2
Nolucklcfc Posted 21 July 2023 Posted 21 July 2023 7 minutes ago, Finnegan said: For our level? Yes. He'd be a good signing for a newly promoted / lower Premier League club. He's a really good bit of business for us. Great stuff
orangecity23 Posted 21 July 2023 Posted 21 July 2023 Price is reasonable, and you'd assume he should be able to settle in quite quickly, and there definitely shouldn't be any problems with "homesickness" given he's from Derby (unless he gets fed up of having to drop in seeing his parents all the time now he's back and ends up sick of being home ) 2
honeybradger Posted 21 July 2023 Posted 21 July 2023 Was initially underwhelmed but 6m euros seems like a fair price. If he can get us promotion then we can sign someone with more talent for 15-20m and keep him as a backup.
sacreblueits442 Posted 21 July 2023 Posted 21 July 2023 6 minutes ago, lcfcsnow said: Fair enough, I'm not keep going on about it but I do think we're looking in the wrong place for players. Our best players over the past 10 years were lesser known players brought in from elsewhere or came through the youth team all of whom didn't yet have that experience, but aspired to be someone who reached those height and they improved with us (improving us as a result) ...best place to start would be the Champions 15/16 team!!! Kasper - brought from Leeds £1.68m Simpson - from QPR £2.5m Morgan - from Nottingham Forest £1.13m Huth - Stoke City £4.2m Fuchs - FC Schalke 04 Free transfer Mahrez - Le Havre £500k Drinkwater -Man. United £900k Kante -S Caen £9m Albrighton - A Villa Free Transfer Okazaki - F Mainz £11m Vardy - Fleetwood £1.24m The addition to this would be Maddison £25M, Tielemans - £40M, Iheanacho - £23m , Fofana £35m , Maguire £13.7M, Chilwell and Barnes both came through the academy. I understand the need to source better, we may be doing that right now, and only time will tell if we are getting it right.
KFS Posted 21 July 2023 Posted 21 July 2023 I imagine he goes straight in where Wanya has been playing?
Popular Post Stadt Posted 21 July 2023 Popular Post Posted 21 July 2023 (edited) I think he's about as good a signing as we can make without rolling a six basically. Near enough 1 in 3 goalscoring winger at a higher level than he'll be playing at - for what will be a dominant side too. £5m ish is cheap enough we could recoup most of the fee as well. I'd give it an 8.5/10. Edited 21 July 2023 by Stadt 5
lgfualol Posted 21 July 2023 Posted 21 July 2023 6m is a decent price, the word flop comes to mind but it's just because I've been hurt before 💔 2 or 3 more attackers needed.
Dahnsouff Posted 21 July 2023 Posted 21 July 2023 Good stuff - definitely seems to be quite a controlled out-in process at the minute
frany104 Posted 21 July 2023 Posted 21 July 2023 Happy with this signing. Looks a good player who's very direct and a decent goal scoring record in a better league than the championship. Looks to have some physicality too. For £5 million-ish, its a good signing.
Finnegan Posted 21 July 2023 Posted 21 July 2023 7 minutes ago, sacreblueits442 said: Kasper - brought from Leeds £1.68m Simpson - from QPR £2.5m Morgan - from Nottingham Forest £1.13m Huth - Stoke City £4.2m Fuchs - FC Schalke 04 Free transfer Mahrez - Le Havre £500k Drinkwater -Man. United £900k Kante -S Caen £9m Albrighton - A Villa Free Transfer Okazaki - F Mainz £11m Vardy - Fleetwood £1.24m This team is a really good example of squad building though. Everyone focuses on the fact we found Riyad, Vardy, Kante and maybe Drinkwater from different levels of relative obscurity. But look at the rest of the team. Known quantities, free signings, 30 year olds all over the place, mid table journeyman as square pegs for square holes. It's not like the whole thing was made up of ultra rare wonderkid talent we plucked from nowhere with our genius. Even the supporting cast that helped get us to that point, Ulloa, Nugent, Esteban, Knocky, etc. It's only really the last of those we went dipping for round foreign lower leagues to uncover. 2
Lesta Legend Posted 21 July 2023 Posted 21 July 2023 3 minutes ago, sacreblueits442 said: ...best place to start would be the Champions 15/16 team!!! Kasper - brought from Leeds £1.68m Simpson - from QPR £2.5m Morgan - from Nottingham Forest £1.13m Huth - Stoke City £4.2m Fuchs - FC Schalke 04 Free transfer Mahrez - Le Havre £500k Drinkwater -Man. United £900k Kante -S Caen £9m Albrighton - A Villa Free Transfer Okazaki - F Mainz £11m Vardy - Fleetwood £1.24m The addition to this would be Maddison £25M, Tielemans - £40M, Iheanacho - £23m , Fofana £35m , Maguire £13.7M, Chilwell and Barnes both came through the academy. I understand the need to source better, we may be doing that right now, and only time will tell if we are getting it right. Exactly, our approach previously was a recruitment team stats based approach money ball esque. It worked better than any football club could ever achieve with successive titles and the premier league. We then allowed successive managers change the approach and system. Dam right it hasn't been right lately and the club have admitted this. The whole thing may need time to see better results as that'll take time. So we shouldn't expect to unearth superstars 2 months after the diabolical year we've had those changes take time and knowing our board they now only making changes. As far as focusing on youngsters, you focus on the best possible players for the system and position your recruiting in, it doesn't matter how old a player is. Of course the club will aim to buy younger players that they believe will achieve expected performance levels and have huge re-sale value. But they'll be casting their net far and wide and aiming for the best possible player within their BUDGET. Aim should be getting out of this league and getting the best possible players available now to do that. Like Wes Fofana, he went for him heavy because they believed he was that sort of talent. He turned out to live up to that and we made a lot of money from him but right at this moment getting the next Wes will be harder as we're not in the market to spunk £30m on potential. 2
Popular Post Finnegan Posted 21 July 2023 Popular Post Posted 21 July 2023 (edited) Also worth noting is that Mavididi scores above the 70th percentile for tackles, blocks (88th), clearances and aerial duels vs other wingers. Harvey Barnes is terrible at these. His tackles, blocks and clearances in particular are woeful. Mavididi does a significant amount more defensive work than Barnes. Edited 21 July 2023 by Finnegan 18 3
The Doctor Posted 21 July 2023 Posted 21 July 2023 1 hour ago, lcfcsnow said: Apart from Hermansen they are all safe transfers. But these are mostly players that have reached their limit, then we come along and offer them a lucrative deal which has them set until they are 30. We need younger, positive players on the up, players that have yet to reach a ceiling. Proper replacements for Maddison, Barnes, Tielemans and preferably Vardy. So Kristiansen, Souttar, Daka, Soumare, Thomas, even Faes and Dewsbury-Hall to an extent? We've got a lot of young (sub 25) players who've got real potential under the right coach (specifically one who hasn't mentally checked out and waiting for his payoff), supplementing that with a bit of experience and know how in Coady and Winks is sensible business
Dahnsouff Posted 21 July 2023 Posted 21 July 2023 Think I may need time away, finding myself agreeing with @Finnegan far too frequently #cult 3
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