Could Ruud Walk away ?

[Paninistickers]

13 minutes ago, STEVIE B said:

Manager's get sacked, they rarely, if ever just walk. Why ? Because they'd lose millions in their pay-off. 

He's going nowhere. 

Micky Adams. Wayne Rooney. Two very rare examples I can think of of a manager holding their hand up and resigning. 

[Stevosevic]

Are there any quotes from RVN on transfers from today? 

[Tuna]

Just now, Stevosevic said:

Are there any quotes from RVN on transfers from today? 

Yep, in the how many signings thread from @moore_94

[MonarchFox]

I'm sure he's done his due diligence before he came here and new what he was letting himself in for.

 

It's a full reset at the club, but we need to offload so much deadwood it's untrue

 

I doubt he'll walk, he did that at PSV and will then look like someone who throws his toys out the pram when stuff doesn't go his way.  Needs to coach this team better though

[Foxin_Mad]

2 hours ago, hejammy said:

However unlikely - if Elon Musk does in some bizarre world look at us - I would walk away from this club - the guy is a disgraceful - yet ingenious - human being

I assume the same would be true of a Saudi or Qatari prince, A Chinese business owner, an odious Private equity yank! Even a Thai duty free empire?!

 

There aren't many decent legit groups owning football clubs sadly, particularly! Even the sponsors are vile, football is rapidly becoming vile. 

[Dan]

Wouldn't say likely but not impossible either. I wouldn't blame him. There's no way he's been convinced to come here on the basis of us signing "cheap full backs".

 

Sort of hope he does in a way. There really would be nowhere to hide for the incompetents above him.

[Fox92]

11 minutes ago, Stevosevic said:

Are there any quotes from RVN on transfers from today? 

On PSR he said they spoke about it before he signed and they were "clear on that".

 

I don't trust or like this board but I think they'd have explained everything. At the end of the day Van Nistelrooy was out of working and looking to prove himself. 

[Number 6]

Despite what you read on here I think it's very unlikely. 

[Phil Mitchell]

2 hours ago, Lako42 said:

He's not going to walk away and then shit all over the people that hired him as it marks him out as a bad apple in the industry. 

 

 

Remember we are well ran and very lucky to have the ownership that we do. 

Nice try, Jon.

[ROB-THE-BLUE]

Talksport just said another premier league manager has gone this afternoon 

[lcfcbluearmy]

6 hours ago, VintageFox73 said:

I wouldn't blame if he did, would you ? 

 

The club is an absolute shambles, what lies has he been told by Top & Co, i mean it wouldn't be the first time the  manager hasn't been told the full truth in the last few seasons is it !

 

PSR /FFP , NO signings on the horizon when clubs in and around  are already getting players in for the next run of games after the cup . Much like last season it really is Shit or bust time again, stay up this season in our first season back is priority so we have to take a risk and play devils advocate with the rules and spend like Florist did in their first season back up, go down and we are well and truly fukked for a good few seasons i think. EFL will hammer us with a points deduction, transfer embargo as well i expect .

 

People can blame Rudkin all day long, but ultimately its TOP who is letting him do it time and time again ..... Time to sell up its getting beyond a joke !

 

 

Look there is plenty wrong with the running of this club but we have absolutely no suggestion the RVN has been lied too. He hasn't said anything that alludes to that effect and there is no evid2nce that suggests that.

 

He may very well have come into this Job knowing that we wouldn't spend/sign many people in this window and even that we were close to the limit on PSR and might get another charge.

 

Like I say there is plenty of things wrong with the running of the club IMO Rudkin is useless and needs to be sacked but let's not jump to conclusions and make up that the manager has been lied to when there is absolutely no evidence for this currently

[Muzzy_no7]

If it’s the catalyst we would want it to be then yes, I hope he does. Top needs a kick up the arse and Susan and Rudders need replacing with a competent CEO, DOF and technical/sporting director. 

[Jethrolcfc]

Dyche in then now he’s been sacked! Might keep us up 

[justfoxes]

7 hours ago, SpacedX said:

Bloody autocorrect 

[The Horse's Mouth]

He shouldn’t be in a premier league job period, he’s not going to walk away mid season, maybe at the end. But he took the job as a stepping stone if he’s able to push us and potentially stay up then he’s done what he set out to do. If he stays and goes down I don’t think that’ll affect his reputation too much. 

[Daggers]

12 hours ago, Finnegan said:

 

Even if he was pissed off, managers don't quit.

 

Rooney just quit to save the club having to pay off his contract.

[Vindaloo FOX]

5 hours ago, The Horse's Mouth said:

He shouldn’t be in a premier league job period, he’s not going to walk away mid season, maybe at the end. But he took the job as a stepping stone if he’s able to push us and potentially stay up then he’s done what he set out to do. If he stays and goes down I don’t think that’ll affect his reputation too much. 

It shouldn't affect his reputation at all, he has sadly walked into a right shitshow.

 

 

[LCFCJohn]

17 hours ago, Foxin_Mad said:

I assume the same would be true of a Saudi or Qatari prince, A Chinese business owner, an odious Private equity yank! Even a Thai duty free empire?!

 

There aren't many decent legit groups owning football clubs sadly, particularly! Even the sponsors are vile, football is rapidly becoming vile. 

The Middle Eastern countries and regimes are obviously vile and that has been done to death with the Newcastle stuff. 
 

Im not sure you can compare a Chinese business owner, Yank equity firms or KP with Musk though. They might all be dubious in the business world and have dodgy dealings.

 

Musk though, is a vile human who is intent on interfering and disrupting world peace. If he just ran his businesses without trying to interfere with politics of countries he has nothing to do with or using his platforms to spread his, quite frankly, disgusting views, then he would be more in line with the examples you gave.

[sly1]

It's no different just aswell kept cooper .

[Finnegan]

8 hours ago, Daggers said:

Rooney just quit to save the club having to pay off his contract.

 

Wayne Rooney is vastly more wealthy and I'm going to go out on a limb here and say Plymouth were probably not paying him Premier League money. He also went by "mutual consent" meaning he probably took a pay off, just a reduced one. Staying was also doing irreparable damage to whatever shreds of a coaching career Rooney has left. 

 

Ruud will almost certainly be walking away from millions if he quits. He's also not harming his reputation at all being here because the narrative outside the club is very much that Leicester is a shit show and whatever happens isn't his fault. 

 

But mostly, it's unbelievably insulting to his intelligence for any of you to imply he'd be thick enough to not realise the situation coming in. The idea that he COULD be lied to by the club at this stage is just silly. 

 

The evidence has been there for the whole footballing world to see and he had inside knowledge via Enzo. 

 

[st albans fox]

9 hours ago, Daggers said:

Rooney just quit to save the club having to pay off his contract.

Trying to save his tattered reputation …..  didn’t want some stuff being publicised. Trying to take the moral high ground 

[daddylonglegs]

14 minutes ago, sly1 said:

It's no different just aswell kept cooper .

I am not sure how any Leicester fan who watches the games can genuinely believe this. 

 

If you just look at the results, sure. If you watch the games (And also consider who we've played, the injuries we have) then you cannot look at the team and not see improvement. 

[Tommy G]

1 hour ago, daddylonglegs said:

I am not sure how any Leicester fan who watches the games can genuinely believe this. 

 

If you just look at the results, sure. If you watch the games (And also consider who we've played, the injuries we have) then you cannot look at the team and not see improvement. 

We shouldn't of kept Cooper but I'm struggling to see the improvement? We were never battered under Cooper, we've been battered by Wolves (at home) and Newcastle - shipped goals for fun. Granted some of that is down to personnel and Mads being injured, but please put it in black and white where the improvement is - we are now in the relegation zone and had 5 defeats on the bounce. 

 

Don't worry Leicester didn't stay up but they ''improved''

 

This isn't a pop at you, I just don't get it 

[Muzzy_no7]

Yes and I think he will 

[daddylonglegs]

12 minutes ago, Tommy G said:

We shouldn't of kept Cooper but I'm struggling to see the improvement? We were never battered under Cooper, we've been battered by Wolves (at home) and Newcastle - shipped goals for fun. Granted some of that is down to personnel and Mads being injured, but please put it in black and white where the improvement is - we are now in the relegation zone and had 5 defeats on the bounce. 

 

Don't worry Leicester didn't stay up but they ''improved''

 

This isn't a pop at you, I just don't get it 

It was dumb luck that the performances we had under Cooper didn't lead to batterings. That and a keeper playing out of his skin. 

 

xG is by no means the be all and end all, but is a very good indicator of a team's ability to create chances & how good they are at preventing them. We lost 4-2 to Arsenal under Cooper, on the surface - not a battering. Diving into the stats, the xG was Arsenal 6.05 (!!!!) to our 0.34 (!!!). Dumb luck. 

 

You then compare that to the 'battering' we recieved under Ruud against Wolves where Wolves had 4 shots on target, create an xG of 1.14 and win 3-0. Sometimes you don't get what you deserve and Cooper's reign is indicative of that. 

 

 

Despite a significantly worse pool of players to select from against significantly stronger opposition (On the whole), we look like a team with a game plan. Despite the media's depiction of us suddenly being terrible defensively, we are conceding fewer chances per game than under Cooper & have maintained a decent goal threat (Once again, despite having fixtures against City, Newcastle, Liverpool & Villa). 

 

I can understand the frustration with Ruud (I am still furious about Wolves, particularly his goalkeeper selection), but lets judge him at the end of January. At that stage he'll have had a much fairer crack of the whip in terms of fixtures and hopefully have some more bodies to choose from.