Benji Posted 2 April 2024 Posted 2 April 2024 (edited) Companies House is still years behind the real world - if your filing isn't share capital related (which you can update online), they do still scan and upload which takes time and as has been pointed out does not happen over bank holidays. I suspect Leeds have intentionally been very quiet on the whole FFP chat. I can see them being in our position. Edited 2 April 2024 by Benji 1
ClaphamFox Posted 2 April 2024 Author Posted 2 April 2024 5 minutes ago, Benji said: Companies House is still years behind the real world - if your filing isn't share capital related (which you can update online), they do still scan and upload which takes time and as has been pointed out does not happen over bank holidays. I suspect Leeds have intentionally been very quiet on the whole FFP chat. I can see them being in our position. Given how much sanctimonious moralising Leeds fans have been spouting about our issues with the PL and FPL, I might permit myself a wry smile if this is the case.
coolhandfox Posted 2 April 2024 Posted 2 April 2024 59 minutes ago, Les-TA-Jon said: But that’s £94m total losses, right? so it’ll be less once you add in all the PSR ‘add backs’? Yes, you can roughly knock off around 15m-20m with add backs
Muzzy_no7 Posted 2 April 2024 Posted 2 April 2024 Leeds in the transfer market alone are on -£196,000,000 for the last 4 seasons including this one. Us, by comparison in the same period are on +£21,000,000. Leeds will be punished imminently.
Ric Flair Posted 2 April 2024 Posted 2 April 2024 16 minutes ago, Muzzy_no7 said: Leeds in the transfer market alone are on -£196,000,000 for the last 4 seasons including this one. Us, by comparison in the same period are on +£21,000,000. Leeds will be punished imminently. £40m per season amortisation, so not necessarily. All depends what their wage bill is like when they go back up. They have a lot of loaned out players that they will need to do something with. We'd struggle to sell such players but they probably didn't pay them what we pay ours. 1
Number 6 Posted 2 April 2024 Posted 2 April 2024 I know it would hamper spending ability in the short term but shouldn't we be amortising transfer fees over a couple of years fewer than contract length for signings? Means when it gets to the point you need to start shifting players before they leave on a free that you can sell and positively impact psr calcs?
Chelmofox Posted 2 April 2024 Posted 2 April 2024 Just now, Number 6 said: I know it would hamper spending ability in the short term but shouldn't we be amortising transfer fees over a couple of years fewer than contract length for signings? Means when it gets to the point you need to start shifting players before they leave on a free that you can sell and positively impact psr calcs? Wonder if that conversation has cropped up in the Chelsea boardroom ……
MPH Posted 2 April 2024 Posted 2 April 2024 24 minutes ago, Muzzy_no7 said: Leeds in the transfer market alone are on -£196,000,000 for the last 4 seasons including this one. Us, by comparison in the same period are on +£21,000,000. Leeds will be punished imminently. when did they sell Philips?
Number 6 Posted 2 April 2024 Posted 2 April 2024 6 minutes ago, Chelmofox said: Wonder if that conversation has cropped up in the Chelsea boardroom …… Unfortunately suspect they've got protection via shifting on academy products and can probably absorb a bad signing more easily than we can. Though I live in hope that they have lined themselves up for a complete mess. 1
Muzzy_no7 Posted 2 April 2024 Posted 2 April 2024 1 hour ago, MPH said: when did they sell Philips? This is including both the Phillips and Raphinha sales.
st albans fox Posted 2 April 2024 Posted 2 April 2024 3 hours ago, ClaphamFox said: Companies House is showing their accounts as overdue, too. It's probably safe to assume that clubs that have delayed submitting their accounts until the very last minute aren't going to be posting healthy numbers. If Leeds had failed psr to end June 2023 then they would have been charged already there were no leaks that they didn’t supply their management accounts to the EFL last autumn (like us). Their case would have been ahead of ours. 2
GingerrrFox Posted 2 April 2024 Posted 2 April 2024 (edited) I do wonder whether the club will make an announcement or if they will file the accounts with no public acknowledgement. When was the timing of last year’s announcement anyone remember? Edit: just checked it was 07/03/23 when we announced the last financial statement Edited 2 April 2024 by GingerrrFox
Pub breath Posted 2 April 2024 Posted 2 April 2024 (edited) 6 hours ago, Muzzy_no7 said: Leeds in the transfer market alone are on -£196,000,000 for the last 4 seasons including this one. Us, by comparison in the same period are on +£21,000,000. Leeds will be punished imminently. There was a comment made to the Leeds journo at the Athletic, that we're fine. We would have been close to failing were it not for the sale of Luis Sinisterra but with that sale, we're fine. Guess we'll know more in the coming days but nobody around the club seems at all concerned about it. Edited 2 April 2024 by Pub breath
LVFox Posted 2 April 2024 Posted 2 April 2024 2 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: 👀 Imminent news or beans and little sausage for tea? 1 2
Suzie the Fox Posted 2 April 2024 Posted 2 April 2024 3 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: 👀 I had a friend who this reminds me of, she used to say... 'OMG i have got something to tell you' and then follow it with 'actually i'm not allowed to say so you will have to wait and see' Grrrrr.. 1
CosbehFox Posted 2 April 2024 Posted 2 April 2024 2 minutes ago, LVFox said: Imminent news or beans and little sausage for tea? It’s made him fart all day if that’s any comfort 1
KFS Posted 2 April 2024 Posted 2 April 2024 1 minute ago, Suzie the Fox said: I had a friend who this reminds me of, she used to say... 'OMG i have got something to tell you' and then follow it with 'actually i'm not allowed to say so you will have to wait and see' Grrrrr.. Every time on OG Facebook 1
Dahnsouff Posted 2 April 2024 Posted 2 April 2024 1 minute ago, Matt said: 6pm? New singing Yuri Trubble? 1
Cadno'r Cymoedd Posted 2 April 2024 Posted 2 April 2024 (edited) https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68691248 Not us but a bit of a reminder what good housekeeping can do. Edited 2 April 2024 by Cadno'r Cymoedd
FoxinNotts Posted 2 April 2024 Posted 2 April 2024 Well, it’s highly unlikely to be positive news, is it! Strap yourselves in.
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