Event Horizon

[Collymore]

Anyone else feeling the death Leicester City is happening right now in real time over these weeks/months and there is no return now and it's moved into a new terminal phase?

 

It's different to anything in the past - a bit lke Event Horizon for you space geeks! 

 

Uncharted times....... A feeling...... Hard to describe......

 

All jokes with other fans out of the window.

 

People that know you well shocked that you're falling out of love with club at this extreme level. 

[Clogger_]

There's next-to-nothing left to support

[jayfox26]

Losing in football is part of the game. 

 

Relegation, especially for teams like ours, is part of the game (not necessarily to the third tier) 

 

The genuine fear that our club could be extinct in the next 6-12 months is utterly horrifying.

 

The fact that many of our fans seem happy to watch the club burn under Tops ownership is unfathomable. 

 

There is genuinely nothing to like about this club right now. 

 

The owner

The board

The players 

Many of the fans 

 

All complicit in the absolute destruction of the club so many of us love.

 

Sad.  

[when_you're_smiling]

I think I felt like that last time we went down to League One. I genuinely thought it was the end of the world when we lost that record of never having been out the top two divisions.

 

This time, I’m not sure I care all that much. 
 

I’m not sure if that’s a case of been there, done that, or I am fed up of ‘modern football’ as a whole. 

[Jon the Hat]

its unclear how the system is supposed to work in our case. 

 

If we go down and incur further huge losses, our owners continue to fund those losses, we fail PSR again by a huge margin and are punished with more points deductions, which send us down again.... PSR then literally kills the club which has owners willing and able to fund it fully. 

 

Its mental, and I don't see how it can be legal.  Rules which force a death spiral of a business and club.

Edited 7 March by Jon the Hat

[STUHILL]

I have become pretty detached and numb to it all, but I have been falling out of love with football in general over the last few years anyway. 

 

Until we get new owners, I don't think I will find that same connection again, but I still care what happens to us. 

 

For now, I just want us to survive as a club, and hope that some point in the future (might be many years...) we will have had a complete reset from top to bottom. 

[Vindaloo FOX]

Dead club, 

[Sky Blues]

3 hours ago, Jon the Hat said:

its unclear how the system is supposed to work in our case. 

 

If we go down and incur further huge losses, our owners continue to fund those losses, we fail PSR again by a huge margin and are punished with more points deductions, which send us down again.... PSR then literally kills the club which has owners willing and able to fund it fully. 

 

Its mental, and I don't see how it can be legal.  Rules which force a death spiral of a business and club.

The rules are designed to stop owners doing what yours have. The problem is that they didn't keep to the rules and used technicalities to get away with it, just kicking the can down the road but making it seem like a win when getting away with it temporarily. 

[Katy]

6 hours ago, Collymore said:

Anyone else feeling the death Leicester City is happening right now in real time over these weeks/months and there is no return now and it's moved into a new terminal phase?

 

It's different to anything in the past - a bit lke Event Horizon for you space geeks! 

 

Uncharted times....... A feeling...... Hard to describe......

 

All jokes with other fans out of the window.

 

People that know you well shocked that you're falling out of love with club at this extreme level. 

Yep. This is exactly how I feel too. It’s been a slow, painful (almost unnoticeable to some) death. 
 

Where’s JME with his ‘CLUB IS DEAD’ meme? 

[Jazzy_Jeff]

Numb is the word. I don’t get angry at bad results or show joy at good ones. Football as a spectacle is getting progressively worse. I don’t enjoy watching it anymore.

 

Regardless of what league we’re in next season or in futures ones my interest is waning. 
 

It isnt just football though, as a society we’ve taken the fun out of most things. The majority of sports have unnecessary rules or people moaning about something.

[fox_favourite]

Relegation will be disastrous for the club. I genuinely think we'll be on the brink of extinction within 12 months, or administration at best. That will make us drop to League 2 or on the verge of league 2 before we go bust. 

 

Sad watching it all unfold. Anyone wanting our club relegated because "it'll force change" is not looking at the bigger picture. 

 

This will be talked about for years, from Premier League champions to bust in 10 years. 

Edited 7 March by fox_favourite

[MattFox]

And a large percentage of our fanbase clap like seals whilst the ship goes down 

[Freddy]

7 hours ago, jayfox26 said:

Losing in football is part of the game. 

 

Relegation, especially for teams like ours, is part of the game (not necessarily to the third tier) 

 

The genuine fear that our club could be extinct in the next 6-12 months is utterly horrifying.

 

The fact that many of our fans seem happy to watch the club burn under Tops ownership is unfathomable. 

 

There is genuinely nothing to like about this club right now. 

 

The owner

The board

The players 

Many of the fans 

 

All complicit in the absolute destruction of the club so many of us love.

 

Sad.  

It is sad. But its worth mentioning again that the clappy fans are not complicit in the turmoil backstage, all we see is the show. Not a single one is happy with Top. Not a single fan walked away after watching Norwich,  thinking thay our hierarchy is anything less than culpable for our current situation. 

I sat there last Saturday watching our fans clap and ok pass, Winks swiching it across the pitch, we're that starved of excitement. And it wasn't even that good a pass really. 

[Trav Le Bleu]

5 hours ago, Jon the Hat said:

its unclear how the system is supposed to work in our case. 

 

If we go down and incur further huge losses, our owners continue to fund those losses, we fail PSR again by a huge margin and are punished with more points deductions, which send us down again.... PSR then literally kills the club which has owners willing and able to fund it fully. 

 

Its mental, and I don't see how it can be legal.  Rules which force a death spiral of a business and club.

I agree. The very thing that's supposed to protect a club is killing it.

 

Yes, we are badly run, but incompetently rather than maliciously. There's been many clubs run incompetently before that haven't been punished and of course clubs that have outright cheated and not been punished.

 

As much as fans are protesting against KP, we should be protesting against the EPL/EFL débâcle.

 

For what it's worth, I can't see Aiyawatt abandoning us willingly so long as the main KP company can keep going.

[RumbleFox]

Hell is only a word. The reality is much, much worse.

[jayfox26]

8 minutes ago, Freddy said:

It is sad. But its worth mentioning again that the clappy fans are not complicit in the turmoil backstage, all we see is the show. Not a single one is happy with Top. Not a single fan walked away after watching Norwich,  thinking thay our hierarchy is anything less than culpable for our current situation. 

I sat there last Saturday watching our fans clap and ok pass, Winks swiching it across the pitch, we're that starved of excitement. And it wasn't even that good a pass really. 

Some are complicit by being passive and not doing anything to try and force Top out. Everybody should be joining in the protests. And your comment about "not a single fan is happy with Top" is sadly untrue. There are many that still support him and some that have physically/verbally attacked other fans who have tried to show their frustrations within the stadium. 

[fazzyfox]

2 minutes ago, jayfox26 said:

Some are complicit by being passive and not doing anything to try and force Top out. Everybody should be joining in the protests. And your comment about "not a single fan is happy with Top" is sadly untrue. There are many that still support him and some that have physically/verbally attacked other fans who have tried to show their frustrations within the stadium. 

Ageee, the moment any KP out / sack the board songs start a number of people around me shout back “shut up”, “Who are going to get”,  “next ones could be worse”, “who’s going to want us” etc often accompanied by expletives. it nearly lead to a blue on blue ruck away to Norwich and on other occasions has.

Let  them make their counter point and have their say but there’s no denial that they do exist in numbers.”Be careful what you wish for” is an established argument but we’re talking about a guy who has just completed a 3 year assessment of the club and concluded that Rudkin deserves a promotion  

[LichesterRedSoxSoccerBall]

I'm a bit twisted in that I know financially the risk of relegation would have but I genuinely hate the way our club is managed and those above along with some heartless players that I want us in league on to clear out and sell up. There is zero right now worth backing 

[STEVIE B]

11 hours ago, Clogger_ said:

There's next-to-nothing left to support

I think you've nailed it. 

'Through thick & thin', is often brought up, but there isn't even any 'thin' left to grab hold of.

What an absolute mess. 

Edited 7 March by STEVIE B

[Freddy]

15 minutes ago, jayfox26 said:

Some are complicit by being passive and not doing anything to try and force Top out. Everybody should be joining in the protests. And your comment about "not a single fan is happy with Top" is sadly untrue. There are many that still support him and some that have physically/verbally attacked other fans who have tried to show their frustrations within the stadium. 

That's the point though. Some fans do not agree with a lot of protesting but even they do not love Top. They are not blind and you can see. They feel as disenchanted but disagree that it's possible to force out a Top, that is unwilling to wake up. Top will stay in charge because he can. Top my blow everything. Top will not be the first person to do this, or the last. 

[when_you're_smiling]

Thought I’d have a look at the forum from back in 2008 and the last time being relegated to League One. Quite funny seeing ‘that’ Sheff Weds match thread being only five pages long.

 

We’d been circling the drain for a few seasons though and obviously hadn’t seen the riches we have done since. Plenty of hate for Mandaric/Holloway.

 

No mention of PSR of course or much financially I could see, even though the wage to turnover ratio was 103 per cent that season and the one before. People didn’t care so much about that before PSR.

 

 

 

 

[5waller5]

2 hours ago, Sky Blues said:

The rules are designed to stop owners doing what yours have. The problem is that they didn't keep to the rules and used technicalities to get away with it, just kicking the can down the road but making it seem like a win when getting away with it temporarily. 

Do you attend funerals and say “he shouldn’t have driven so fast”? 
 

Just F off to Cov 

[FoxFossil]

Uncomfortably Numb.

[5waller5]

5 minutes ago, when_you're_smiling said:

Thought I’d have a look at the forum from back in 2008 and the last time being relegated to League One. Quite funny seeing ‘that’ Sheff Weds match thread being only five pages long.

 

We’d been circling the drain for a few seasons though and obviously hadn’t seen the riches we have done since. Plenty of hate for Mandaric/Holloway.

 

No mention of PSR of course or much financially I could see, even though the wage to turnover ratio was 103 per cent that season and the one before. People didn’t care so much about that before PSR.

 

 

 

 

Reading those threads bought back some memories of really good posters on FT that you no longer see. 
 

Makes you wonder what happened to the likes of Thracian

[MC Prussian]

Emotionally, I'm pretty much indifferent. Many of us have seen this before, so this is neither new nor shocking (any more).

Football on the whole has lost a lot of attraction to me in general. I can't relate as much as I did a couple of years back. Maybe the pandemic had an influence, maybe it's the lack of identification figures or actual talents (the ZIdanes, Del Pieros, the Ronaldos, the Beckhams), the monetization aspect (too much money thrown around for mediocre quality), rising ticket prices (declining value for money), the philosophy of controlling or trying to control the audience, the influx of Social Media (hollow phrases, players presenting themselves in a favourable light). It all comes together.

 

What you could argue is how we got here, seeing the heights we reached only ten years ago, and the money involved. Way to celebrate an anniversary, btw.

 

As opposed to 2008, when there was a four-year downfall window, the present demise is drawn out over a decade, so could call it a slow, painful death.

But seeing that, there have been so many opportunities to course-correct, and it is testament to our owner's and the club management's incompetence that they've failed to stop the slump.

 

We've had the chance to build upon the Premier League title, but appointed the wrong managers for about 80 percent of the time, couldn't stop the decline, failed to replace the title-winning team with able successors, and have also shown no nous in picking a respectable shirt sponsor.

The club has been stripped of it best assets – still we are hugely in debt.

It doesn't seem to me as if the club have ever been fan-friendly in recent years, listened to the fans or actually cared about the fans, the life and blood of their organisation.

 

Fans are checking out, and deservedly so.

 

Regardless of whether by some miracle we do manage to stay in the Championship or we actually get relegated, one thing is clear: It can't go on like this.

We need a tabula rasa.

We need club representatives that actually care for the club, and more local connections.

 

Edited 7 March by MC Prussian