Rodger’s vs the board (chicken vs egg)

[ozleicester]

getting rid/letting Kasper go  is all on Rodgers, this was the single biggestreason for our relegation.
The board have failed in every way since 2021.
The current squad is barely good enough for the champioship

[Soar Fox]

1 hour ago, ozleicester said:

getting rid/letting Kasper go  is all on Rodgers, this was the single biggestreason for our relegation.
The board have failed in every way since 2021.
The current squad is barely good enough for the champioship

I thought the same until he turned up at Celtic. 

[Royston.]

Rodgers went from being arguably our best ever boss to one of the worst (only eclipsed by Cooper and Van Nincompoop)

 

It was like he was begging for the sack by picking Ward and Ward was begging to be dropped by being inexplicably awful.

 

Still mainly Tops fault as he wouldnt get rid, we could all see where it was going and despite numerous cock ups by top and co since, this shambles of a season and years of pain to come were all set in motion back then

[OldBob]

6 hours ago, The Year Of The Fox said:

Valid?

 

He wanted to replace players that had got him 5th and 8th place finishes AND an FA Cup win 9 months before losing to Forest because all of a sudden they’d become crap? Because a manager on more money than Ancelotti at the time couldn’t reinvigorate them? 

 

He lost not a single player the summer after the Cup win, and also added to the squad.

He was basically telling you the signings made in that summer weren’t good enough. He bloody requested them! 
 

Take that poisonous dwarfs attitude of throwing the players under the bus and compare it to Pearsons where he’d take a proverbial bullet for them in the media.

 

I wouldn’t want Rodgers in the trenches with me, I know that much.
 

As for saying he wasn’t backed- £220m spent on players during Rodgers’ tenure- the most we’ve ever spent. It’s not the boards fault he signed shite, who played even worse, thus not putting themselves in the shop window for a resale.

 

And when he was ‘backed’ he signed Tete, Kristisnsen and Souttar. 
 

Little wonder the board were reluctant to invest in him further. It’s probably the one thing they’ve got right in a number of years.

 

 

Would’ve still been much cheaper sacking the guy after Warsaw away, compensating him, and getting in literally any other half decent manager who could get a tune out of Justin, Ricardo, Maddison, Youri, Barnes and Vardy

 

Dont let the passage of time fool you.

 

 

 

This! 
 

We can look at the board’s decision making behind the scenes all we want (and rightly so). But Rodgers impact was hugely negative. That FA cup win was the biggest plaster over a complete failure as a manager for us in the league.
 

like what’s said above, he inherited a top squad. And make no mistake he was employed to get us top 4! We were on the brink of this despite Puel being a rubbish manager. Rodgers FAILED twice and then blamed the squad. The teams around us, trying to get that fourth position were all shockingly bad as well. This wasn’t entitlement, it was what should of happened under a decent manager.
 

I started to doubt him as a manager around the same time as our FA Cup win. Our defence was getting worst and worst each year, the refusal to stop passing out from the back, when we were under pressure. And what everyone over looks… Vardy was a far better player before Rodgers came in. You can pull up all the stats you want, no matter what numbers you produce because on paper they were good numbers. He would have got twice as much if our owners had employed a counter attacking manager at the time. This was Vardy with unbelievable pace if you remember.  
 

The worst decision we made under his time as manager was employing his man from Celtic as our head of recruitment. That single handily impacted this club for years to come. This was the moment that started to change the mentality of the overall squad. Look at the players since then. Lots of talent in some cases but a poor mentality! 
I think the problems we have now are because the squad now still has that same mentality that Rodgers installed all those years ago, from his direct influence as a coach or the players he brought in at the time (Quitters, blame game, lack of focus and character etc).

 

Biggest conman in football all hidden by amazing PR

[foxinsocks]

7 hours ago, The Horse's Mouth said:

Christ people saying he wasn’t back while going around giving Ryan betrand 70 bags a week and all the other dross he infested into the club is wild.

 

i don’t hate him as much as other people though, it was on the board for not sacking him earlier not that he was justified in his management towards the end.

 

had we pulled the trigger earlier, us getting Emery would’ve genuinely been possible 

Who was Bernard's agent? 

[LcFc_Smiv]

6 hours ago, ozleicester said:

getting rid/letting Kasper go  is all on Rodgers, this was the single biggestreason for our relegation.
The board have failed in every way since 2021.
The current squad is barely good enough for the champioship

That was very much on the club and not Rodgers.

 

It's catch 22, the way Rodgers wanted us to operate has largely led to our financial position now, the board didn't want/couldn't afford to continue backing us in such a way and he threw the towel in. It was then a toxic mess of a man who wanted to go but wouldn't walk, and a board who wanted rid but didn't want to pay up. As always we the fans were the ones to pay.

[Claudio Fannieri]

It was the perfect storm, with all parties contributing to what turned into a complete clown show. 
 

The board clearly led Rodgers to believe there would be a rebuild, then pulled the rug from beneath him, to make matters worse they have then continued to sell a false narrative to managers in regard to available funds and bringing players in, it happened with Enzo and now RVN. 
 

They also sanctioned the sale of our captain and goalkeeper and the decline in standards on and off the pitch started in earnest, this decision single handedly expedited our relegation. 
 

They allowed Brendan to continue despite shipping 4 away to Arsenal, 5 away to Brighton and 6 away to Tottenham all before the end of September. He should have been sacked then, they didn’t act when  the season and situation was completely salvageable. 
 

By the time we did sack him the damage was done, we were in a scrap with very few fighters, too many players had checked out and the lure of Leicester, footballs bright young thing had gone, the rot had set in. 
 

Brendan had thrown in the towel and for me that is unforgivable and will always tarnish his legacy and reputation with us despite  what he did achieve.

 

For me the majority of this will and will always sit with the board who did nothing but stand back and watch Rome burn, they are truly culpable. They gave Rodgers way too much control gave hIm a ridiculous contract, allowed him free rein and when they finally started to reel him back in, he gave up and they allowed him to carry on. As soon as it become obvious he had downed tools, he should have been gone, for the greater good of the club, instead our board did nothing, threw good money after bad in January and then when it was too late sacked him anyway and we still end up relegated. 
 

An utter clusterfcuk of epic proportions which was wholly avoidable had our board acted with any kind of decisiveness and leadership. 
 

For me it will always be 25% Rodgers and 75% on the board for enabling it and not taking appropriate action when required. 

[turkish14]

I still maintain now that despite boardroom level errors that didn’t help, I feel the squad for the relegation season were unfit and not as physically well prepared. That’s on Rodger’s. 
 

when your not as prepared for games, opponents move the ball quicker around you, particularly on the press. We couldn’t cope so sat back more, which gave the impression of not trying. 

[Stadt]

He had the opportunity for a rebuild but the head of recruitment he had installed signed Daka, Soumare, Vestergaard & Bertrand AND we didn’t sell anybody that summer.

 

The recruitment under Rodgers and Congerton was largely shit.

 

Justin and Fofana were the only outright successes in 4 years (Tielemans’ permanent signing doesn’t count). There were a few ok signings like Castagne too.

 

If he’d have just played a side with more defensive responsibility we’d have been fine. Just dropping Ward after his 3rd bad game would have kept us up.

[Parker Pen]

I do hope that Ridgers looks back at his time here and realises how his frequent poor decision making especially around man management is also as much a contributing factor alongside not being given millions of pounds to torch on average players because crooked Lee had wasted it all!

Two come to mind; Ending Kaspers record breaking consecutive match run at Watford away by playing Ward and Brentford at home in the sun on the opening match of the season. I still am massively suspicious about what he did during that match!

[Dames]

Rodgers temper tantrum and inability to let go of his own ego is a huge contributing factor in why we are where we are but Rudkin is still the true master of our demise. The Maguire transfer in hindsight has ruined us because now Rudkin thinks he can play hard ball at every opportunity and its directly lead to us losing lots of players for nothing. He should have sold Tielemans and Soyuncu a year or two earlier when it became clear they would not sign also consistently turning fees down for our squad players because he thinks he can get more and then they are still here (Soumare, Vestergaard and more recently McAteer). 
 

Currently i’ve got no hope for the future, i think we are in for a long decade at the very least. 

[Fox92]

Disappointing how Rodgers ended his time because he gave us a couple great seasons. European football through league qualification and winning the FA Cup as well, I don't think we'll ever do it again. 

[Chelmofox]

22 minutes ago, Parker Pen said:

I do hope that Ridgers looks back at his time here and realises how his frequent poor decision making especially around man management is also as much a contributing factor alongside not being given millions of pounds to torch on average players because crooked Lee had wasted it all!

Two come to mind; Ending Kaspers record breaking consecutive match run at Watford away by playing Ward and Brentford at home in the sun on the opening match of the season. I still am massively suspicious about what he did during that match!

He looks at his bank account and doesn’t care. Difference between fans who give a toss and those in the game making money. 

[SafewayFox]

12 hours ago, bovril said:

I think his legacy is complex. He's a good coach as he's shown elsewhere, and despite missing out on the top 4 he was essentially pretty successful - our two highest back to back finishes ever and a major trophy. And our regression after that trophy win was obviously not totally down to him.

 

At the same time as Davie G says above his demeanour and man management were seriously detrimental to the team and hastened our decline. He should have gone earlier. His spell at Liverpool also suggests he finds it difficult to create sustained success or reverse slides. 

 

I think some of the quite intense dislike towards him seems to be influenced partially by his personality. But he played a big role in our relegation. We sacked him 3 games later than we did Ranieri in 2017. If he's gone earlier and we'd stayed up as we did in 2017, I think his spell would be seen pretty positively. 

 

 

 

I admit to hating him more than I should partly because of his little clap.

 

But Rodgers as a coach might have been good but WOW how poor he was at spotting talent outside of the club was criminal.

 

Jannik’s signing sums up Rodgers and his negative influence on transfers during his time here.

[Lako42]

Hate the *****

 

After standing in that away end at Roma I'll never forgive him. 

[CosbehFox]

1 hour ago, SafewayFox said:

I admit to hating him more than I should partly because of his little clap.

 

But Rodgers as a coach might have been good but WOW how poor he was at spotting talent outside of the club was criminal.

 

Jannik’s signing sums up Rodgers and his negative influence on transfers during his time here.

Got PTSD hearing Potter do the same on Thursday night 

[sylofox]

Rodgers was just a spoilt brat. Whatever mummy and daddy bought him he wanted more. Didn't even give half the players he wanted a chance.

 

Then his man management.

Openly states the players we had were not good enough.

 

Care to tell us Brendan what level you played at?     Newport on the fvcking isle of Wight.

No wonder he lost the players. Lucky one of them didn't knock him the fvck out.

 

Didn't really want him and never fvcking liked him. His spending destroyed us.

 

Yes and the deeper problem he was allowed to by idiots.

 

The guy is and was a cvnt.

[LFEFox23]

Perfect storm for relegation - 

 

Deluded, bratty manager who's head fully turned when whispers of Man Utd interest and an incompetent, skint, poorly ran board backing him.... Was only ever going to end in one way. 

[trabuch]

Chickens vs Ego surely?

[OnlyOneCity]

Calling put the players and saying they weren’t good enough was extremely bad man management. How many of us on here would feel knocked and unworthy if our bosses had announced to the world that he wanted more quality in his office/workplace and that his current crop weren’t good enough? A team with Barnes, Maddison and Tielemans should never have been relegated. There’s 3 quality players for you.

[adejo92]

I'd still take him over RVN

[ClaphamFox]

12 minutes ago, OnlyOneCity said:

Calling put the players and saying they weren’t good enough was extremely bad man management. How many of us on here would feel knocked and unworthy if our bosses had announced to the world that he wanted more quality in his office/workplace and that his current crop weren’t good enough? A team with Barnes, Maddison and Tielemans should never have been relegated. There’s 3 quality players for you.

Rodgers was correct in identifying a cultural problem that was developing within the club, and he was also correct in saying we needed a major refresh of the squad to continue being competitive. His frustrations were understandable - he got an early glimpse of the kind of issues that we're all frustrated about now. Unfortunately he dealt with the situation poorly and lost the dressing room by repeatedly moaning about the squad in public. So while he was not responsible for the terrible decisions at board level (eg allowing Schmeichel to leave and not replacing him), he didn't have the character or managerial skills to navigate the situation and ended up making it even worse.

Edited 4 March by ClaphamFox

[The Year Of The Fox]

1 hour ago, Lako42 said:

Hate the *****

 

After standing in that away end at Roma I'll never forgive him. 

Agreed entirely

 

The Top 4 failings twice weren’t great

 

The result at Warsaw away was embarrassing 

 

The Forest FA Cup was humiliating 

 

But that Roma away performance was the worst of the lot. 
 

Yes I was at all 3. 

[Stuntman_Mike]

13 hours ago, Corky said:

If we had been properly coached we could have put this team out:

 

Iversen

 

Castagne

Soyuncu

Evans

Justin

 

Tielemans 

Ndidi 

 

Barnes

Maddison 

Dewsbury-Hall

 

Vardy 

 

Chuck in a few decent squad players and there is more than enough to finish comfortably. That relegation came exactly at the wrong time with our overspending and the tightening of the financial rules. We were so far ahead of Fulham, Bournemouth, Brentford etc that survival and not getting into PSR difficulty would have seen us ok.

 

We have lost it in three years and are very unlikely to get back to that level. 

 

 

Never say never, football changes so quickly in both directions. 

 

We just need to force a change of board.

[Qwerty]

Rodgers was let down by the board but we still had enough to stay up.  We could have ridden the storm and been OK again by now, if Rodgers hadn't fallen out with Cags and insisted on playing Amartey, and also Ward.

Rodgers was justifiably pissed off, but rather than knuckling down and getting on with it, he deliberately sabotaged the season. 

Relegation meant our financial problems got worse rather than better.

Rodgers could have prevented that, but he chose not to.