King Power Out

[Ian Nacho]

Regardless of getting away with PSR we still should be pushing this agenda.

[LCFCJohn]

49 minutes ago, Globalfox said:

All clubs that have won nothing in the last 20 years at least we tried, succeeded and then failed under this leadership. Despite losses Top has always made clear he underwrites our debts and we are a solvent going concern. Has overreaching hurt us yes but it was a glorious time which I would not swap for the comfort zone of all the clubs you mention. FFP, PSR are all designed to restrict ambition and that’s what has happened. The leaders of the EPL and EFL are self centered evil who need to be removed from the sport. Anyone who thinks anything else is Nieve and Deluded. Is Top perfect no but if The ever changing quicksand of FFP and PSR did not exist I believe he would have invested and we might be in a better place. If you think some perfect white knight is going to ride in and replace KP think again. Football takes deep pockets of losses name me one who wants to step up.

I don’t think the question was one that involved living in the past, it was about now and which other owners in this league would we take, whilst our current owner is taking the club down the drain I will add.

 

Brentford and Brighton work heavily upon data analysis.

 

Villa changed their back room staff and brought the right people to world alongside Emery.

 

Bournemouth actually use their multi-club model well.

 

Fulham seem to recruit well also.

 

Our owner does none of the above. Those clubs are smartly run. We are not. 
 

As @Leicester_Loyal says, you have to separate Vichai from Top..

[Sly]

43 minutes ago, LCFCJohn said:

I don’t think the question was one that involved living in the past, it was about now and which other owners in this league would we take, whilst our current owner is taking the club down the drain I will add.

 

Brentford and Brighton work heavily upon data analysis.

 

Villa changed their back room staff and brought the right people to world alongside Emery.

 

Bournemouth actually use their multi-club model well.

 

Fulham seem to recruit well also.

 

Our owner does none of the above. Those clubs are smartly run. We are not. 
 

As @Leicester_Loyal says, you have to separate Vichai from Top..

When you read the helicopter inquest interviews today and how John Ledwidge describes the club, we’ve clearly had a culture change.  

[sylofox]

2 hours ago, Sly said:

When you read the helicopter inquest interviews today and how John Ledwidge describes the club, we’ve clearly had a culture change.  

Not sure we have. But Top needs to stop his grieving and get on with life. Sadly Vichai has gone but the world needs to move on.

 

Man up Top and prove yourself. That's the only way things will improve and change.

 

I'm sure Vichai would not want to see us in this situation when it could be different.

[stevebfox]

4 hours ago, Ian Nacho said:

Regardless of getting away with PSR we still should be pushing this agenda.

It wasn't long ago our owners were the envy of everyone outside the 'big clubs'. OK, the wheels have come off a bit since the Chairman passed away, but wow, we are still so fortunate to have King Power. Who do you think are going to ride in and improve us? We have had some seriously bad owners with no finance to back us in the last 40 years. If you want them gone fair enough, personally I don't see anybody else taking us on that would be an improvement - have you got Elon's email, maybe he would take us over Liverpool if he knew we were available!?

[Freeman's Wharfer]

It’s genuinely a bewildering argument with multiple billionaires out in the world to say “I don’t think there’s anyone else better out there than King Power”.

 

You’d never heard of King Power before they bought Leicester. You probably hadn’t heard of half of the owners of current Premier League clubs before they got involved.

 

Your lack of knowledge of options is no reason to accept the current shambles in the belief we cannot do better and there are no more viable options out there.

[TeamRocket]

Nothing wrong with king power personally I think we just need better people to help Top with running the club and guiding the club. Honestly hope as he gets older he gets wiser and realises that certain people around him are taking advantage of his kindness and lack of understanding for the club

[Gamble92]

4 hours ago, Ian Nacho said:

Regardless of getting away with PSR we still should be pushing this agenda.

Exactly this. I thought the one and only positive of relegation would have been some genuine accountability and what did we get? Rudkin grinning near the clock tower with the second tier trophy like it was his incredible achievement. 

 

 

[stevebfox]

1 hour ago, Freeman's Wharfer said:

It’s genuinely a bewildering argument with multiple billionaires out in the world to say “I don’t think there’s anyone else better out there than King Power”.

 

You’d never heard of King Power before they bought Leicester. You probably hadn’t heard of half of the owners of current Premier League clubs before they got involved.

 

Your lack of knowledge of options is no reason to accept the current shambles in the belief we cannot do better and there are no more viable options out there.

'Lack of knowledge'... I'm laughing to myself as I remember some of our really bad owners.

Edited 15 January by stevebfox

[Dan]

35 minutes ago, stevebfox said:

Yes, as billionaires will look at Leicester and the sky high profile we have and say I want some of that. How many bad owners have their been at football clubs??? "Your lack of knowledge... I remember the days with reallly, really, REALLY bad owners - bring it on, you know better. I bow to your superior wisdom. Just be careful what you wish for.

If somebody totally unrelated to Vichai had come in in 2018 and performed how Aiyawatt has done the majority of the fanbase would want them out. It's pure association that alleviates him of this criticism.

[stevebfox]

37 minutes ago, Dan LCFC said:

If somebody totally unrelated to Vichai had come in in 2018 and performed how Aiyawatt has done the majority of the fanbase would want them out. It's pure association that alleviates him of this criticism.

Your right, because they don't remember the rubbish owners that came before them.

[Mickyblueeyes]

4 hours ago, stevebfox said:

Your right, because they don't remember the rubbish owners that came before them.

I don’t understand this. We had some shit in the past therefore we must accept shit going forward. Why would anyone live like that. 

[Dames]

23 minutes ago, Mickyblueeyes said:

I don’t understand this. We had some shit in the past therefore we must accept shit going forward. Why would anyone live like that. 

This has always been the mentality of the majority of Leicester fans. 

[MattFox]

7 hours ago, TeamRocket said:

Nothing wrong with king power personally I think we just need better people to help Top with running the club and guiding the club. Honestly hope as he gets older he gets wiser and realises that certain people around him are taking advantage of his kindness and lack of understanding for the club

He’s been involved in the club for 15 years if he has a lack of understanding he shouldn’t be here at this point

[MattFox]

Where’s all the additional revenue that we were going to tap into from having half of Thailand on the pitch last season?

[ealingfox]

37 minutes ago, Mickyblueeyes said:

I don’t understand this. We had some shit in the past therefore we must accept shit going forward. Why would anyone live like that. 

 

The Little Old Leicester mentality in a nutshell this.

[Lako42]

5 hours ago, stevebfox said:

Your right, because they don't remember the rubbish owners that came before them.

I remember so many shit players who have got us relegated, should I tolerate the current ones because they might be a little bit better than Gabor Bori? 

[Sean2000]

The owners aren't allowed to put more money into the club as we're on the cusp of PSR already. Which means the owner is putting £35m a year into the first team, plus whatever they spend on women, youth, training ground etc. Accounts suggest it's nearer £100m a year total.

 

We're where we are because Rodgers took a really talented squad of players and got them relegated. The psr problems stem from the subsequent loss of prize money. 

 

What do people think a change of ownership would mean in practical terms?

[Tommy G]

33 minutes ago, Sean2000 said:

The owners aren't allowed to put more money into the club as we're on the cusp of PSR already. Which means the owner is putting £35m a year into the first team, plus whatever they spend on women, youth, training ground etc. Accounts suggest it's nearer £100m a year total.

 

We're where we are because Rodgers took a really talented squad of players and got them relegated. The psr problems stem from the subsequent loss of prize money. 

 

What do people think a change of ownership would mean in practical terms?

I think the general consensus (on here anyway) is that a change of Ownership could bring a fresh approach to the strategy and personnel at the club. A new BofD for starters, I don't think its about funding. 

 

We are still an attractive proposition to a buyer, we have the training ground infrastructure in place and effectively the stadium has planning permission for expansion. 

 

Whatever you think of Top he will find it hard to let it go, his dad effectively died at the stadium so his emotional attachment will be huge for just that alone. Even if we started the ball rolling now it would probably take 12 months to complete - having done M&A on a smaller scale than this, it can take forever potentially.  

 

 

[Leicester_Loyal]

59 minutes ago, Sean2000 said:

The owners aren't allowed to put more money into the club as we're on the cusp of PSR already. Which means the owner is putting £35m a year into the first team, plus whatever they spend on women, youth, training ground etc. Accounts suggest it's nearer £100m a year total.

 

We're where we are because Rodgers took a really talented squad of players and got them relegated. The psr problems stem from the subsequent loss of prize money. 

 

What do people think a change of ownership would mean in practical terms?

And who allowed Rodgers to relegate that team? A dustbin lid could have foreseen us going down and would have got rid of Rodgers much earlier but Top with his head in the sand just carried on and allowed him us to go down. 
 

We signed absolute dross as well, some of that was definitely Rodgers but others were making the calls on these players as well. 
 

I absolutely hated Rodgers in his last 18 months here, he was openly calling out the board, the chairman, the fans, yet our glorious Top was allowing it to happen. Then once Top got a bit of stick he got all arsey and started slating the fans as well and playing the victim. 

Edited 15 January by Leicester_Loyal

[ourla]

A couple of thoughts:

 

#1 We have very little power to affect/change ownership. Doesn't mean we don't discuss their performance (same as DoF, Manager, players, etc) but unless we are going to organise protests and campaign to try to force them out it's just that - a sharing of opinion. And, I am not sure many would be comfortable going after Top in this way.

 

#2 If we do get new owners it's a coin toss (at best) if we get a good one or not. Liverpool fans have had issues with their owners in the past but it all went a bit quieter under Klopp and now with their push for the title. Man U, Chelsea, Newcastle have all had new owners. Would be a big debate on how that is working out.

 

Bear in mind I am still scarred us getting rid of Bloomfield and appointing McLintock as manager 

[LCFCJohn]

3 hours ago, Sean2000 said:

The owners aren't allowed to put more money into the club as we're on the cusp of PSR already. Which means the owner is putting £35m a year into the first team, plus whatever they spend on women, youth, training ground etc. Accounts suggest it's nearer £100m a year total.

 

We're where we are because Rodgers took a really talented squad of players and got them relegated. The psr problems stem from the subsequent loss of prize money. 

 

What do people think a change of ownership would mean in practical terms?

To be proactive. Not to have allowed the Rodgers situation to reach the point it did. Rodgers wasn’t in charge of sacking himself.

 

Run the club smartly to maximise what can be achieved within the (albeit stupid and uncompetitive PSR rules). PSR isn’t the problem, signing the likes of Danny Ward for £12.5 mill and Skipp for £25mill and paying the likes of Ward and Choudhury in excess of £50k per week, having awarded them new contracts on terms they nowhere near deserved is the problem.

 

Think outside the box on recruitment of playing staff and management. Tap into markets where we can bring gems in with potential high reward.

 

Have a joined up strategy that has contingency plans in place. Not bouncing from Enzo to Cooper to RVN and having a squad of misfits put together by regimes with very different principles.

 

Basically there is loads that can be done to run the club more effectively within the constraints. There are a number of clubs doing so at the moment.

[Foxin_Mad]

17 hours ago, LCFCJohn said:

I don’t think the question was one that involved living in the past, it was about now and which other owners in this league would we take, whilst our current owner is taking the club down the drain I will add.

 

Brentford and Brighton work heavily upon data analysis.

 

Villa changed their back room staff and brought the right people to world alongside Emery.

 

Bournemouth actually use their multi-club model well.

 

Fulham seem to recruit well also.

 

Our owner does none of the above. Those clubs are smartly run. We are not. 
 

As @Leicester_Loyal says, you have to separate Vichai from Top..

None of these clubs has ever or will ever win the Premier League or FA Cup though.

 

There's well run mediocracy and there is winning, id take winning any day.

 

Honestly is there any point being a team like Bournemouth? Whats to look forward to? mid tableness. 

 

Also there was NO difference between Vichai and Top King Power have always been a bit loopy since day one, I think the fact that Vichai died has rose tinted his running of the club, we were largely lucky and based on Pearson's structure and squad building started in 2009. The same management team exists now the Vichai put in place, theres little evidence much would have been done differently. They took a risk, were rewarded with the league title and FA Cup, thought they could get more, they gambled and lost. A bad manager, poor recruitment and failure to act has been our downfall.  Brighton, Villa and co are Red Cartel and Greedy Six compliant, doing as they are told, existing in mediocracy for eternity, **** that. 

 

[Rusko187]

13 hours ago, stevebfox said:

It wasn't long ago our owners were the envy of everyone outside the 'big clubs'. OK, the wheels have come off a bit since the Chairman passed away, but wow, we are still so fortunate to have King Power. Who do you think are going to ride in and improve us? We have had some seriously bad owners with no finance to back us in the last 40 years. If you want them gone fair enough, personally I don't see anybody else taking us on that would be an improvement - have you got Elon's email, maybe he would take us over Liverpool if he knew we were available!?

4 hours ago, Sean2000 said:

The owners aren't allowed to put more money into the club as we're on the cusp of PSR already. Which means the owner is putting £35m a year into the first team, plus whatever they spend on women, youth, training ground etc. Accounts suggest it's nearer £100m a year total.

 

We're where we are because Rodgers took a really talented squad of players and got them relegated. The psr problems stem from the subsequent loss of prize money. 

 

What do people think a change of ownership would mean in practical terms?

Really don't understand the rationale of accepting poor ownership/management on the basis that there could be worse out there. Yet currently we're being run by a guy with zero business acumen. Any half decent owner would be making changes with some of the catastrophic management from our board of directors. I don't deny his heart and wallet may be in the right place, but you can't just run a successful football club by throwing money at it, you need to understand the fundamentals of business and recruitment in getting the right people.

 

The issues with this club are not just performances on the pitch, it's the recent contempt for the fanbase, poor communication, price hiking.. there's many things not going well at this club and that's all on the owner.

 

But hey, he's a lovely guy... sure we'll be fine if we keep smiling and waving.

[pkonline]

Options for owners

 

1. Stick with King Power

2. Sell to American owners

3. Sell to a nation state

4. Stick to a local person "done good"

5. Fan ownership