Was it even a Foul?

[Elsie Efsie]

Seems that VAR just looked at whether the alledged foul was in or out of the box. Correct decision whatever the contact was it was outside the box, however, from the limited veiws they gave all I saw was the Chelsea player clip his own legs?

[Nod.E]

It was a foul

[HybridFox]

If the ref hadn't given a foul there's no way they'd have overturned it. Think people are making excuses for any sort of contact tbh. Tripped himself up looking for it

[Vacamion]

 

Attacker's leg was touched by Doyle lightly before he kicked his own leg.

 

It's a pen. Definitely.

 

Edit- just re-read this.  I meant it's a FOUL, definitely.

Edited 17 March by Vacamion

[Number 6]

Definitely a foul. Definitely a red.

[Guest]

Even accounting for blue-tinted glasses I am sort of amazed anyone could think it's anything other than a foul and a red card

[Voll Blau]

Foul and a red. Erland Johnsen, it wasn't.

[StanSP]

Yes. End thread. 

And it was a red card. 

[RowlattsFox]

Ita definitely a foul. Might not be intentional but there's definitely contact. 

[dylanlegend]

What are defenders meant to do in that position? It was the slightest of touches and cos Vesty got skinned. Don’t blame Doyle at all for that one 

[Number 6]

Although I spent a good 30 seconds shouting at the TV that it wasn't a pen before realising that that meant it would be a red. 

[Chelmofox]

Ragrdless - Sterlings free kick was a moment of beauty. 

[foxfanazer]

Definite foul and red card

[ceebeefox]

Anybody got any idea why the ref gave penalty yellow, but then when it’s outside the box it became red? A foul on someone clean through is a red, end of surely? Or did VAR correct the very poor Madley on both counts?

[KFS]

4 minutes ago, ceebeefox said:

Anybody got any idea why the ref gave penalty yellow, but then when it’s outside the box it became red? A foul on someone clean through is a red, end of surely? Or did VAR correct the very poor Madley on both counts?

It’s the double jeopardy rule. You can’t lose a man to a pen 

[whoareyaaa]

1 minute ago, KFS said:

It’s the double jeopardy rule. You can’t lose a man to a pen 

unless its a second yellow like Brentford yesterday

[Tielemans63]

I think I'm going to have to concede here, but I genuinely thought Jackson clipped his own heel anticipating a challenge. Doyle barely touched him, if at all.

[Torten]

Ref wasn’t good but this was 100% a foul

[Cadno'r Cymoedd]

100% foul. 

[Thefox81]

Correct decision. VAR actually working correctly for a change

[st albans fox]

47 minutes ago, KFS said:

It’s the double jeopardy rule. You can’t lose a man to a pen 

You can if no attempt to play the ball 

Edited 17 March by st albans fox

[st albans fox]

45 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said:

unless its a second yellow like Brentford yesterday

That was a straight red 

[whoareyaaa]

1 minute ago, st albans fox said:

That was a straight red 

and a peno ? 

[st albans fox]

1 minute ago, whoareyaaa said:

and a peno ? 

Yes 

No attempt to play the ball and denied a goal scoring opportunity 

the ref gave the red after he was called by the var to review that he hadn’t given the pen. 

Edited 17 March by st albans fox

[Lillehamring]

problem i have is that the contact was fractional and didn't seem enough to bring a player down - which, i admit, doesn't make any difference these days: any contact seems to equate to a foul - but my problem is that chelsea must have made a dozen or more challenges that were worse than the red card where the ref didn't even give us a free kick, including several when we had just won possession and were countering.

 

So, by the ref's own general standard of 'what is a foul?', the red card should not have been given as a foul.