winteriscoming Posted 11 November 2024 Posted 11 November 2024 49 minutes ago, Muzzy_no7 said: Looks like the club is choosing and accepting a bottom 4 finish with 28-35pts as opposed to making the crucial change now and getting this club back on track. I don’t see us getting anywhere near that number of points with Cooper in charge. 1
TheGoldenGod Posted 11 November 2024 Posted 11 November 2024 My concern with Moyes is that the players have made it abundantly clear that they want to play an enzo style (for right or wrong) and due to that style requiring an insane amount of drilling and focus, the club made a mistake to divert drastically from that in their next appointment. Not saying players can't change and adapt but these lot do have a capacity to almost down tools if they aren't getting behind a managers ideas....not sure what changes under Moyes really.
Happy Fox Posted 11 November 2024 Posted 11 November 2024 Our upcoming fixtures if Cooper is in charge. Chelsea (h) - loss Brentford (a) - loss West Ham (h) - draw at best Brighton (h) - loss Newcastle (a) - loss So 1 point from 15 available is my prediction if Cooper is still in charge if we appoint the likes of Potter/Moyes can see us getting at least 6 more points so 7 from 15 which wouldn't be too bad. Chelsea (h) - draw Brentford (a) - win West Ham (h) - win Brighton (h) - loss Newcastle (a) - loss 2 1
Fox92 Posted 11 November 2024 Posted 11 November 2024 2 minutes ago, Happy Fox said: Our upcoming fixtures if Cooper is in charge. Chelsea (h) - loss Brentford (a) - loss West Ham (h) - draw at best Brighton (h) - loss Newcastle (a) - loss So 1 point from 15 available is my prediction if Cooper is still in charge if we appoint the likes of Potter/Moyes can see us getting at least 6 more points so 7 from 15 which wouldn't be too bad. Chelsea (h) - draw Brentford (a) - win West Ham (h) - win Brighton (h) - loss Newcastle (a) - loss West Ham are as bad as us. That's the key game for us. A new manager wouldn't lead us to victory at Brentford either, they are strong at home. 2
Koke Posted 11 November 2024 Posted 11 November 2024 Villa made a crucial change when they were crap like us and got Emery. But we'll just sleepwalk into nothingness. 4
Trav Le Bleu Posted 11 November 2024 Posted 11 November 2024 Our next ten fixtures if Cooper is in charge... Lose Lose Lose Lose Lose Lose Lose Lose Lose Lose If we replace Cooper... Win Win Win Win Win Win Win Win Win Win FACT! There's no point saying which teams we'll be against, it won't make any difference. Get it done!
Dahnsouff Posted 11 November 2024 Posted 11 November 2024 1 minute ago, UniFox21 said: Can we afford to sack him? People will argue we cannot not to, but this decision could well be more about what our plans were for this season - did we expect to go down? Is an in season cost in sacking Cooper an unplanned cost which will subsequently impact future plans? Alternatively, as seems inevitable, we have no plans, nor schemes (or hopes and dreams) 1
FoxinNotts Posted 11 November 2024 Posted 11 November 2024 5 minutes ago, UniFox21 said: Can we afford to sack him? Course we can! We’ve now got a PSR clean slate 👀 1
ealingfox Posted 11 November 2024 Posted 11 November 2024 10 minutes ago, Trav Le Bleu said: Our next ten fixtures if Cooper is in charge... Lose Lose Lose Lose Lose Lose Lose Lose Lose Lose If we replace Cooper... Win Win Win Win Win Win Win Win Win Win FACT! There's no point saying which teams we'll be against, it won't make any difference. Get it done! Hadn't realised this, would be stupid not to sack him in that case.
HankMarvin Posted 11 November 2024 Posted 11 November 2024 35 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said: Those odds reflect the fact that to most punters who aren't Leicester fans, Cooper appears safe because we're 15th in the table. Losing away at Man Utd was never going to make the average better conclude that Cooper is in serious trouble. Leicester fans who watched the game might see things differently, but clearly not enough of us are betting on Cooper to be sacked to shift the odds much. Yeah nothing to do with the fact that he won 2 games back to back just last month and no recent articles on rumours of discontent inside the camp. Do you think he is under more pressure than O’Neil with 1 win in 20, or the West Ham boss having spent £144m? 1
fox_up_north Posted 11 November 2024 Posted 11 November 2024 He won't go. I daresay the club may even see him as a Dyche figure, where he goes down with us and they think he can rebuild.
wardyfox86 Posted 11 November 2024 Posted 11 November 2024 26 minutes ago, Happy Fox said: Our upcoming fixtures if Cooper is in charge. Chelsea (h) - loss Brentford (a) - loss West Ham (h) - draw at best Brighton (h) - loss Newcastle (a) - loss So 1 point from 15 available is my prediction if Cooper is still in charge if we appoint the likes of Potter/Moyes can see us getting at least 6 more points so 7 from 15 which wouldn't be too bad. Chelsea (h) - draw Brentford (a) - win West Ham (h) - win Brighton (h) - loss Newcastle (a) - loss As bad as Cooper is, there isn't a chance anybody comes in and gets us any more than 4 points from that run.. We don't have a very good squad. A leaky defence and an attack that solely relies on a near 38-year-old Vardy. Aside from him and (prime) Ndidi, we have nobody in this squad that have proven they are anything better than bottom 3 standard players. Maybe Winks at a push, who got relegated from Serie A before coming to us. Hermansen is quality but isn't going to win us games without a defence. We would need far, far better than Moyes or Potter to steer the ship. It requires thinking outside of the box, but our board don't hire managers from abroad so it won't happen.
Matt Posted 11 November 2024 Posted 11 November 2024 (edited) 44 minutes ago, TheGoldenGod said: My concern with Moyes is that the players have made it abundantly clear that they want to play an enzo style (for right or wrong) and due to that style requiring an insane amount of drilling and focus, the club made a mistake to divert drastically from that in their next appointment. Not saying players can't change and adapt but these lot do have a capacity to almost down tools if they aren't getting behind a managers ideas....not sure what changes under Moyes really. They might want to, but, they also need to realise and accept they’re not good enough to play that way, against opposition in this league. Also what makes me laugh is fair enough I get they need guidance, an idea, a plan, but it’s like they want or need to be spoon fed basics. Edited 11 November 2024 by Matt 2
ClaphamFox Posted 11 November 2024 Posted 11 November 2024 2 minutes ago, fox_up_north said: He won't go. I daresay the club may even see him as a Dyche figure, where he goes down with us and they think he can rebuild. They absolutely will not see him like that. The EFL is already sharpening the knives in anticipation of our return there. They will be seeking a points deduction for the 2020-23 period since we escaped one from the PL because we successfully argued we were a Championship club. Relegation could be a disaster for us and I guarantee you nobody at the club wants to risk that happening. 2
John rayner Posted 11 November 2024 Posted 11 November 2024 3 minutes ago, Matt said: They might want to but they also need to realise they’re not good enough to play that way, against opposition in this league. Also what makes me laugh is fair enough I get they need guidance, an idea, a plan, but it’s like they want or need to be spoon fed basics. I do believe it's time for a change Cooper has to go sooner rather than later .
Pliskin Posted 11 November 2024 Posted 11 November 2024 27 minutes ago, UniFox21 said: Can we afford to sack him? Yes.
ClaphamFox Posted 11 November 2024 Posted 11 November 2024 14 minutes ago, HankMarvin said: Yeah nothing to do with the fact that he won 2 games back to back just last month and no recent articles on rumours of discontent inside the camp. Do you think he is under more pressure than O’Neil with 1 win in 20, or the West Ham boss having spent £144m? You've just repeated what I said. The odds reflect betting patterns, and as far as the betting public is concerned there are other managers at much more risk than Cooper. My point was that Leicester fans may see it differently considering how abject we were yesterday, but most punters wouldn't pay any attention to that given we were expected to lose anyway.
fox_up_north Posted 11 November 2024 Posted 11 November 2024 12 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said: They absolutely will not see him like that. The EFL is already sharpening the knives in anticipation of our return there. They will be seeking a points deduction for the 2020-23 period since we escaped one from the PL because we successfully argued we were a Championship club. Relegation could be a disaster for us and I guarantee you nobody at the club wants to risk that happening. I hope you're right but I have little faith in the club
AKCJ Posted 11 November 2024 Posted 11 November 2024 3 hours ago, SemperEadem said: Not really much of an obvious anti feeling voiced yesterday. thought I heard "Cooper - sort it out" being chanted on my stream. Was this not the case?
Claudio Fannieri Posted 11 November 2024 Posted 11 November 2024 Just now, Pliskin said: Has he gone yet? Afraid not and the clubs social media team has just posted his post match interview from yesterday on the clubs X account, not sure today will be the day we were all hoping for
Wink84 Posted 11 November 2024 Posted 11 November 2024 The most worrying thing for me is there's no hint of any serious news that he's even under pressure to keep his job, never mind actually being sacked.
foxfanazer Posted 11 November 2024 Posted 11 November 2024 I'm resigned to us going down. We've seen this script before except this time it will be a whole lot harder to come straight back up. Top and his cronies have no ambition for the club and we're powerless as fans It's gonna be a slow death
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