Championship 2025/26 Season

[Marky mark]

What happens now 

two weeks after the season has ended 

do players still train 

are those out of contract still at the club etc 

[Raj]

2 minutes ago, FrankieADZ said:

really? the rules are there for a reason and they broke them....numerous times(reports are theyve done it a good number of times this season)...while its not end of the world stuff its still wrong on so many levels, 

i doubt youd be having the same views if it happened to leicester, 

 

also as for saying football should be ashamed....like bruh, football's morale compass is f'd up anyway there is no shame anyway

 If any **** came to Leicester to spy they need fecking help.

 

 

[FrankieADZ]

1 minute ago, Marky mark said:

What happens now 

two weeks after the season has ended 

do players still train 

are those out of contract still at the club etc 

boro players will be training as normal until something is announced, but i doubt anything will come out this week

[FrankieADZ]

Just now, Raj said:

 If any **** came to Leicester to spy they need fecking help.

 

 

thats true, youd just see someone laughing in the bushes,

buts its just the ethics of it all....and the fact theyve done it to more than 1 club this season too, its just not a good look at all for Southampton or the EFL,

[filbertway]

I don't really understand why anyone cares about other clubs watching their training sessions. I may be naive here, but I just don't see how much you can information you can glean from training sessions that you can't get from just analysing their matches. The only thing I can think of is that you may get an idea of any key players that pick up injuries, but that usually gets leaked anyway.

 

It seems weird to send a "spy" and seems weird to be bothered about it.

[Raj]

1 minute ago, FrankieADZ said:

thats true, youd just see someone laughing in the bushes,

buts its just the ethics of it all....and the fact theyve done it to more than 1 club this season too, its just not a good look at all for Southampton or the EFL,

Yeah true about the ethics stuff and get your point  but how much does it really help?

 

Pity no one at LCFC thought outside the box to try and get an advantage!

[Aleksz]

Just now, filbertway said:

I don't really understand why anyone cares about other clubs watching their training sessions. I may be naive here, but I just don't see how much you can information you can glean from training sessions that you can't get from just analysing their matches. The only thing I can think of is that you may get an idea of any key players that pick up injuries, but that usually gets leaked anyway.

 

It seems weird to send a "spy" and seems weird to be bothered about it.

A lot. This bloke allegedly had a high tech microphone to pick up coaches voices too as well as cameras. They could have taken line ups, set piece routines, pressing schemes and shapes. Think this is all being a bit under estimated by the average football fan. 

[FrankieADZ]

1 minute ago, Raj said:

Yeah true about the ethics stuff and get your point  but how much does it really help?

 

Pity no one at LCFC thought outside the box to try and get an advantage!

all depends on what was taken when they was spying..and it doesnt help theyve done it to other clubs too...so not a great look for southampton in that regard

its a massive shitstorm really

also LCFC....advantage.....the club doesnt know that word

[filbertway]

Just now, Aleksz said:

A lot. This bloke allegedly had a high tech microphone to pick up coaches voices too as well as cameras. They could have taken line ups, set piece routines, pressing schemes and shapes. Think this is all being a bit under estimated by the average football fan. 

If it was that much of a benefit I don't understand why they got battered in the game. I think it's being massively overestimated to be fair.

 

Most of the information will be available from looking at them in actual match situations. Most head coaches are obsessed with one way of playing, they're not going to make drastic changes pre match in a big game.

[Richmondfox]

8 minutes ago, Aleksz said:

A lot. This bloke allegedly had a high tech microphone to pick up coaches voices too as well as cameras. They could have taken line ups, set piece routines, pressing schemes and shapes. Think this is all being a bit under estimated by the average football fan. 

They went to all that ‘alleged’ effort and our coaching staff and players seemingly never bothered to watch the game live let alone watching it back to correct their constant mistakes. 

[FrankieADZ]

5 minutes ago, filbertway said:

If it was that much of a benefit I don't understand why they got battered in the game. I think it's being massively overestimated to be fair.

 

Most of the information will be available from looking at them in actual match situations. Most head coaches are obsessed with one way of playing, they're not going to make drastic changes pre match in a big game.

i guess you could counter that by saying they knew how to counter boro.....but its all hear say etc

its the ethics of the game theyd say, kinda like knowing the answers to a quiz before youd got the quiz so to speak

 

its a massive shitstorm really for football in general...not just this....the chelsea stuff....Man City's....ours etc, football is just a shambles atm

Edited 13 May by FrankieADZ

[21st Century Fox]

It can sometimes take an entire half of a match before you can readjust to a particular way a team is setup. Imagine being able to do that from the start, you’ve gained a huge advantage.

 

Not only that if Southampton played a particular way and Boro were setting up to counter that, Southampton would already know that and could then adjust accordingly. There’s so much more they could learn than just watching back matches.

Edited 13 May by 21st Century Fox

[HankMarvin]

8 minutes ago, filbertway said:

If it was that much of a benefit I don't understand why they got battered in the game. I think it's being massively overestimated to be fair.

 

Most of the information will be available from looking at them in actual match situations. Most head coaches are obsessed with one way of playing, they're not going to make drastic changes pre match in a big game.

Baring in mind it was minutes from a penalty kick lottery, and they have said they were practising penalties. It doesn’t matter it didn’t end up there it’s still cheating. Then there is player selection, lines up etc unique patterns of play to deal with the opponent.

 

“If it was that much of a benefit I don't understand why they got battered in the game”

 

If you are talking about the first leg, what’s not to say Southampton completely changed their game plan? I suspect that might be the first game under the manager they have not had a shot on target since he took over. 

[Tiny earl]

1 hour ago, Raj said:

If Saints get banned from the Final then Football should be ashamed.

 

You can watch loads of videos on opposition etc, what they did was wrong but hardly the end of the world stuff.

 

You can’t see if their best player is likely to play and you don’t know where the auxiliary penalty takers

are likely to put their pens.

This is straightforward cheating,they’ve been caught, now they should be hammered!

 

 

[Foxin_Mad]

Really it should be far more points that Sheffield Wednesday had deducted. Its a lot more cheating than a club being allowed to have a bad owner that the EFL have supposedly vetted at some point! 

[Leicester_Loyal]

Sometimes I feel like I come from a different planet, do people really believe Saints will be banned from the PO final? After winning the semi? Imagine the court case and legal battle.

 

It'll be a fine and possibly a points deduction next season.

[Aleksz]

Heard there's a few opposition teams that have been left shocked with how either Southampton turned up doing something completely different to previous games or have adapted immediately to something new done themselves. Don't think this a one off, throw the book at them. 

[filbertway]

1 hour ago, HankMarvin said:

Baring in mind it was minutes from a penalty kick lottery, and they have said they were practising penalties. It doesn’t matter it didn’t end up there it’s still cheating. Then there is player selection, lines up etc unique patterns of play to deal with the opponent.

 

“If it was that much of a benefit I don't understand why they got battered in the game”

 

If you are talking about the first leg, what’s not to say Southampton completely changed their game plan? I suspect that might be the first game under the manager they have not had a shot on target since he took over. 

I don't think anyone knows where they're striking the ball until they begin their run up. You might have data from previous games that shows a player prefers a certain way, but even then I don't put much merit in it.

 

Did you mean Middlesbrough or Southampton changed their game plan? If you mean Southampton decided to take the risk of being battered all game and hope for a 0-0 then it's hoping for dumb luck, but hardly revolutionary stuff.

 

I could tell them for free from just watching the odd game and highlights, Ayling loves to bomb on at times, leave Scienza up the pitch and look to play him in when the opportunity arises.
 

I just don't get it at all haha.

Maybe it's just me being emotional and illogical because I'm tired of managers treating games like chess and being more worried about nullifying the opposition and reducing risk than actually trying to effect games positively. 

[J. James]

1 hour ago, Raj said:

Yeah true about the ethics stuff and get your point  but how much does it really help?

 

Pity no one at LCFC thought outside the box to try and get an advantage!

Ahh, but to think outside the box first you need to be capable of rational thought.

 

Any road, we like to do our cheating financially.

 

If we sent spies they would be "camouflaged" in fluorescent pink with a flashing neon "SPY" written on an oversized hat.

[Les-TA-Jon]

It's not really about whether the spying does or doesn't give an advantage, or to what extent. It's more just shady, unethical stuff for teams in 'fair' competition to be doing to each other. 

[lcfc_forever]

Read Nick De Marco has been hired by Middlesbrough, shows how seriously they're making their case. 

[filbertway]

Mad that Nick DiMarco will go down as one of the most influential championship players in the 20s

[Kitchandro]

4 hours ago, Foxin_Mad said:

People keep banging on a bout the spy thing not being worthy of a points deduction. This is far more worthy than deductions for having bad accounts. 

Not really. Neither make any sense from the perspective of points deductions. Money is a bigger advantage than spying on training though, by a huge amount. Money buys you better players. Spying might give you information you could have got by watching matches, at best.

 

I’m baffled by the online reaction to this. There’s no way Boro lost because someone spied on their training session. It’s just one of those weird obsessive things managers do now because they believe the hype about ‘fine margins’ and all that nonsense.

 

The most serious part of this amounts to trespassing. There’s no real footballing advantage gained and considering players are diving for penalties and getting players sent off by faking injury left right and centre (which makes a tangible difference to a match), any points deduction or expulsion would be an absolute disgrace. Especially as absolutely no rules apply to the bigger clubs.

Edited 13 May by Kitchandro

[Raj]

Paddy Power have just done one of their usual piss take funny adverts about this and its about the truth.

 

I know a few want to cry and make a bigger deal out of it than me but ffs it's a bloke in a Bush!!🤣🤣

[Super_horns]

Sky done a re run of what the spy did allegedly 

 

 

 

Must be a really slow news day in the North East .