Next Manager

[Tommy G]

22 minutes ago, ithuriel said:

So you say probably, so you do not know and then you start doing pirate impressions 

Well nobody knows the ins and outs of his contract - but its highly likely the wait is due to PSR or a clause or both - as discussed to death here. Your solution is to ''have him around but not managing'' that's a significant expense to have around, probably £3-4m a year - just daft. Doing what exactly, chef or groundsman?

[ithuriel]

1 minute ago, Tommy G said:

Well nobody knows the ins and outs of his contract - but its highly likely the wait is due to PSR or a clause or both - as discussed to death here. Your solution is to ''have him around but not managing'' that's a significant expense to have around, probably £3-4m a year - just daft. Doing what exactly, chef or groundsman?

Not a solution at all, just a mooted idea that if we cant pay him off, have him doing something else but you continue to get irate over it, I'll just sit back and laugh at you 

[Lambert09]

 I think we are lumbered with this squad and won’t be able to make many moves at all.  I honestly can’t even see hermansen or bilal leaving at this stage unless we take a really low ball offer. 
 

Ath the very least  we need to get coady and faes out the door  but the problem we have is they’ve all shown they’re not good enough for the prem, and teams in the championship or Europe aren’t going to see value in them either. High wages and a dof who is hard to deal with and drags his heels with every deal. 

 

The fact there’s not even paper talk on most of them is pretty alarming 

Edited 11 June 2025 by Lambert09

[fox_up_north]

Could we hire someone as

"Leicester City Manager Ruud Van Nistelrooy"

Then when PSR look they see everything is perfectly normal

 

Top

Rudkin

Leicester City Manager Ruud Van Nistelrooy ("Neil Warnock" to his mates)

[RyCleary]

Could we not hire Dyche and just sack RVN 1st July?  Technically have two managers for a month. Surely one month of Dyche wage won’t put us over 

[ronnup]

Please not Dyche ffs

[bald reynard]

3 hours ago, Wymsey said:

Dyche and someone internal; but, as widely-speculated, the club are in a tricky situation - as paying off Ruud may have financial consequences, when the club is already struggling on that front as it is.

 

There appears to be no certainty by the higher-ups as to who's the best option.

 

2 hours ago, Outfox the Fox said:

Yep. The longer this drags on, it looks increasingly like it will be him (and it does sound like it will be 1 July before we can do anything), as the external candidates get fed up waiting, or get snapped up by someone else (eg Rohl to the Bundesliga). Barry-Murphy is there, under contract and a 'ready meal' - with all the connotations of a ready meal (quick to do, moderately tasty, not the healthiest meal, but OK and fills a hole!). He'd be here until we get hold of a better recipe to cook ourselves (mid way through next season?), but it could be a long time before we eat a Michelin Star Chef's meal again ...... ? years !

 

2 hours ago, AjcW said:

Called BBM as soon as he was hired. 

 

City Group

Possession Football

Easy to control

 

Perfect for KP

 

A few interesting articles (will need to run through paywall blockers)

 

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/2024/04/29/innovative-brian-barry-murphy-is-nurturing-manchester-citys-best-young-players-watch-what-he-does-next/

 

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5776122/2024/09/20/manchester-city-brian-barry-murphy-interview/

 

 

 

 

2 hours ago, Lesta2014 said:

I wonder if he is going to be the new manager, we are having planning meetings with him which can all be kept hush hush and then we announce ruud is gone on first July and we’ve already been planning and as such announce signings on July 1st? Or is that wishful thinking for us being actually organised? 

It sounds to me like BB-M is in pole position to get the job, come 1 July and his current boss is given the boot.

Could be worse - we save a bit of money, he knows the players and has a good record (with Man City) of bringing young players through. 

[King Claudio]

6 minutes ago, bald reynard said:

 

 

 

It sounds to me like BB-M is in pole position to get the job, come 1 July and his current boss is given the boot.

Could be worse - we save a bit of money, he knows the players and has a good record (with Man City) of bringing young players through. 

I disagree- we don't save money. 

 

We have to pay RVN off and probably give this guy a pay rise. 

 

Why wouldn't we just keep RVN on if we are paying him anyway? I don't believe this guy is going to contribute anything different that he wasn't already contributing. 

 

It's a team game and BBM has to take just as much responsibility for the poor results- Im not sure I understand why people are looking to ignore his part. 

[Ric Flair]

11 hours ago, Jon the Hat said:

No there isn't.  It does matter if we sack him today, agree to sack him but make the payment on the 1st of July, put him on gardening leave, appoint someone else and then let him go after July, or pay him his usual salary monthly until the end of his contract.  All of these result in an immediate provision for the full cost of his contract in the current financial year.  All the clever ways have been tried before and the accounting rules are specifically designed to overcome them.  ANY action which results in him leaving - even if only obvious after the fact, would result in the cost being in this year's books.

And if he were then to be kept then the reversal of the provision would hit 25/26 and reduce costs. 

 

Very much depends on the clauses in RvN's contract on what severance is due. Most sane clubs do not agree to having to pay off the remainder of managers contracts but we seem to do so. 

[LFox99]

Pete O'Rourke saying Martin turned us down not the other way around

christ

[LestaLad]

Yea, I’m fully on the Brian Barry Murphy train. Give it him and let’s get planning.

[STUHILL]

1 hour ago, LFox99 said:

Pete O'Rourke saying Martin turned us down not the other way around

christ

as ridiculous as that sounds, it is probably true. What a mess of a club we have become. 

[Craig]

1 hour ago, LFox99 said:

Pete O'Rourke saying Martin turned us down not the other way around

christ

Why wouldn't he?  

 

Rangers or Leicester in our current state... 

[STUHILL]

So people are keen on Brian Barry Murphy because there is barely any Managerial experience to pull him apart on? Apart from getting Rochdale relegated to League 2? Gotcha 

[Finnegan]

1 hour ago, LFox99 said:

Pete O'Rourke saying Martin turned us down not the other way around

christ

 

Why wouldn't he? Rangers is just managerial fluffing, can't really fail to win at least something and boost his profile. Get him a half decent job afterwards.

 

Leicester job would probably finish his career.

 

[Claudio Fannieri]

I wouldn’t be shocked in the slightest if it ends up being Carrick, available knows the division and plays a style akin to what Top likes, develops and promotes younger players and would cost zero compo. 

[ClaphamFox]

2 hours ago, LFox99 said:

Pete O'Rourke saying Martin turned us down not the other way around

christ

It might be true that Martin turned us down and it might not be true. But Pete O’Rourke calling it either way gives us precisely no indication of which. 

[Tuna]

Almost at the point that I really don't care anymore.

[nettle]

2 hours ago, LFox99 said:

Pete O'Rourke saying Martin turned us down not the other way around

christ

He probably realised no one wanted him here

[Sankey93]

BBM is favourite to take over Plymouth which is good news cuz Jesus Christ surely we don’t want him 😂

[Iwebema]

Take it for what its worth, but I know someone connected to Plymouth and they told me that BBM had essentially told Plymouth hes waiting to hear on something else.

 

Its only since Wymsey posted hes heard its Dyche or someone internal that I'd even considered we would be the something else.

 

And if that is true then we are back in the same circle as before, how can the choice be between 2 complete polar opposites on the football spectrum.

 

Its got vibes of Rudkin wanting his mate Dyche, similar to the Cooper appointment and Top wanting the man city esq football appointment. You would think that alone would be a big red flag for an Owner to notice that you are completely unaligned with the person advising you on football decisions....

[Sankey93]

6 minutes ago, Iwebema said:

Take it for what its worth, but I know someone connected to Plymouth and they told me that BBM had essentially told Plymouth hes waiting to hear on something else.

 

Its only since Wymsey posted hes heard its Dyche or someone internal that I'd even considered we would be the something else.

 

And if that is true then we are back in the same circle as before, how can the choice be between 2 complete polar opposites on the football spectrum.

 

Its got vibes of Rudkin wanting his mate Dyche, similar to the Cooper appointment and Top wanting the man city esq football appointment. You would think that alone would be a big red flag for an Owner to notice that you are completely unaligned with the person advising you on football decisions....

Hopefully it’s the Cardiff job! Surely we won’t go for dyche either I just don’t understand this club anymore we are a total mess.

[Leicesterpool]

4 hours ago, RyCleary said:

Could we not hire Dyche and just sack RVN 1st July?  Technically have two managers for a month. Surely one month of Dyche wage won’t put us over 

May have already been agreed who knows... the removal van is booked for 1st July.

[AyewJoking]

1 hour ago, Leicesterpool said:

May have already been agreed who knows... the removal van is booked for 1st July.

couldnt afford one so Top had to use an old horse box instead

 

 

[LcFc_Smiv]

7 hours ago, ClaphamFox said:

It might be true that Martin turned us down and it might not be true. But Pete O’Rourke calling it either way gives us precisely no indication of which. 

It is in line with what I heard, that essentially the talks took place a few weeks before the end of the season. News broke around points deduction, just after journalists start saying it's Martin. We go very quiet, in the end Martin gets fed up of waiting and progresses with Rangers. This supposedly being the second time we have held talks then delayed, the first being pre Enzo, where Martin took the Southampton job because they came in and offered him guarantees while we were stalling.

 

The individual who told me this I know has some insight into Martins side, although up until a week before he went Rangers he said he was pretty much done here and a new DoF was part of the agreement. Whatever the case everything points to us being a mess which we all largely knew.