Popular Post Guppys Love Child Posted 18 hours ago Popular Post Posted 18 hours ago 20 hours ago, Ric Flair said: Gave me the willies the first time I ever heard him talk about his footballing philosophy and almost every interview i've heard from him since has left me a mix of anger and astonishment. It's his delusion and borderline superiority and arrogance that I just cannot turn a blind eye too. Go and listen to his post match comments in the home and away games we absolutely destroyed his Southampton side under Enzo if you're in danger of getting all misty eyed. It was staggering. The scary thing is, i've felt that from him when i've had absolutely no skin in the game as he's been at other clubs and I should have found it funny if anything like I do when i've heard the likes of Nathan Jones and Liam Rosenior but I just knew he'd end up here. I've never been sure of anything in my life. I wish him no ill, I really hope i'm wrong about him and it's been a case of mistaken identity but people can fcuk off trying to patronise me that we can't form these opinions on someone. It's a basic human trait that might be wrong, might be right. Does he deserve a chance? Not for me he doesn't but what choice have we got now? What I cannot get my head around is his footballing philosophy has had quite appalling success and yet his belief remains undeterred. He wasn't successful at Southampton, it was nothing more than par for the course and was then an abomination in the Prem. He did OK at Swansea but MK Dons his team instantly improved when he left and Rangers goes down as one of the worst managerial stints in the modern era. What body of work there can give grounds to him being considered a dynamic and successful manager or that his foorballing IQ is unequivocally the way to go. He'll never land a job with the environment or resources in order to support such ideology so it's pointless. His best solution is to use the experience he has in the game to get the best out of the opportunities he does still land and see if that fairs better. He recruits pretty well, gives young players a chance and can build a bit of a unity if players buy in to his authority so harness that with tactics that are not reckless and ill suited. My phone will go out the window an'all when Gary Lineker lauds this a major coup. A dark day for this football club, which is actually an achievement in itself given the bar they've set in recent years. I'll be even further on the periphery now to save my own sanity. All the best for those who can still support it. Totally agree (offer still there to join my LCFC sabbatical untill sacked Ric, 😁) It not just his football philosophy , crap managerial record. and the on pitch bordem we will be subjected too that I dislike, but it him also. The post match delusional rambling. God, he loves the sound of his own voice. He's an arrogant, blame shifting, stab his grandmother in the back to prove a point even if wrong, narcissistic fraud. He will turn on us in a heartbeat when the chips are down. In affect he a diluted Rodger's.. and like that odious little cretin who I detest the most in football ever (yes more than Peter Taylor) they both act and exude qualities and mannerisms that find repulsive in humans. We had to suffer the sh1t under Rodgers, I personally don't want to suffer it again under this tw@t. 5 1
nnfox Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago 2 minutes ago, les-tah said: Heres a conspiracy theory for you, weve been arse licking Enzo for so long to maintain a good relationship and hes promised us to be a feeder club aslong as we carry on his style of play so thats why they went for russel martin and maximum man city loans a year Except that playing for Leicester City in League One under Russell Martin with the players we have will, in now way whatsoever, prepare anyone for playing for Man City in the Premier League and Champions League under Enzo with the players they have.
Popular Post lanefox Posted 17 hours ago Popular Post Posted 17 hours ago 9 hours ago, Guy said: I think his appointment smacks of Claude Puel's in 2017 a bit! Puel is misunderstood by the majority of our fanbase 15
Chelmofox Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago 2 minutes ago, les-tah said: Heres a conspiracy theory for you, weve been arse licking Enzo for so long to maintain a good relationship and hes promised us to be a feeder club aslong as we carry on his style of play so thats why they went for russel martin and maximum man city loans a year Enzo will put 100% into his new job. He will not give a sh1te about us and rightly so. Loans will come our way if they benefit Man City, and only if. My conspiracy theory is that our arse licking of Man City meant that we had to guarantee Mukasa game time. 1
Popular Post CL Fox Posted 17 hours ago Popular Post Posted 17 hours ago 13 minutes ago, lanefox said: Puel is misunderstood by the majority of our fanbase Hes not. He was shite. And yet another Southampton reject. 7 3
winteriscoming Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago 4 minutes ago, CL Fox said: Hes not. He was shite. And yet another Southampton reject. No he wasn’t. He’ll never be one of our greatest managers but also he’s not one of our worst. He’s somewhere in the middle. 1
Popular Post AKCJ Posted 17 hours ago Popular Post Posted 17 hours ago 4 minutes ago, lanefox said: Puel is misunderstood by the majority of our fanbase A lot of people like to make out that Puel was brilliant for us. The reality is that we just had a summer where our incoming transfers were very good. Football under him was miserable and those players only reached their potential after he left. 13
CL Fox Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago 10 minutes ago, winteriscoming said: No he wasn’t. He’ll never be one of our greatest managers but also he’s not one of our worst. He’s somewhere in the middle. Rodgers came in and took that team to 8th - when he arrived we were in free fall and about 14/15th. The team he had - had Maguire, Chilwell and Vardy - all in the England squad, and Maddison, Ndidi, Evans, Schmeichel - he even had Mahrez for a time. For the level of talent the output was dire. 2
ceebeefox Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago 33 minutes ago, lanefox said: Puel is misunderstood by the majority of our fanbase Good eye for a player, built a good side but couldn’t get a tune out of ‘em. Too scared of losing. 1
Ric Flair Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago 3 minutes ago, CL Fox said: Rodgers came in and took that team to 8th - when he arrived we were in free fall and about 14/15th. The team he had - had Maguire, Chilwell and Vardy - all in the England squad, and Maddison, Ndidi, Evans, Schmeichel - he even had Mahrez for a time. For the level of talent the output was dire. 100% Puel's first 3-4 months were promising and then we ended that 2017/18 appallingly and it was under performance from there on in bar the odd decent scalp against the elite. Rodgers for all his faults, teased out the quality in this squad immediately as we were top 6 form from the moment he joined us until the end of 2020/21 season spanning 2 and a bit seasons where arguably his signings were worse the longer he was here. 4
lcfc sheff Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago 46 minutes ago, les-tah said: Heres a conspiracy theory for you, weve been arse licking Enzo for so long to maintain a good relationship and hes promised us to be a feeder club aslong as we carry on his style of play so thats why they went for russel martin and maximum man city loans a year I did find it odd him coming to the game, I do wonder if we’ve been asking him for advice
FrankieADZ Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago 18 minutes ago, AKCJ said: A lot of people like to make out that Puel was brilliant for us. The reality is that we just had a summer where our incoming transfers were very good. Football under him was miserable and those players only reached their potential after he left. dont get me wrong, he wasnt great but he wasnt brilliant for us either, like a middle of the road manager,
Bablemikey Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago If he wins games then he can talk as much shit as he wants. But I have to smile at those warnings we are being given about conceding soft goals from playing out from the back, as if we haven’t been doing precisely that for the last two seasons anyway.
RumbleFox Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago (edited) 22 hours ago, Ric Flair said: Gave me the willies the first time I ever heard him talk about his footballing philosophy and almost every interview i've heard from him since has left me a mix of anger and astonishment. It's his delusion and borderline superiority and arrogance that I just cannot turn a blind eye too. Go and listen to his post match comments in the home and away games we absolutely destroyed his Southampton side under Enzo if you're in danger of getting all misty eyed. It was staggering. The scary thing is, i've felt that from him when i've had absolutely no skin in the game as he's been at other clubs and I should have found it funny if anything like I do when i've heard the likes of Nathan Jones and Liam Rosenior but I just knew he'd end up here. I've never been sure of anything in my life. I wish him no ill, I really hope i'm wrong about him and it's been a case of mistaken identity but people can fcuk off trying to patronise me that we can't form these opinions on someone. It's a basic human trait that might be wrong, might be right. Does he deserve a chance? Not for me he doesn't but what choice have we got now? What I cannot get my head around is his footballing philosophy has had quite appalling success and yet his belief remains undeterred. He wasn't successful at Southampton, it was nothing more than par for the course and was then an abomination in the Prem. He did OK at Swansea but MK Dons his team instantly improved when he left and Rangers goes down as one of the worst managerial stints in the modern era. What body of work there can give grounds to him being considered a dynamic and successful manager or that his foorballing IQ is unequivocally the way to go. He'll never land a job with the environment or resources in order to support such ideology so it's pointless. His best solution is to use the experience he has in the game to get the best out of the opportunities he does still land and see if that fairs better. He recruits pretty well, gives young players a chance and can build a bit of a unity if players buy in to his authority so harness that with tactics that are not reckless and ill suited. My phone will go out the window an'all when Gary Lineker lauds this a major coup. A dark day for this football club, which is actually an achievement in itself given the bar they've set in recent years. I'll be even further on the periphery now to save my own sanity. All the best for those who can still support it. 100% agree. Even if we take everything else way (the Brentness, the annoying face, the inability to change, etc). If all we do is take the man out of the equation and look purely at the numbers, he has done nothing to deserve the right to manage our club, nor any other with aspirations of being in the premier league one day. It’s just rewarding failure at this point. Edited 16 hours ago by RumbleFox
Popular Post RedSoxUK Posted 16 hours ago Popular Post Posted 16 hours ago @Ric Flair's sources were are reliable as his scout report on Tete then? 9
Finnegan Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 22 hours ago, Ric Flair said: Gave me the willies the first time I ever heard him talk about his footballing philosophy and almost every interview i've heard from him since has left me a mix of anger and astonishment. It's his delusion and borderline superiority and arrogance that I just cannot turn a blind eye too. Go and listen to his post match comments in the home and away games we absolutely destroyed his Southampton side under Enzo if you're in danger of getting all misty eyed. It was staggering. The scary thing is, i've felt that from him when i've had absolutely no skin in the game as he's been at other clubs and I should have found it funny if anything like I do when i've heard the likes of Nathan Jones and Liam Rosenior but I just knew he'd end up here. I've never been sure of anything in my life. I wish him no ill, I really hope i'm wrong about him and it's been a case of mistaken identity but people can fcuk off trying to patronise me that we can't form these opinions on someone. It's a basic human trait that might be wrong, might be right. Does he deserve a chance? Not for me he doesn't but what choice have we got now? What I cannot get my head around is his footballing philosophy has had quite appalling success and yet his belief remains undeterred. He wasn't successful at Southampton, it was nothing more than par for the course and was then an abomination in the Prem. He did OK at Swansea but MK Dons his team instantly improved when he left and Rangers goes down as one of the worst managerial stints in the modern era. What body of work there can give grounds to him being considered a dynamic and successful manager or that his foorballing IQ is unequivocally the way to go. He'll never land a job with the environment or resources in order to support such ideology so it's pointless. His best solution is to use the experience he has in the game to get the best out of the opportunities he does still land and see if that fairs better. He recruits pretty well, gives young players a chance and can build a bit of a unity if players buy in to his authority so harness that with tactics that are not reckless and ill suited. My phone will go out the window an'all when Gary Lineker lauds this a major coup. A dark day for this football club, which is actually an achievement in itself given the bar they've set in recent years. I'll be even further on the periphery now to save my own sanity. All the best for those who can still support it. The word is hubris. He's just the second coming of Brendan Rodgers which is horrifying when you consider the damage he left behind him. 4
Foxin_Mad Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago Sadly it doesn't get better until these idiots leave. So I suppose if its a complete failure it will speed that process up. 1
dayday Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 1 hour ago, lanefox said: Puel is misunderstood by the majority of our fanbase Should have been made a scout
Lambert09 Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago (edited) I think the problem I have is that the best case scenario is that we’re relatively successful on the pitch but bored out of our minds for the next 3 years with some humiliating results along the way. We could be having a pretty good season results wise but then you get forest in the cup and lose 6-0 because of the ‘philosophy’. It all just feels a bit predictable and even if he does okay I just don’t think the fans will buy in and we really needed something to buy in to, with so many on the brink of giving up on the club Edited 16 hours ago by Lambert09 2
volpeazzurro Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 1 hour ago, Guppys Love Child said: Totally agree (offer still there to join my LCFC sabbatical untill sacked Ric, 😁) It not just his football philosophy , crap managerial record. and the on pitch bordem we will be subjected too that I dislike, but it him also. The post match delusional rambling. God, he loves the sound of his own voice. He's an arrogant, blame shifting, stab his grandmother in the back to prove a point even if wrong, narcissistic fraud. He will turn on us in a heartbeat when the chips are down. In affect he a diluted Rodger's.. and like that odious little cretin who I detest the most in football ever (yes more than Peter Taylor) they both act and exude qualities and mannerisms that find repulsive in humans. We had to suffer the sh1t under Rodgers, I personally don't want to suffer it again under this tw@t. I agree with all that! Clearly due diligence isn’t on the agenda still! How can they be so out of touch or thick!
slymunn Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 34 minutes ago, Finnegan said: The word is hubris. He's just the second coming of Brendan Rodgers which is horrifying when you consider the damage he left behind him. I'm not defending Rodgers in the slightest here, but if he was sacked 6, 9 months earlier it wouldn't have come to where we are now. I feel that was the period when the rot really started to set in.
MPH Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 2 hours ago, lanefox said: Puel is misunderstood by the majority of our fanbase He was a terrible communicator with the players and came across as aloof and arrogant to them. This was the main cause of the breakdown in relationship between them.
Saxondale Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago I’m not sure who people thought we were going to appoint, because if you thought Ancelotti was on his way, you’re probably being a bit optimistic.
AjcW Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Saxondale said: I’m not sure who people thought we were going to appoint, because if you thought Ancelotti was on his way, you’re probably being a bit optimistic. Think you'll find most people have been asking for the exact opposite to that. An end to 'names' and an end to top swinging his tiny member around showing what he can still "attract" at this level. Most have been crying out for someone with a great record at this level (Challinor) or someone unheard of from abroad with a fresh approach tactically. 2
Finnegan Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 5 minutes ago, slymunn said: I'm not defending Rodgers in the slightest here, but if he was sacked 6, 9 months earlier it wouldn't have come to where we are now. I feel that was the period when the rot really started to set in. I've said this before but no, I don't agree. Rodgers had already done the damage by that point we just didn't realise it at the time. We give our managers an enormous amount of control over our squad spend and our transfer philosophy. We let him bloat the wage bill up to 116% of our revenue on players that we had no chance of up selling for profit because his hubris thought he could "fix" "broken" players and his self-serving nature gave zero ****s for the long term health of the club. Should Topkin have done something about that and do they shoulder a share of the responsibility? Oh yeah definitely. Of course. But the point is that Rodgers' narcissism and his Dunning-Kruger estimation of his own coaching ability got us in years and years of financial crisis and decline.
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