st albans fox Posted 24 March 2024 Posted 24 March 2024 On 22/03/2024 at 12:28, Ric Flair said: There must have been some serious concessions from Inter to agree to a loan deal with an option, given his contract was up. Essentially relying on us to achieve promotion and sign him permanently in June or something weird. No wonder it was a farce. Their alternative was likely him sitting around for the remainder of the season ? I reckon we were caught between wanting to get enzo the player and not wanting to spend a penny (for various reasons) when inter tried to change things late on that likely flipped the decision from the club’s angle. We don’t know the discussions ongoing with the efl either. There was a non disclosure agreement ref the results of the hearing we had won with them until after the window was closed. Perhaps we had agreed that any deals we made in jan would be fully advised to them (out of courtesy) and the late changes inter made to the deal meant we felt compelled to pull the plug. that does sound unlikely given what’s now going on but if I were in charge I wouldn’t be looking for enemies in high places, especially if I’d already won round one. taking the moral high ground usually plays out well when looking for mitigating circumstances in hearings. 1
MPH Posted 24 March 2024 Posted 24 March 2024 5 hours ago, Dan LCFC said: What about everything else? If it was going to be tricky then why not have an alternative lined up? there probably weren’t any other deals we could afford it was a fairly unique situation, recovering from surgery, out of contract. Not wanted by parent club all making it a dirt cheap deal ( or so we thought) AND of sufficient quality wanted by the manager.
Lambert09 Posted 24 March 2024 Posted 24 March 2024 this deal becomes more fascinating now, surely if this deal was so close to the ffp edge the club are sure we will pass this year (prem or efl i’m not sure) but if not, surely we’d just do the deal as a little more for sensei wouldn’t make the punishment any worse 🤔
Clever Fox Posted 27 March 2024 Posted 27 March 2024 On 23/03/2024 at 10:57, MPH said: leave it late? we had been trying to get it done for weeks. Haven't we learnt anything from the 14 Sec Fiasco. It's not like we had a few deals in the pipeline. One deal that's Rudkin had to do. It seems it was agreed verbaly, Which is why he was allowed travel for the medical. Maybe we tried to change the terms of the Contract which caused Inter to back out.
Claudio Fannieri Posted 27 March 2024 Posted 27 March 2024 I actually think the only way we were going to do a deal for Sensi was as a replacement for KDH in the event someone made a late move for him that was acceptable to the club.
MPH Posted 27 March 2024 Posted 27 March 2024 3 hours ago, Clever Fox said: Haven't we learnt anything from the 14 Sec Fiasco. It's not like we had a few deals in the pipeline. One deal that's Rudkin had to do. It seems it was agreed verbaly, Which is why he was allowed travel for the medical. Maybe we tried to change the terms of the Contract which caused Inter to back out. it was the other way round… with 1hr to go, inter returned the documents with changed terms and we couldn’t afford to do the deal.. 1
Clever Fox Posted 27 March 2024 Posted 27 March 2024 1 hour ago, MPH said: it was the other way round… with 1hr to go, inter returned the documents with changed terms and we couldn’t afford to do the deal.. So after agreeing terms verbaly, Inter changed the terms when it came to signing the Contract. I'd find that a little strange given that they needed him gone before his Contract ran out and he left for nothing. Someone is surely telling Lies here. We're not hearing the full story. 1
MPH Posted 28 March 2024 Posted 28 March 2024 38 minutes ago, Clever Fox said: So after agreeing terms verbaly, Inter changed the terms when it came to signing the Contract. I'd find that a little strange given that they needed him gone before his Contract ran out and he left for nothing. Someone is surely telling Lies here. We're not hearing the full story. at the last minute they decided they wanted a fee for the loan and a further fee should we go up and he sign permanently . We were not able to pay the fee to make it permanent due to the creek we are in whilst being unable to find a paddle.. it makes no sense to pay a fee for someone who would have been out of contract by then anyway.. 1
JimJams Posted 29 March 2024 Posted 29 March 2024 (edited) On 27/03/2024 at 23:43, Clever Fox said: So after agreeing terms verbaly, Inter changed the terms when it came to signing the Contract. I'd find that a little strange given that they needed him gone before his Contract ran out and he left for nothing. Someone is surely telling Lies here. We're not hearing the full story. If the stories indicated what you suggested (that it was Rudkins fault/we changed the terms) would you suspect lies? Edited 29 March 2024 by JimJams 1
Bob Hazels shorts Posted 29 March 2024 Posted 29 March 2024 Absolutely no loss looking at the games he played previously and (not) since + the length of his current contract. Hardly going to set the world alight Bizarre target
frany104 Posted 29 March 2024 Posted 29 March 2024 Surely he is being lined up as the first signing of the summer? 1
Clever Fox Posted 29 March 2024 Posted 29 March 2024 3 hours ago, JimJams said: If the stories indicated what you suggested (that it was Rudkins fault/we changed the terms) would you suspect lies? It seems that Inter after presenting their terms they wanted to change them at the last minute, looking for a Fee upfront. Which seems crazy if he can walk for nothing in June.
JimJams Posted 29 March 2024 Posted 29 March 2024 1 hour ago, frany104 said: Surely he is being lined up as the first signing of the summer?
MPH Posted 29 March 2024 Posted 29 March 2024 5 hours ago, Bob Hazels shorts said: Absolutely no loss looking at the games he played previously and (not) since + the length of his current contract. Hardly going to set the world alight Bizarre target He played well last season at Monza.
Tuna Posted 29 March 2024 Posted 29 March 2024 4 hours ago, frany104 said: Surely he is being lined up as the first signing of the summer? Not now!
James_lcfc Posted 29 March 2024 Posted 29 March 2024 I wonder how influential a fresh face could have been… We do seem a bit stale and lacking inspiration at the moment. You can see why the club decided to try and push it through despite the PSR stuff in the background.
FOXSE Posted 30 March 2024 Posted 30 March 2024 13 hours ago, James_lcfc said: I wonder how influential a fresh face could have been… We do seem a bit stale and lacking inspiration at the moment. You can see why the club decided to try and push it through despite the PSR stuff in the background. If we had signed Sensi, but things had gone like they had gone since Christmas. Do you think a lot of fans would have pinned the blame on him?? *F off Enzo and take your F'ing sicknote Sensi with you' 😄 🤣 😂
volpeazzurro Posted 31 March 2024 Posted 31 March 2024 On 27/03/2024 at 23:43, Clever Fox said: So after agreeing terms verbaly, Inter changed the terms when it came to signing the Contract. I'd find that a little strange given that they needed him gone before his Contract ran out and he left for nothing. Someone is surely telling Lies here. We're not hearing the full story. The clubs have been fairly circumspect about it all but the players wife intimated that they were looking forward to coming and that it was Milan who changed the goalposts. 1
Sly Posted 4 April 2024 Posted 4 April 2024 For all we know, it could have been a free transfer with them covering wages just for them to get rid of him. It’s basically what we did with Perez last season isn’t it?
volpeazzurro Posted 14 April 2024 Posted 14 April 2024 On 27/03/2024 at 23:43, Clever Fox said: So after agreeing terms verbaly, Inter changed the terms when it came to signing the Contract. I'd find that a little strange given that they needed him gone before his Contract ran out and he left for nothing. Someone is surely telling Lies here. We're not hearing the full story. Sensi's wife on social media confirmed that they were looking forward to moving here and that it was Milan that changed the plans at the last minute. Think that's the nearest you'll get to any truth. 1
Clever Fox Posted 14 April 2024 Posted 14 April 2024 14 hours ago, volpeazzurro said: Sensi's wife on social media confirmed that they were looking forward to moving here and that it was Milan that changed the plans at the last minute. Think that's the nearest you'll get to any truth. Do you think he will come here in the Summer. 1
ClaphamFox Posted 17 April 2024 Posted 17 April 2024 On 14/04/2024 at 18:32, Clever Fox said: Do you think he will come here in the Summer. If we get promoted and Maresca stays, Sensi will join us in the summer. 1
Mike Oxlong Posted 17 April 2024 Posted 17 April 2024 15 hours ago, ClaphamFox said: If we get promoted and Maresca stays, Sensi will join us in the summer. Really ? He might at be thinking he dodged a bullet with the mess we are in 1
ClaphamFox Posted 18 April 2024 Posted 18 April 2024 6 hours ago, Mike Oxlong said: Really ? He might at be thinking he dodged a bullet with the mess we are in I suspect the perception that we are in a ‘mess’ is far higher among our own fans than it is to outsiders. If we get promoted we’ll be an attractive proposition, with or without a looming points deduction.
Mike Oxlong Posted 18 April 2024 Posted 18 April 2024 33 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said: I suspect the perception that we are in a ‘mess’ is far higher among our own fans than it is to outsiders. If we get promoted we’ll be an attractive proposition, with or without a looming points deduction. It was as much a possible transfer ban on incomings and losing better players to balance the books together with a possible points deduction that I was concerned about Either way a one year stay in the PL if we get promoted looks more likely than not atm
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