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The idea of bringing Lascelles on has some sense to it, he is supposed to bring some leadership, some physicality (we lack this so much) and it should be enough to see the game out from that position. 

The lack of option of a replacement for Winks/Skipp was massive for me. 

 

Subs could have been better yet, but I'm on the back of the players rather than King. They should have enough fight about them to see that through, regardless of the subs. 

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32 minutes ago, SafewayFox said:

Keeping Thomas on the pitch when 1) out of his depth and 2) clearly blowing are down to Kingy.

Agreed.

 

Love kingy and find it hard to give him any blame, but leaving Thomas on and bringing on Ayew when you need some rhythm and energy is criminal. 

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10 minutes ago, moore_94 said:

Almost like he is an inexperienced young coach thrown into a job he doesn’t want and isn’t ready for

 

Anyone blaming King is a muppet

I don’t like the situation and feel for Kingy, but anyone can see that doing the same thing as that last three managers ain’t going to work. None on here would play Ayew or Thomas but Andy King still does. Whether it wants the job or no he is still picking the same t*ats each game. Grow a pair and just try something different, cos just doing the same as before  is just throwing in the towel.

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8 minutes ago, Bluebeemer said:

I don’t like the situation and feel for Kingy, but anyone can see that doing the same thing as that last three managers ain’t going to work. None on here would play Ayew or Thomas but Andy King still does. Whether it wants the job or no he is still picking the same t*ats each game. Grow a pair and just try something different, cos just doing the same as before  is just throwing in the towel.

But he literally isn’t a manager and has absolutely no experience as one, and hardly any coaching experience

 

Why are people expecting him to make sweeping personnel, tactical and style changes?

 

There is literally no one around him to help with any of that side of the game

 

It isn’t as simple as “play in a 442 lads and crack on”

 

He is obviously going to shit the bed when something goes wrong and likely to overreact / over correct

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In his post match interview King did mention the failure to stop the cross for their first.  Frankly Thomas never stops a cross.  3 years ago i though he was a great hope for the future - it has not worked out.

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47 minutes ago, SafewayFox said:

Kingy is far from our biggest problem BUT an experienced and pro-active manager does not throw that lead away.

 

He might have not said to be so passive in the second half but his subs and changes gave all the momentum to Southampton.

You blaming King for throwing that lead away? Southampton had the momentum as soon as the second half started, surely. Have to disagree, that capitulation is 💯 on the players.

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2 hours ago, damolcfc said:

The coaching staff Definitely got that wrong.

 

Yep, I'm giving kingy the benefit of the doubt and blaming his more experienced assistant Saddler, repeating Rodgers tactics of sitting back!

 

Whilst it is possible to sit back and kill off a game we never seem able to, and with the fragility and passivity of the squad currently it was doomed!

 

And even if they didn't tell them to sit back, the substitutions betrayed them.

 

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5 minutes ago, moore_94 said:

But he literally isn’t a manager and has absolutely no experience as one, and hardly any coaching experience

 

Why are people expecting him to make sweeping personnel, tactical and style changes?

 

There is literally no one around him to help with any of that side of the game

 

It isn’t as simple as “play in a 442 lads and crack on”

 

He is obviously going to shit the bed when something goes wrong and likely to overreact / over correct


Whilst I agree to some extent, and certainly in no way blame Kingy, he has been a pro footballer for 20 odd years… he knows what managers say and do in the changing room, at training and during matches. He has experienced it, even if he hasn’t experienced giving it. 
 

If the average fan can see Thomas (who I actually thought was excellent first half) is struggling then do something to support him or swap him / the winger in front of him / both. 

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13 minutes ago, 5waller5 said:


Whilst I agree to some extent, and certainly in no way blame Kingy, he has been a pro footballer for 20 odd years… he knows what managers say and do in the changing room, at training and during matches. He has experienced it, even if he hasn’t experienced giving it. 
 

If the average fan can see Thomas (who I actually thought was excellent first half) is struggling then do something to support him or swap him / the winger in front of him / both. 

Rooney was one of the best players ever in the Prem and is an absolutely dog sh!t manager

 

Experience as a player can count for very little as a manager

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16 minutes ago, l444ry said:

You blaming King for throwing that lead away? Southampton had the momentum as soon as the second half started, surely. Have to disagree, that capitulation is 💯 on the players.

I’m saying that he was part of the problem.

 

You cannot absolve King from the second half performance.

 

The players are spineless dossers but they weren’t helped by the changes.

 

If VK is fit enough to make the bench, then him coming on to shore up the left hand side was what the game was calling out for.

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I think it's half and half. King has been thrust into an absolutely dire situation. I doubt the players really "respect" him as such. He's also got next to no experience of this but the club have just seen Cheap Football Coach Man. 

 

The flip side is what he does need to do is keep the players focused and prepared for the inevitable backlash. It's not like they went in 1-0 up with a Southampton who might play it cagey. They had absolutely nothing to lose. 

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Second half we made the classic mistake of retreating and defending what we have.

Daka who played excellent in the fisrt half was missing in action for the second half.

Continueously coming back into our half which allowed them to push forward and pick there passes.

We've seen it before, Whether it was King or the players it's hard to know but it was ashame because they actully tried

last night and had an excellent first half.

I thought we looked fitter and sharper half but we fell into our old ways second half and paid the price.

Confidence is low and the only way to improve that is keep going. Change will come the additions have helped.

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c70kz2pyqgro

 

Leicester City's interim boss Andy King told branded the Foxes capitulation against Southampton as "completely unacceptable" in his post-match interview with BBC Radio Leicester.

The East Midlands club were three goals up at half-time and leading 3-1 until the 81st minute, only to lose 4-3 in a sensational late collapse at the King Power Stadium.

"I want to start by apologising for that last half an hour. It was completely unacceptable," King said.

"Obviously, the feeling I have at the moment is sheer anger towards the performance. It will take a bit of time to process, I have to watch it back, see what happened but, yeah, passive and not good enough.

"Probably a lack of character, a lack of leadership, stuff we have said about before and it has been almost a pattern throughout the season where you do some good bits in good spells and then we almost have a spell of the game where we just go under.

"Like I say, I'm angry at the moment so I don't want to speak out of turn. I need to watch it back, I need to properly analyse it, I need a bit of time to reflect on it. Like I said, I fully apologise for it but that's all I'm sat with at the moment.

"You've seen today, probably, our season in a nutshell. You've seen some brilliant football, some goals, some really good stuff and then some stuff which is unacceptable and we have seen both sides of that today.

"Come out of another loss, some good stuff, but second half, last half an hour, from my point of view, like I keep saying, apologies. Completely unacceptable."

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Made some odd changes but our fitness issue is huge. We put so much into the first half that the second was probably too much for them. Ayew coming on just drained the crowd.

 

He was a one game coach at best. Even a win last night wouldn't change it.

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7 hours ago, moore_94 said:

Almost like he is an inexperienced young coach thrown into a job he doesn’t want and isn’t ready for

 

Anyone blaming King is a muppet

Your letting sentiment over rule sense.

 

You dont need any coaching badges to identify some of our most significant weak areas...

 

I also can't quite understand how you can question anyone for blaming King for last night. 

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7 hours ago, RowlattsFox said:

The idea of bringing Lascelles on has some sense to it, he is supposed to bring some leadership, some physicality (we lack this so much) and it should be enough to see the game out from that position. 

The lack of option of a replacement for Winks/Skipp was massive for me. 

 

Subs could have been better yet, but I'm on the back of the players rather than King. They should have enough fight about them to see that through, regardless of the subs. 

He would’ve been better sitting in front to help Skipp mop up so he didn’t have to keep chasing around. The problem is they stop pressing, sit back allowing them to walk through midfield and to the wings, allow the cross and hope the cbs can clear it. 

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28 minutes ago, adejo92 said:

Your letting sentiment over rule sense.

 

You dont need any coaching badges to identify some of our most significant weak areas...

 

I also can't quite understand how you can question anyone for blaming King for last night. 

If Vk isn’t up to speed yet the only option for Thomas would be aluko. Many of us would welcome that but playing devils advocate, the last time aluko was thrown in against Southampton he got sent off. Many of us said it was unfair to throw him in for that game as they do have very tricky wingers. 
 

It’s never as simple as it appears and maybe king was simply waiting for the cup game to get aluko up to speed. Thomas has to go; we all know that but we are limited 

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Its pretty clear to me that we can never ever try to sit back and defend a lead because we simply can not defend. We are best on the front foot and pressing high but you have to be very fit to do that for 90 minutes, which we aren't. 

 

Southampton are one of the better teams in the division, we need to play like we did in the first half against the crap teams. To be honest im not sure if its a combination of Southampton being crap first half or if we were good, or a bit of both, its a shame because I thought the first half was a lot better than anything I have seen for a while, the 2nd the absolute worst! 

 

King has been pretty vocal on saying he doesn't want the job, he probably hoped it would be over by now. I still feel there is a bit of progress from the absolute 90 minutes of sideways/backwards no shot dross served up under Marti. Under him we wouldn't have had 7 shots in the first half ever. 

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Doesn't seem to be altering much from a tactical point of view, still Marti's formation, keep seeing our full backs invert and popping up in midfield all the time, still not a massive fan of it. Still not winning games. Seems to have got Winks interested again but that's not really helping. 

 

I mean I would normally say the sooner we get a good full time replacement in the better but we all know they'll appoint another sub par hopeless fool who  doesn't quite grasp how much of a shit show they'll be walking into and the process starts to repeat again.

 

Hope I'm wrong and they pull one of those 1 in 10 decisions they actually get right because we are in it now. Not that its doing anything but delaying the inevitable while they are still here but there we are. 

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I feel sorry for him. Yes, he’s part of the blame for yesterday, of course and made some daft choices. But you can at least feel his rage at the players for throwing it away so spectacularly. At least it’s not Marti’s “we need to stick together, we go again” nonsense. I’m glad to see he cares because nobody else at the entire club seems to. 
 

Crucially - HE DOESNT WANT THE JOB. He is not qualified to do it and is nowhere near ready for it. He’s not even angling for it. You have the feeling it’s actually ruining his life right now. The real blame is the idiots at our club who seem to have no clue who to appoint as manager as we slide down the table. 
 

I have a feeling that they deliberately put a club legend in place so they could stall for a bit, protecting the fact that they don’t know what they’re doing and letting someone popular take the heat. Except it’s not working. We know who is really to blame for this and that’s where our efforts for change should go towards. Arguing over King’s abilities is exactly what they want. 

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9 hours ago, SafewayFox said:

I’m saying that he was part of the problem.

 

You cannot absolve King from the second half performance.

 

The players are spineless dossers but they weren’t helped by the changes.

 

If VK is fit enough to make the bench, then him coming on to shore up the left hand side was what the game was calling out for.

He’s as much of a fanny as Thomas is

 

 

The subs of Musaka and Daka are what did for us. 

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On 11/02/2026 at 08:58, l444ry said:

You blaming King for throwing that lead away? Southampton had the momentum as soon as the second half started, surely. Have to disagree, that capitulation is 💯 on the players.

 

Oh there's a decent proportion of blame going his way, I mean even by your simple logic he is partly responsible for just deciding which 11 players were on the pitch at any point during that game and which ones capitulated. 

 

But there's loads of things he did wrong beyond that, the ethos was to defend the lead without attempting to at least give them something to think about at the other end, you can kill of large portions of any game by doing that and trying to hit areas with a pacy outlet and keep the ball in the corner, his changes were all reactionary to the ball hitting the back of our net and not considered, 2 and 3 minutes after in both cases, this isn't even non league level of panicking it's Sunday league management, and we did not make a single change in injury time which which is normally a great way to knock enough minutes off, interrupt a bit of momentum and to get out with a point and had he done that we may well have done that.....

 

Don't get me wrong the players should have worked with all of this and got something out of the game and some of the goals are hilariously bad in terms of individual errors but you cannot absolve him of any blame

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